RCA ICAN-6539 by S.S. Eaton, Micropower Crystal Oscillator

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Winfield Hill

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Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?


Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com (use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
In article <c78f69038a@drn.newsguy.com>, Winfield Hill wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?
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I have a copy of a copy. Let me know by email if you still need
it and we can work out the details. Hey, it's only 33 years old!

Joe
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Center for Advanced Microelectronics & Biomolecular Research
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Post Falls, ID 83854-5327 208-262-2001 (fax)
 
On 4 May 2004 09:08:41 -0700, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?


Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com (use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
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No, sorry. My old RCA CMOS data book has app notes numbered on both
sides of 6539 :-(

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Winfield Hill wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?
Click to expand...
Don't have that one, but I think this one covers a lot of the same
ground:
http://www.intel.com/design/mcs51/applnots/23065901.pdf

--
John Popelish
 
In article <c78f69038a@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?
Click to expand...
I think Speff used to have it. But you'll probably need
to fund an expedition across his basement. :)

--
Tony Williams.
 
On Wed, 05 May 2004 06:14:14 +0100, the renowned Tony Williams
<tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In article <c78f69038a@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?

I think Speff used to have it. But you'll probably need
to fund an expedition across his basement. :)
Click to expand...
I don't *think* so.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Joe Hass wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?

I have a copy of a copy. Let me know by email if you still need
it and we can work out the details. Hey, it's only 33 years old!

Joe
--
K. Joseph Hass
Center for Advanced Microelectronics & Biomolecular Research
721 S. Lochsa St. Suite 8 208-262-2009 (voice)
Post Falls, ID 83854-5327 208-262-2001 (fax)
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Thankfully, I just found my old original RCA publication.
Perhaps I'll make a good scan for the good of the internet.


Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com (use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote...
the renowned Tony Williams wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:
Many articles about crystal oscillators refer to an old
RCA app note, ICAN 6539, written by S.S. Eaton, titled,
"Micropower Crystal-Controlled Oscillator Design Using
RCA COS/MOS Inverters."

Does anyone out there have a copy of that app note?

I think Speff used to have it. But you'll probably need
to fund an expedition across his basement. :)

I don't *think* so.
Click to expand...
Thanks you guys, your comment inspired me to search again
in my basement, and I found my old original RCA copy!

Perhaps I'll make a scan for the good of the internet.


Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com (use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
In article <lnmh90hve8n9e9f8t9ide35h7ij0v8p4pl@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 06:14:14 +0100, the renowned Tony Williams
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I think Speff used to have it.

I don't *think* so.
Click to expand...
Vague memories of a thread on crystal oscillators where
you owned up to having one of the earliest of the RCA
COS/MOS data books.... ISTR that edition was printed with
more pages with a smaller page size. But I chucked mine
when the 1980 edition came out. :(

The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.

--
Tony Williams.
 
Tony Williams wrote...
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

the renowned Tony Williams wrote:
I think Speff used to have it.

I don't *think* so.

Vague memories of a thread on crystal oscillators where
you owned up to having one of the earliest of the RCA
COS/MOS data books.... ISTR that edition was printed with
more pages with a smaller page size. But I chucked mine
when the 1980 edition came out. :(
Click to expand...
I have a copy of RCA's 1974 databook, which has many app notes
(and references the ican-6539, as do many articles since that
time). I have this databook not because I saved it for these
last 30 years, but because I bought it on eBay a few years ago.
:>) Sadly too much of what I savored and worked with 30 to 40
years ago has long ago gone into the trash. :>(

The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.
Click to expand...
Hmm, I'll have to check if that one is in the 1974 databook.

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
On 8 May 2004 06:00:25 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Tony Williams wrote...

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

the renowned Tony Williams wrote:
I think Speff used to have it.

I don't *think* so.

Vague memories of a thread on crystal oscillators where
you owned up to having one of the earliest of the RCA
COS/MOS data books.... ISTR that edition was printed with
more pages with a smaller page size. But I chucked mine
when the 1980 edition came out. :(

I have a copy of RCA's 1974 databook, which has many app notes
(and references the ican-6539, as do many articles since that
time). I have this databook not because I saved it for these
last 30 years, but because I bought it on eBay a few years ago.
:>) Sadly too much of what I savored and worked with 30 to 40
years ago has long ago gone into the trash. :>(

The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.

Hmm, I'll have to check if that one is in the 1974 databook.
Click to expand...
*That* one I have (in the '73 databook) without descending into "the
archives". If anyone needs it, I can scan it (about a dozen pages).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote...
the renowned Winfield Hill wrote:

I have a copy of RCA's 1974 databook, which has many app notes
(and references the ican-6539, as do many articles since that
time). I have this databook not because I saved it for these
last 30 years, but because I bought it on eBay a few years ago.
:>) Sadly too much of what I savored and worked with 30 to 40
years ago has long ago gone into the trash. :>(

The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.

Hmm, I'll have to check if that one is in the 1974 databook.

*That* one I have (in the '73 databook) without descending into "the
archives". If anyone needs it, I can scan it (about a dozen pages).
Click to expand...
It's in the '74 book as well. But I think it'd be great if you
made a scan and posted it. That can be in trade for the scan I
just posted in a.b.s.e. of ICAN-6539, by S.S. Eaton, Jan. 1971,
"Micropower Crystal Oscillator Design Using RCA COS/MOS Inverters"

I'll also email a copy to anyone who wants - it's a 1.5M pdf file.

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
On 8 May 2004 11:54:51 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote...

the renowned Winfield Hill wrote:

I have a copy of RCA's 1974 databook, which has many app notes
(and references the ican-6539, as do many articles since that
time). I have this databook not because I saved it for these
last 30 years, but because I bought it on eBay a few years ago.
:>) Sadly too much of what I savored and worked with 30 to 40
years ago has long ago gone into the trash. :>(

The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.

Hmm, I'll have to check if that one is in the 1974 databook.

*That* one I have (in the '73 databook) without descending into "the
archives". If anyone needs it, I can scan it (about a dozen pages).

It's in the '74 book as well. But I think it'd be great if you
made a scan and posted it. That can be in trade for the scan I
just posted in a.b.s.e. of ICAN-6539, by S.S. Eaton, Jan. 1971,
"Micropower Crystal Oscillator Design Using RCA COS/MOS Inverters"
Click to expand...
Done & will post to abse. 1.2M

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote...
The later ICAN-6086, "Timekeeping Advances Through COS/MOS
Technology" (which refers to 6539) is also worth preserving.

Done & will post to abse. 1.2M
Click to expand...
Excellent!

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
In article <c7jadr0ihf@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

I'll also email a copy to anyone who wants - it's a 1.5M pdf
file.
Click to expand...
Yes please. My ISP only delivered two of your abse posts.

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
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Use your rowland or picovolt address please, they are
both whitelisted in my AntiSpam software.

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In article <c7jadr0ihf@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

I'll also email a copy to anyone who wants - it's a 1.5M pdf
file.

Yes please. My ISP only delivered two of your abse posts.
Click to expand...
Winfield, or someone that downloaded it ( I have not access to a.b.s.e :/ ):
Please send it to me too.
renan.birck AT ibestvip.com.br .
If this address goes over quota try triac AT m-net.arbornet.org

thanks
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Winfield Hill wrote:

I don't have access to a.b.s.e either. I have the '80 data book, and I
could be persuaded to scan an article in or two, is someone has an ftp
or web site to share them.

I'm still interested in using a 4007 as a Gilbert cell multiplier, which
some app-note describes.

BTW, a crystal supports harmonics. These modes have different
impedances. Would it be possible to prefer a mode by changing a negative
resistance value, rather than using a tuned filter? I have in mind
current-tuning a transistor to pick-out crystal harmonics. Probably an
ALC loop would be necessary also, but no LC filter?

Someone mentioned something about this in a recent thread on negative
resistance.

It's in the '74 book as well. But I think it'd be great if you
made a scan and posted it. That can be in trade for the scan I
just posted in a.b.s.e. of ICAN-6539, by S.S. Eaton, Jan. 1971,
"Micropower Crystal Oscillator Design Using RCA COS/MOS Inverters"

I'll also email a copy to anyone who wants - it's a 1.5M pdf file.

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
Click to expand...

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Chaos Master wrote...
Tony Williams, tu escreveste isto tchę?
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

I'll also email a copy to anyone who wants - it's a 1.5M pdf
file.

Yes please. My ISP only delivered two of your abse posts.

Winfield, or someone that downloaded it ( I have not access to a.b.s.e :/ ):
Please send it to me too.
Click to expand...
sent as requested, any others?

Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dot-org for now)
 
In article <c7ocle02ehh@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

sent as requested, any others?
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And received ok, thank you.

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Hey ya, Winfield Hill:

sent as requested, any others?
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Received. Thanks!!!

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Please do ROT13 to username of e-mail address: erana.ovepx@ibestvip.com.br
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