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I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.
 
In article <921df43.0312272252.630c3150@posting.google.com>,
bruceam@swbell.net mentioned...
I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.
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I suggest you use a 555, which is well documented and designed to
overcome the limitations of UJTs etc. Did you ever wonder why you
don't see these UJTs and PUTs used anymore? Well..


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b.a. marcus[bruceam@swbell.net] said this in sci.electronics.components, at 27 Dec
2003 22:52:06 -0800, in article <921df43.0312272252.630c3150@posting.google.com>.
I can prove it. And thus I reply:

I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.
Click to expand...
Use a 555 timer, that is far more "advanced" and "modern" than PUT's. There's a
LOT of info on the 555 timer on the Internet. Just type "555 timer" on Google.
The timer will be far more useful than a PUT in new projects.

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In article <921df43.0312272252.630c3150@posting.google.com>,
b.a. marcus <bruceam@swbell.net> wrote:
I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.
Click to expand...
Wow, talk about non-answers.

The first problem is that NTE is just a parts reseller for the hobby
and service market so they probably won't have anything more than
a skeleton datasheet. So the task is to reverse lookup that part.

That wasn't too hard, as there aren't very many types of PUT.
So I found some Motorola PUT numbers, 2N6027 and 2N6028.
Both cross to NTE6402.

Ok, so whatever part of Motorola who makes PUTs, (if they still
make them), probably has the application notes, online, that they
included in their 1988 Thyristor Databook.

Try On Semiconductor, first, they are the spinoff that make?/sell most
of the non-RF discrete parts that used to labeled Motorola. Most likely
as a big PDF file. Get it, you'll also learn a whole lot about SCRs
and Triacs, too.

Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com Washington State resident
 
Chaos Master <I.DESPISE.SPAMMERS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a591af33e0e11e89898cc@news.cis.dfn.de>...
said this in sci.electronics.components, at 27 Dec
2003 22:52:06 -0800, in article <921df43.0312272252.630c3150@posting.google.com>.
I can prove it. And thus I reply:

I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.

Use a 555 timer, that is far more "advanced" and "modern" than PUT's. There's a
LOT of info on the 555 timer on the Internet. Just type "555 timer" on Google.
The timer will be far more useful than a PUT in new projects.
Click to expand...
Well that doesn't answer my question. But thanks for trying.
I have used the 555 in this circuit and it makes the design bigger and
consumes more power. UJT or PUT is the way to go in this anolog
design. I have extended battery life by at least %100 by using the
PUT. I can slim the PCB by 1/2" or more. Also, with a PUT you don't
have to use an electrolytic capacitor. I am using a .05mf ceramic in
this "non-precision" application. A x555 is overkill in this circuit.
Thats my opinion.
 
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I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.
Click to expand...
Marcus,

Where did you find the datasheet?

petrus


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I've been experimenting with a relaxation oscillator using an NTE6402
(basic PUT). I've been searching the net looking for information to
predict the oscillation time but the datasheets I have found are meant
for professionals. I (a hobbiest) need some information detailing the
math involved in calculating values for C, R, R1, R2 for a given
frequency. I can get oscillation for the time period I desire (4-10
Hz.) on a protoboard, but I need to be able to document calculations.
Can someone direct me to a URL for a tutorial. Or even suggest a hard
copy publication.

Marcus,

Where did you find the datasheet?

petrus


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I found several data sheets on PUT and a few good example of how to
use it.
http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/2N6027-D.PDF
http://www.du.edu/%7Eetuttle/electron/elect10.htm

I guess my math skills aren't what they used to be. The information is
there but I can't hash it out.

Anyway, I'm considering going to TTL for this device. It'll be my
first TTL project. But I will publish the current schematics soon.
 
Yeah, don't you love all of the free advice you get sometimes.

On is where I found the Data/application sheet. It is pretty good actually.
I just need to sit down with pen and paper and work it out.

Thanks for the suggestions.

B.A. Marcus

Wow, talk about non-answers.

The first problem is that NTE is just a parts reseller for the hobby
and service market so they probably won't have anything more than
a skeleton datasheet. So the task is to reverse lookup that part.

That wasn't too hard, as there aren't very many types of PUT.
So I found some Motorola PUT numbers, 2N6027 and 2N6028.
Both cross to NTE6402.

Ok, so whatever part of Motorola who makes PUTs, (if they still
make them), probably has the application notes, online, that they
included in their 1988 Thyristor Databook.

Try On Semiconductor, first, they are the spinoff that make?/sell most
of the non-RF discrete parts that used to labeled Motorola. Most likely
as a big PDF file. Get it, you'll also learn a whole lot about SCRs
and Triacs, too.

Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com Washington State resident
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bruceam@swbell.net (b.a. marcus) wrote:
Yeah, don't you love all of the free advice you get sometimes.
Click to expand...
You shouldn't top post.

And a happy new year,

Tim

On is where I found the Data/application sheet. It is pretty good actually.
I just need to sit down with pen and paper and work it out.

Thanks for the suggestions.

B.A. Marcus

Wow, talk about non-answers.

The first problem is that NTE is just a parts reseller for the hobby
and service market so they probably won't have anything more than
a skeleton datasheet. So the task is to reverse lookup that part.

That wasn't too hard, as there aren't very many types of PUT.
So I found some Motorola PUT numbers, 2N6027 and 2N6028.
Both cross to NTE6402.

Ok, so whatever part of Motorola who makes PUTs, (if they still
make them), probably has the application notes, online, that they
included in their 1988 Thyristor Databook.

Try On Semiconductor, first, they are the spinoff that make?/sell most
of the non-RF discrete parts that used to labeled Motorola. Most likely
as a big PDF file. Get it, you'll also learn a whole lot about SCRs
and Triacs, too.

Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com Washington State resident
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