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If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularlyAs mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
you don't return you kiddie fiddler"David L. Jerkoff"
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
** Must be another " Bermuda Triangle" type of thing.
Maybe we ought to call it the " Carnarvon Pentangle " or some such.
The HMAS Sydney went done there, with all hands, back in 1941,
you know .....
Perhaps you might try personal exploration in person philthy , we hope
..... Phil
What's the HEH base ? And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
Having lived in Carnarvon, I can believe anything of the place. After"David L. Jerkoff"
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
** Must be another " Bermuda Triangle" type of thing.
Maybe we ought to call it the " Carnarvon Pentangle " or some such.
The HMAS Sydney went done there, with all hands, back in 1941,
you know .....
A Yanky submarine comms base:rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
Giant octopus, aliens, or those pesky Krauts you think?"David L. Jones"
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
** Must be another " Bermuda Triangle" type of thing.
Maybe we ought to call it the " Carnarvon Pentangle " or some such.
The HMAS Sydney went done there, with all hands, back in 1941,
you know .....
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.On Jan 3, 7:34 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's releaseA Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
Where's Tom Moffat when you need him. He was pretty good at coming upOn Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:37:45 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com
wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
Sadly, he's gone:On Jan 2, 9:35 pm, rebel <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:37:45 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com
wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
Where's Tom Moffat when you need him.
Thanks. I did find it eventually by using google.com.au.Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
I'm intruiged though. It's low frequency. 30kHz IIRC. I wouldn't normally expectAnd have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
You mean the antenna's nowhere near the base ?"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's release
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2009/release/2009_01.aspx
as 350NM S of Learmonth. From memory that is about 40k south of HEH, so that's
about 690km as the crow flies from the plane to the antenna array.
stations is very low indeed, despite their large size. The HEH Tx is about"David L. Jones" wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be
particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and
irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
Thanks. I did find it eventually by using google.com.au.
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
I'm intruiged though. It's low frequency. 30kHz IIRC. I wouldn't normally
expect
that to upset computer systems. The wavelength's too long. And I'd expect
the
airframe to be a good EMC shield at that frequency. But you never know.
Hmmm ... how
much of the A330 body is composites instead of aluminium alloy ?
Graham
Add to that the fact that the radiation resistance of the antennas at those
The antenna array is adjacent the base (at Exmouth), which is ~40km fromrebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's release
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2009/release/2009_01.aspx
as 350NM S of Learmonth. From memory that is about 40k south of HEH, so that's
about 690km as the crow flies from the plane to the antenna array.
You mean the antenna's nowhere near the base ?
The Exmouth base transmits at Very Low Frequencies. Only an uneducatedOn Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:20:45 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's release
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2009/release/2009_01.aspx
as 350NM S of Learmonth. From memory that is about 40k south of HEH, so that's
about 690km as the crow flies from the plane to the antenna array.
You mean the antenna's nowhere near the base ?
The antenna array is adjacent the base (at Exmouth), which is ~40km from
Learmonth.
It beggars belief that even the most poorly trained designer would leave anOn Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:37:22 +0900, Davo <Dave@gmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:20:45 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be
particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and
irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's release
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2009/release/2009_01.aspx
as 350NM S of Learmonth. From memory that is about 40k south of HEH,
so that's
about 690km as the crow flies from the plane to the antenna array.
You mean the antenna's nowhere near the base ?
The antenna array is adjacent the base (at Exmouth), which is ~40km from
Learmonth.
The Exmouth base transmits at Very Low Frequencies. Only an uneducated
or uninformed person would believe it could interfere with a planes
controls.
Not necessarily the case. Shielding of the electronics by the aircraft
skin and
frame will be less effective at VLF frequencies, so while I am rather
sceptical
that HEH is the trigger (more on the basis of distance and power levels) I
would
never say never.
Besides, we also have to look at the "French factor". Remember the air
show
crash (different Airbus model) where the software decided to land when the
pilot
clearly had other plans for his day? Some say French logic is an
oxymoron.
Not necessarily the case. Shielding of the electronics by the aircraft skin andrebel wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:20:45 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
rebel wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned a few months back, something strange is going on with
Qantas planes and WA, and it's happening again:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,24864822-2761,00.html
This is getting spooky.
If the HEH base is the cause, then them thar Airbussen must be particularly
sensitive. All sorts of aircraft use Learmonth on a regular (and irregular)
basis without having these hiccups.
What's the HEH base ?
US NavComSta Harold E Holt.
A Yanky submarine comms base:
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/P7220512.JPG
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/exmouth.htm
And have these incidents been in its vicinity ?
200km, near enough for the Authorities to at least consider it:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24650057-948,00.html
The latest incident was cited by ATSB's release
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2009/release/2009_01.aspx
as 350NM S of Learmonth. From memory that is about 40k south of HEH, so that's
about 690km as the crow flies from the plane to the antenna array.
You mean the antenna's nowhere near the base ?
The antenna array is adjacent the base (at Exmouth), which is ~40km from
Learmonth.
The Exmouth base transmits at Very Low Frequencies. Only an uneducated
or uninformed person would believe it could interfere with a planes
controls.
Ad an experienced person would be having a quiet chuckle at yourThe Exmouth base transmits at Very Low Frequencies. Only an uneducated
or uninformed person would believe it could interfere with a planes
controls.
Does it? Modern management technique is to regard any employee as "hireIt beggars belief that even the most poorly trained designer would leave an
aircraft's controls susceptible to radio fields when we have so many of
them, natural (eg lightning) and unnatural (such as the various facilities
discussed).