PSpice Schematics User ???

[Jim Thompson]

If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that Cadence
and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics at the 10.05
Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

I urge you to contact Cadence and/or EMA-EDA to voice your concerns.

(If you wish to E-mail me, please go to my website to obtain the
current white-listed address.)

...Jim Thompson
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[Ken Smith]

In article <irkre01k9alhpk18b6kbv58becviva9tj7@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that Cadence
and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics at the 10.05
Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

You could use LTSpice instead.

Since it outputs a netlist I've been thinking about making a script to
convert its netlist output to PADS-2K format. This is mostly just for the
fun of it.

I still use the Orcad DOS-386 schematic capture. It does everything I
want done in creating schematics for making boards from.

I tried using the Windows Capture program on one project. It refused to
let me add another sheet to the design until I exited the program and
restarted it. Later on, it cleverly rewired my circuit putting a wire
between every posible node pair. It is real junk software.

BTW: I also tried to layout a board with the Orcad PCB-386 once. What a
nightmare that program was. I ended up sending the job out and abandoning
the work I'd done.

Ever since Cadence bought Orcad, their decline has become a power dive.

Rant ... Rant ... Rant


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[Kevin Aylward]

Jim Thompson wrote:

If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that Cadence
and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics at the 10.05
Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

I urge you to contact Cadence and/or EMA-EDA to voice your concerns.

Why?

Resistance is futile.

It makes no real business sense for a company to continue to support two
products like this. they aint goanna change their mind on this one

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 03:28:49 +0000 (UTC), Ken Smith
<kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:

In article <irkre01k9alhpk18b6kbv58becviva9tj7@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that Cadence
and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics at the 10.05
Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

You could use LTSpice instead.

Since it outputs a netlist I've been thinking about making a script to

My fall-back position is a PSpice look-alike that will soon be to the
market. But everything, no matter look-alike, has a learning curve.

LTSpice is not general enough nor robust enough for my needs... I earn
my living with PSpice.

[snip]

Ever since Cadence bought Orcad, their decline has become a power dive.

Rant ... Rant ... Rant

OrCAD was crap long before Cadence got involved. I used OrCAD under
DOS. When they tried to make their own windows-like version it went
straight downhill, and **never** recovered.

You'd think, since they bought MicroSim, that they would learn what a
user-friendly schematic tool really looks like, and incorporate those
features into Capture... not a chance... that company must have the
highest degree of NIH known to man :-(

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Joerg]

Hi Jim,

It is pretty doubtful that even dozens of complaints will make them revoke that kind of biz decision. I don't remember any case where that was the case, except maybe automotive where customers were able to cajole manufacturers to continue a line for a few more years. But it almost has to involve the press, so in this case you'd have to get it into EEDesign.

Other than that it's back to things like DOS OrCAD. That was the most reliable CAD tool I ever used and I might dust mine off and start again. Another option may be Eagle but that's Windows based and the parts editor is not so easy to use in my view. But that program allows you to generate scripts that can do all kinds of stuff, even spit out a netlists modified to whatever Spice wants. Sometimes others write these scripts and then post them on the Cadsoft server. Pretty nice.


Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <1pbte0hrn4rr9fgbteqn87ufgj7ceqq0he@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
[...]

OrCAD was crap long before Cadence got involved. I used OrCAD under
DOS.

The non-386 version of Draft did everything needed and was fairly easy to
learn. The only really weird thing was that the quit menu was where you
saved your file etc.

The 386 version of draft could and did use more memory. Other than that
it was the same.

When they tried to make their own windows-like version it went
straight downhill, and **never** recovered.

I'd always pictured it as a death spiral.

I think their idea for the macros in the Windows version is really
cute. You can hook in any visual basic program you care to write so long
as it interfaces to their stuff just right. If I wanted to write my own
program, I'd write my own. Give me back the simple key press recording
please.

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[Kevin Aylward]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 03:28:49 +0000 (UTC), Ken Smith
kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:

In article <irkre01k9alhpk18b6kbv58becviva9tj7@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that
Cadence and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics
at the 10.05 Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

You could use LTSpice instead.

Since it outputs a netlist I've been thinking about making a script
to

My fall-back position is a PSpice look-alike that will soon be to the
market. But everything, no matter look-alike, has a learning curve.

I still use Word 7.0. In 20 years time, why would I want to upgrade?

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

 

[JeffM]

I still use Word 7.0. In 20 years time, why would I want to upgrade?
Kevin Aylward

Do you have occasion to deal with received attachments
that are formatted with a version later than that?
What is your technique then?

 

[Kevin Aylward]

JeffM wrote:

I still use Word 7.0. In 20 years time, why would I want to upgrade?
Kevin Aylward

Do you have occasion to deal with received attachments
that are formatted with a version later than that?

I never get them.

What is your technique then?

I think readers are available, anyway, the sender can convert to text!

Its a law of diminishing returns. Like, modern music keyboards have
perfect piano, brass, guitar sounds etc, new stuff just adds redundant
waffle.

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

 

[Nico Coesel]

Ken Smith <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:

In article <irkre01k9alhpk18b6kbv58becviva9tj7@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
If you are a PSpice Schematics User you need to be aware that Cadence
and EMA-EDA will discontinue support of PSpice Schematics at the 10.05
Release.

You will then be forced to use (gag me with a spoon) OrCAD Capture.

You could use LTSpice instead.

Since it outputs a netlist I've been thinking about making a script to
convert its netlist output to PADS-2K format. This is mostly just for the
fun of it.

I still use the Orcad DOS-386 schematic capture. It does everything I
want done in creating schematics for making boards from.

I tried using the Windows Capture program on one project. It refused to
let me add another sheet to the design until I exited the program and
restarted it. Later on, it cleverly rewired my circuit putting a wire
between every posible node pair. It is real junk software.

You should try it again. I'm very pleased with version 9.1 especially
with the CIS option. But, you should run it on an NT based Windows
(not 98, ME, etc) and good quality PC hardware.

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[Ken Smith]

In article <40f0ee07.218340446@news.planet.nl>,
Nico Coesel <nico@puntnl.niks> wrote:

Ken Smith <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:
[... panning Orcad's Capture ...]

You should try it again. I'm very pleased with version 9.1 especially
with the CIS option. But, you should run it on an NT based Windows
(not 98, ME, etc) and good quality PC hardware.

Perhaps your standards are too low.

Have you ever tried the DOS Draft program? I find it far far easier to
use than Capture. You use your left hand to poke keys on the keyboard
while your right hand moves the cursor. It has an auto-pan feature and
macros which were left out of the Windows one I tried. It also doesn't
require a special PC with a special OS to run. It will run in a DOS
window under everything but perhaps XP. I only exclude XP because I
haven't tried it.

BTW: DOS Orcad will also run quite nicely under Linux. So I can install
my own copy at home and work at home or at work with the same user
interface.

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[Bob Penoyer]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:55:22 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My fall-back position is a PSpice look-alike that will soon be to the
market.

What is it? When is it due out? Expected cost?

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:11:43 GMT, Bob Penoyer
<rpenoyer@NOSPAMieee.org> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:55:22 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My fall-back position is a PSpice look-alike that will soon be to the
market.

What is it? When is it due out? Expected cost?

I believe they're going public next week... at least that's when I'm
to receive a "production" version.

I have to remain silent on who-what-where-when, until they make their
announcement.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Bob Penoyer]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:47:35 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:11:43 GMT, Bob Penoyer
rpenoyer@NOSPAMieee.org> wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:55:22 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My fall-back position is a PSpice look-alike that will soon be to the
market.

What is it? When is it due out? Expected cost?

I believe they're going public next week... at least that's when I'm
to receive a "production" version.

I have to remain silent on who-what-where-when, until they make their
announcement.

Okay. Please post some info when you can.