Question on phone cord connectors

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Dave

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If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave
 
On 10/16/08 6:34 AM, in article
0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica, "Dave"
<db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:

If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave
Click to expand...
The RJ series of jacks and plugs are for a Network Interface. Handset cords
and other station set equipment are left to the equipment vendors to put on
their nomenclature. The Standards bodies may have worked up a "standard" ID
for handset cords by now, but I haven't seen it.

Google "telephone handset cord"
 
Don Bowey wrote:

On 10/16/08 6:34 AM, in article
0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica, "Dave"
db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:


If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave




The RJ series of jacks and plugs are for a Network Interface. Handset cords
and other station set equipment are left to the equipment vendors to put on
their nomenclature. The Standards bodies may have worked up a "standard" ID
for handset cords by now, but I haven't seen it.

Google "telephone handset cord"

Mostly RJ10
Click to expand...
 
On 10/16/08 8:09 AM, in article gd7l4p$5pl$1@energise.enta.net, "IanM"
<Invalid@totally.invalid> wrote:

Don Bowey wrote:

On 10/16/08 6:34 AM, in article
0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica, "Dave"
db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:


If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave




The RJ series of jacks and plugs are for a Network Interface. Handset cords
and other station set equipment are left to the equipment vendors to put on
their nomenclature. The Standards bodies may have worked up a "standard" ID
for handset cords by now, but I haven't seen it.

Google "telephone handset cord"

Mostly RJ10
Click to expand...
Where does the "RJ10" code come from?
 
Don Bowey wrote:

On 10/16/08 8:09 AM, in article gd7l4p$5pl$1@energise.enta.net, "IanM"
Invalid@totally.invalid> wrote:


Don Bowey wrote:


On 10/16/08 6:34 AM, in article
0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica, "Dave"
db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:



If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave




The RJ series of jacks and plugs are for a Network Interface. Handset cords
and other station set equipment are left to the equipment vendors to put on
their nomenclature. The Standards bodies may have worked up a "standard" ID
for handset cords by now, but I haven't seen it.

Google "telephone handset cord"


Mostly RJ10


Where does the "RJ10" code come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_jack#History_and_authority
Click to expand...
is a good a point as any to start from (Usual caution to check anything
on wikipedia against authoritative sources). RJ10 is *NOT* an official
standard or the proper name for the connector as you indicated above,
but if the OP just wants to buy a couple of plugs and a crimping tool to
repair his phone its the perfect Google search term.

As to who invented the terms RJ9, RJ10 and RJ22, and when, well your
guess is as good as and probably better than mine. Back in '95 Maplin
electronics were selling them as 'FCC68 Modular Plug 4C4P' so it wasn't
common usage in the UK in the mid 90's In '86 they didn't stock them
at all. Sorry thats not a lot to go on, but I have better things to do
than dig through dusty parts catalogs.
 
On 10/16/08 9:28 AM, in article gd7pnt$e9u$1@energise.enta.net, "IanM"
<Invalid@totally.invalid> wrote:

Don Bowey wrote:

On 10/16/08 8:09 AM, in article gd7l4p$5pl$1@energise.enta.net, "IanM"
Invalid@totally.invalid> wrote:


Don Bowey wrote:


On 10/16/08 6:34 AM, in article
0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica, "Dave"
db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:



If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

Dave




The RJ series of jacks and plugs are for a Network Interface. Handset
cords
and other station set equipment are left to the equipment vendors to put on
their nomenclature. The Standards bodies may have worked up a "standard"
ID
for handset cords by now, but I haven't seen it.

Google "telephone handset cord"


Mostly RJ10


Where does the "RJ10" code come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_jack#History_and_authority
is a good a point as any to start from (Usual caution to check anything
on wikipedia against authoritative sources). RJ10 is *NOT* an official
standard or the proper name for the connector as you indicated above,
but if the OP just wants to buy a couple of plugs and a crimping tool to
repair his phone its the perfect Google search term.

As to who invented the terms RJ9, RJ10 and RJ22, and when, well your
guess is as good as and probably better than mine. Back in '95 Maplin
electronics were selling them as 'FCC68 Modular Plug 4C4P' so it wasn't
common usage in the UK in the mid 90's In '86 they didn't stock them
at all. Sorry thats not a lot to go on, but I have better things to do
than dig through dusty parts catalogs.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the link. It's better than some.

FWIW RJ does not mean Registered Jack; it means Registration Jack. An RJ is
used for Network Interfaces for services provided under the FCC mandate for
registration of customer terminal equipment.

I began working on Standards in 1986. In addition to the technical
standards, the industry via ANSI and Telecommunications Committee T1, began
working on a NI connector catalog to clarify the multitude of uses of
off-the-shelf plugs and jacks. As you know, the RJ information defines the
connector type (for example a 4-pin mini-modular) and the pin assignments
and designation of the leads crossing the interface (for example pin 2 = T
and pin 3 = R. pin 1 and 4 not used).

I believe it was around 1990, we started to define connectors in common use
that were not part of the Registration Program. Since these were typically
equipment interfaces (such as a handset interface to a telephone or an NT1
to a NT2) much of the work was passed to the TIA standards group (now ANSI
TIA). As a result there should now be Standard Jack Assignments (SJA)
defined by Committee T1 and harmonized with TIA, and others issued by TIA.
I left in 1994 so I lost track of it. The non-SJA nomenclature would permit
manufacturers to sell the same physical jack used as a Network Interface
without calling it one.

I got only three relevant Google hits for SJA connectors.
 
In article <0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica>,
Dave <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:
If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...
Click to expand...
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect. (I think the deal is that
it's only officially an RJ-series connector if it's part of the standardized
telephone system, and the handset connectors are completely up to the
whim of the manufacturer, even though there is a de facto standard.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_Jack

I added a crosspost to comp.dcom.telecom.tech; maybe someone there knows.


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Wim Lewis <wiml@hhhh.org> writes:
In article <0YWdnSr7hqtS32rVnZ2dnUVZ_sjinZ2d@posted.internetamerica>,
Dave <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:
If the connector for the phone line coming from the wall is an RJ-11, what
connector is used for the coiled cord connecting the handset to the
telephone? It seems a little smaller. Any help is appreciated...

Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.
Click to expand...
The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.
 
On 2008-10-17, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.

The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.
Click to expand...
I've seen 10way connectors the same width as 8 way ethernet ones ones (the three
I've seen were on bar-code reader cables)

would that be 8P10C or is there a special designation for under-width
connectors?

Bye.
Jasen
 
Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2008-10-17, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.

The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.

I've seen 10way connectors the same width as 8 way ethernet ones ones (the three
I've seen were on bar-code reader cables)

would that be 8P10C or is there a special designation for under-width
connectors?
Click to expand...

No. How can you have eight positions, and ten contacts? A
'position' is a place for one contact.


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Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> writes:
On 2008-10-17, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.

The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.

I've seen 10way connectors the same width as 8 way ethernet ones ones (the three
I've seen were on bar-code reader cables)

would that be 8P10C or is there a special designation for under-width
connectors?
Click to expand...
No, it would be 10p10c modular connectors.

They can be a touch wider than 8p8c jacks as well, but not enough to
account for the "extra" 2 connector pins.
 
On 2008-10-17, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2008-10-17, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.

The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.

I've seen 10way connectors the same width as 8 way ethernet ones ones (the three
I've seen were on bar-code reader cables)

would that be 8P10C or is there a special designation for under-width
connectors?

No. How can you have eight positions, and ten contacts? A
'position' is a place for one contact.
Click to expand...
the plug is the same width as that used for twisted pair ethernet, what is
commonly called "RJ45" or 8P8C, but it has 10 contacts.

http://www.l-com.com/product_images/detail/lg_TDR10P10C.jpg
vs
http://www.l-com.com/product_images/detail/lg_TD8P8C.jpg



Bye.
Jasen
 
Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2008-10-17, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2008-10-17, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote:
Wikipedia says that it's commonly referred to as an RJ9, RJ10, or RJ22,
but it also says that those names are incorrect.

The most correct name for the handset connector is a 4p4c modular plug/jack.

Just like a phone line connector is a 6p2c modular jack (or 6p4c sometimes).

And an Ethernet jack is an 8p8c modular jack.

ie. x position, y connector.

I've seen 10way connectors the same width as 8 way ethernet ones ones (the three
I've seen were on bar-code reader cables)

would that be 8P10C or is there a special designation for under-width
connectors?

No. How can you have eight positions, and ten contacts? A
'position' is a place for one contact.

the plug is the same width as that used for twisted pair ethernet, what is
commonly called "RJ45" or 8P8C, but it has 10 contacts.

http://www.l-com.com/product_images/detail/lg_TDR10P10C.jpg
vs
http://www.l-com.com/product_images/detail/lg_TD8P8C.jpg
Click to expand...

The width of the housing has nothing to do with the designation. It
could be three feet wide, and still only have ten postions.


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