Question again on the setup files (.cdsinit, .cdsenv...)

[Jay Smith]

Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

 

[Partha]

When the Cadence software loads, it reads the site-specific settings
first and individual settings last, so your settings override the
others. Specifically, files are loaded in the following sequence:

..Xdefaults
..cdsenv
..cdsinit

.cdsenv settings can be overriden by .cdsinit by the following,

envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

For example:
envSetVal( "spectreSVerilog.envOpts" "mspNetlistMode" 'string
"Hierarchical" )


In a broader sense for Cadence tool specific defaults use .cdsenv & to
set shell variables and other skill customizations use .cdsinit

Tool customizations in .cdsinit)
envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

Shell variablesin .cdsinit)

setShellEnvVar("Environment variable=value")


Tool customizations in .cdsenv)
tool.partition varName 'varType value



mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404131240.57ab13fd@posting.google.com>...

Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

 

[Andrew Beckett]

Jay,

On 13 Apr 2004 13:40:37 -0700, mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote:

Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

Ah, I didn't make that clear. The .cdsinit stops searching - the .cdsenv doesn't - it
merges them all together, and the latest loaded overrides the previous ones.

However, if the .cdsinit keeps searching, it's because there's some code in
the .cdsinit before it which keeps looking.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

No, .cdsenv is loaded first. However, by default it doesn't look in the

working directory for .cdsenv file (this can be enabled using the
CDS_LOAD_ENV UNIX env var), so an alternative is to load it
using the envLoadFile() function like you said.

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

..cdsinit is SKILL. SKILL is a full featured programming language, and
is very flexible indeed.

..cdsenv is it's own syntax - it's a simple:

tool[.partition] varName type value

Neither are spectre syntax. spectre is a simulator, and has its own syntax.

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

Regards,

Andrew.

--
Andrew Beckett
Senior Technical Leader
Custom IC Solutions
Cadence Design Systems Ltd

 

[Jay Smith]

So .cdsinit uses Unix shell syntax. .cdsenv uses SKILL syntax? Thanks!

cadeguy@yahoo.com (Partha) wrote in message news:<7f58031f.0404131809.6cb54978@posting.google.com>...

When the Cadence software loads, it reads the site-specific settings
first and individual settings last, so your settings override the
others. Specifically, files are loaded in the following sequence:

.Xdefaults
.cdsenv
.cdsinit

.cdsenv settings can be overriden by .cdsinit by the following,

envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

For example:
envSetVal( "spectreSVerilog.envOpts" "mspNetlistMode" 'string
"Hierarchical" )


In a broader sense for Cadence tool specific defaults use .cdsenv & to
set shell variables and other skill customizations use .cdsinit

Tool customizations in .cdsinit)
envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

Shell variablesin .cdsinit)

setShellEnvVar("Environment variable=value")


Tool customizations in .cdsenv)
tool.partition varName 'varType value



mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404131240.57ab13fd@posting.google.com>...
Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

 

[Andrew Beckett]

No, .cdsinit does NOT use UNIX shell syntax. Partha's reply was misleading.

The purpose of the .cdsinit file is not to set UNIX shell environment variables - although you
can do that there (in some cases; sometimes it will be too late to set it in the .cdsinit
file). As you can see, you have to use a SKILL function to set a UNIX env var.

Also, .cdsenv is NOT SKILL Syntax. You can set cdsenv variables in the .cdsinit
using SKILL syntax, but the .cdsenv file is in .cdsenv syntax (see my other append on
this).

Andrew.

On 13 Apr 2004 23:37:43 -0700, mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote:

So .cdsinit uses Unix shell syntax. .cdsenv uses SKILL syntax? Thanks!

cadeguy@yahoo.com (Partha) wrote in message news:<7f58031f.0404131809.6cb54978@posting.google.com>...
When the Cadence software loads, it reads the site-specific settings
first and individual settings last, so your settings override the
others. Specifically, files are loaded in the following sequence:

.Xdefaults
.cdsenv
.cdsinit

.cdsenv settings can be overriden by .cdsinit by the following,

envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

For example:
envSetVal( "spectreSVerilog.envOpts" "mspNetlistMode" 'string
"Hierarchical" )


In a broader sense for Cadence tool specific defaults use .cdsenv & to
set shell variables and other skill customizations use .cdsinit

Tool customizations in .cdsinit)
envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

Shell variablesin .cdsinit)

setShellEnvVar("Environment variable=value")


Tool customizations in .cdsenv)
tool.partition varName 'varType value



mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404131240.57ab13fd@posting.google.com>...
Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

--
Andrew Beckett
Senior Technical Leader
Custom IC Solutions
Cadence Design Systems Ltd

 

[Partha]

Oops I did not mean that..


mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404132237.2fc67c9@posting.google.com>...

So .cdsinit uses Unix shell syntax. .cdsenv uses SKILL syntax? Thanks!

cadeguy@yahoo.com (Partha) wrote in message news:<7f58031f.0404131809.6cb54978@posting.google.com>...
When the Cadence software loads, it reads the site-specific settings
first and individual settings last, so your settings override the
others. Specifically, files are loaded in the following sequence:

.Xdefaults
.cdsenv
.cdsinit

.cdsenv settings can be overriden by .cdsinit by the following,

envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

For example:
envSetVal( "spectreSVerilog.envOpts" "mspNetlistMode" 'string
"Hierarchical" )


In a broader sense for Cadence tool specific defaults use .cdsenv & to
set shell variables and other skill customizations use .cdsinit

Tool customizations in .cdsinit)
envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

Shell variablesin .cdsinit)

setShellEnvVar("Environment variable=value")


Tool customizations in .cdsenv)
tool.partition varName 'varType value



mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404131240.57ab13fd@posting.google.com>...
Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay

 

[Pete nospam Zakel]

In article <35c9712a.0404132237.2fc67c9@posting.google.com> mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) writes:

So .cdsinit uses Unix shell syntax. .cdsenv uses SKILL syntax? Thanks!

No, .cdsinit is interpreted by the Skill interpreter, so it should contain
Skill commands.

..cdsenv is a list of variables and values using a predefined syntax, but uses
Skill to parse the values, etc.

And ~/.Xdefaults is read by the X initialization code, but ONLY if no X
Resource DataBase has been attached to the display (typically by using the xrdb
command, and most default X startup scripts do this by default). Note also
that on some systems the the filename containing the resources my not be
".Xdefaults", but a different name. In most cases, though, the name is
".Xdefaults".

-Pete Zakel
(phz@seeheader.nospam)

"Black cat, yellow cat, as long as it catches mice it is a good cat."

-Chinese Proverb

cadeguy@yahoo.com (Partha) wrote in message news:<7f58031f.0404131809.6cb54978@posting.google.com>...
When the Cadence software loads, it reads the site-specific settings
first and individual settings last, so your settings override the
others. Specifically, files are loaded in the following sequence:

.Xdefaults
.cdsenv
.cdsinit

.cdsenv settings can be overriden by .cdsinit by the following,

envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

For example:
envSetVal( "spectreSVerilog.envOpts" "mspNetlistMode" 'string
"Hierarchical" )


In a broader sense for Cadence tool specific defaults use .cdsenv & to
set shell variables and other skill customizations use .cdsinit

Tool customizations in .cdsinit)
envSetVal( "tool.partition" "varName" 'varType value )

Shell variablesin .cdsinit)

setShellEnvVar("Environment variable=value")


Tool customizations in .cdsenv)
tool.partition varName 'varType value



mail9900@yahoo.com (Jay Smith) wrote in message news:<35c9712a.0404131240.57ab13fd@posting.google.com>...
Andrew (and all),

1. Referring your answer in my previous thread, you said "as soon as
one is found, it stops searching...". However, as I learnd from
Cadence's manual and my personal experience, looks like Cadence will
keep searching the .cdsinit and .cdsenv according to the sequence:
site - ./ - home
Otherwise users can't customrize their preference. I also found that,
even if the .cdsenv file was deleted from user's home directory, icfb
(or whatever) will automatically creat one.

2. Is .cdsinit loaded before .cdsenv? In my .cdsinit, there's a SKILL
(?) function: envLoadFile("./.cdsenv")

3. What is the syntax used in .cdsinit and/or .cdsenv? Is that Spectre
syntax?

Sorry for throwing you so many questions.

Jay