Python tutorial

[George Herold]

Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.

 

[John S]

On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:

Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.

Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:

On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 6:28:25 PM UTC-5, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much

John S, this is about the right speed for me.
https://www.learnpython.org/

GH

 

[Mark F.]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-8, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much

I learned the tough way 15 years ago: diving in and implementing a National Instruments DAQ interface (I refuse to learn Labview). Installed packages as I discovered I needed them. Learning syntax on the fly (and with the book "Python Cookbook").
Later, pythonXY appeared, with most of the packages an engineer needs pre-installed. More recently, I installed the Anaconda package. Included is Jupyter Notebook, which allows hacking code in your browser. Great way to experiment with code snippets.

Python for Engineers (www.pythonforengineers.com) looks promising.

-Mark

 

[Ingvald44]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:31:56 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.

MIT hosted some online courses for a while. I ran through them and
got good eonugh to write text programs. The GUI stuff is a lot
harder.

 

[John S]

On 1/15/2020 6:26 PM, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 6:28:25 PM UTC-5, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much

John S, this is about the right speed for me.
https://www.learnpython.org/

GH

Thanks, George. Great link.

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 9:10:44 PM UTC-5, Mark F. wrote:

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-8, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much
I learned the tough way 15 years ago: diving in and implementing a National Instruments DAQ interface (I refuse to learn Labview). Installed packages as I discovered I needed them. Learning syntax on the fly (and with the book "Python Cookbook").
Later, pythonXY appeared, with most of the packages an engineer needs pre-installed. More recently, I installed the Anaconda package. Included is Jupyter Notebook, which allows hacking code in your browser. Great way to experiment with code snippets.

Python for Engineers (www.pythonforengineers.com) looks promising.

-Mark

Thanks Mark, I agree about labview*. So you always run it with one of
these add-on libraries (packages) Anaconda, Numpy, etc.?

Say does anaconda (or others) help you make graphs and such?

Thanks again... (oh for others python XY seems to be only for python2.x
and not the later 3.x release.)

George H.


*I knew a tiny bit of labview years ago.. the entire
Vanderbilt FEL ran under labview... majorlab view updates could
lead to ~six months of code rewrite.

 

[Mark F.]

On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 7:05:13 AM UTC-8, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 9:10:44 PM UTC-5, Mark F. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-8, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:42 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 1/15/2020 4:31 PM, George Herold wrote:
Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.


Hi, George -

About 20 or so years ago I learned the rudiments of Python. I want to
re-learn. Is 'learn python the hard way' a book or an online source?

Have you looked at online tutorials?

JohnS

Forget 'learn python the hard way' it's a book with the first few chapters
online. But much to simple for me.

There is a fire hose of online tutorials... how to choose?
I'd try an online course too... if anyone knows a good one.

I've got a big thick book I bought a few years ago, "learning python",
but 1500 pages. I could dive into that again.

George H.
pages it's too much
I learned the tough way 15 years ago: diving in and implementing a National Instruments DAQ interface (I refuse to learn Labview). Installed packages as I discovered I needed them. Learning syntax on the fly (and with the book "Python Cookbook").
Later, pythonXY appeared, with most of the packages an engineer needs pre-installed. More recently, I installed the Anaconda package. Included is Jupyter Notebook, which allows hacking code in your browser. Great way to experiment with code snippets.

Python for Engineers (www.pythonforengineers.com) looks promising.

-Mark

Thanks Mark, I agree about labview*. So you always run it with one of
these add-on libraries (packages) Anaconda, Numpy, etc.?

Say does anaconda (or others) help you make graphs and such?

Thanks again... (oh for others python XY seems to be only for python2.x
and not the later 3.x release.)

George H.


*I knew a tiny bit of labview years ago.. the entire
Vanderbilt FEL ran under labview... majorlab view updates could
lead to ~six months of code rewrite.
Much of python's usefulness is through these libraries (many of which appear to be created by graduate students -- free labor). For plotting, the matplotlib package is most common. Not straightforward to use, bet there are many examples of graphs you can adapt to your particular wants. If you are particular about formatting, that can lead you down the rabbit hole of stackoverflow.com.

-Mark

 

[mkr5000]

I didn't know anything about Python and a few years ago ended up writing 3000 lines of code for a product. It's a great language -- just get your head around "classes" and here's is a guy that has the best tutorials on youtube--
his user name is thenewboston excellent videos from beginner to advanced

 

[George Herold]

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-5, mkr5000 wrote:

I didn't know anything about Python and a few years ago ended up writing 3000 lines of code for a product. It's a great language -- just get your head around "classes" and here's is a guy that has the best tutorials on youtube--
his user name is thenewboston excellent videos from beginner to advanced

Thanks I'll give it a look see. (mostly I'd rather have text and stuff
and not a video.)

George H.

 

[JM]

On 15/01/2020 22:31, George Herold wrote:

Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.

Another think I forgot to mention - jetbrains have a community edition
of PyCharm (an IDE) which is nice. Unfortunately it's a Java app so it
needs decent hardware to run on.

 

[JM]

On 15/01/2020 22:31, George Herold wrote:

Hi all, any python users? I wanted to dive into python...
I started 'learn python the hard way', but it was much to easy.
So I'm looking for something more advanced... any suggestions?
(And do python users use all these 'add-ons' like numpy and
anaconda?)

Thx,
George H.

I used Python (for the first time in about 15 years) last year (just as
a change from C++) to write a user interface to some custom built
hardware. I found Programming in Python 3 (Summerfield - Developer's
Library) to be pretty good, as was The Python 3 Standard Library
(Hellman) by the same publisher. I'd read Summerfields books on Qt
previously and quite liked his approach.

If you're intending to do graphical interfaces I'd recommend PySide2
which is a python wrapper to Qt. You can then use the Qt WYSIWYG tools
to build your Gui's. Summerfield also has a book on PyQt (basically the
same as PySide but different licensing) which I recommend.

Regarding the packages available, they are really the main reason for
learning Python. It's pretty much the language of choice for
manipulating data so there are a wealth of interesting packages available.

Apart from the books mentioned you can't go far wrong with anything by
the Developer's Library, No Starch Press, O'Reilly or Apress. (Packt
publishing have a ton of books on python but I'd stay clear of anything
published by them.)