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Danny

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how do i get a circuit into the 'simulation hierarchy'...if it isn't.

many thx

Danny
 
What I had was every schematic page had its own SCHEMATIC subdirectory.
Only 1 of which can be a ROOT subdirectory. What I've done now is put
all my schematics in the 1 root subdirectory and everything simulates
OK. the only downside is that i can only have 1 R1, L1 etc etc and the
next schematic in the same root must start with a R2 or an Rn where n
is 1 greater than the previous schematic page. is there any way of
organising my schematic pages to get around this. i.e my project is a
new test truck HV2 (high voltage 2) which i've named the .opj file
hv2.opj, ditto the hv2.dsn file. then I want an number of different
rectifier circuits that I'm experimenting with......that's what I want
to do.

many thx in advance

Danny
 
On 18 Dec 2005 13:48:08 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:

What I had was every schematic page had its own SCHEMATIC subdirectory.
Only 1 of which can be a ROOT subdirectory. What I've done now is put
all my schematics in the 1 root subdirectory and everything simulates
OK. the only downside is that i can only have 1 R1, L1 etc etc and the
next schematic in the same root must start with a R2 or an Rn where n
is 1 greater than the previous schematic page. is there any way of
organising my schematic pages to get around this. i.e my project is a
new test truck HV2 (high voltage 2) which i've named the .opj file
hv2.opj, ditto the hv2.dsn file. then I want an number of different
rectifier circuits that I'm experimenting with......that's what I want
to do.

many thx in advance

Danny
Which tool are you using for schematic entry, PSpice Schematics or
OrCAD Capture?

If you are doing the _hierarchy_ correctly you shouldn't have any
component designator issues.

However "page-to-page" of a _single_ schematic requires consistent
designators.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Thx, Jim.
I'm using OrCAD Capture

What I've now done is put all my schematic pages into 1 root (/)
subdirectory. Then for the 1st schematic page I've called every
component X11, X12, X13 etc etc.....then the next schematic page I've
called the components X21, X22, X23 etc. The only downside now is that
when I save a schematic page it asks me if i want to save ALL the
schematic pages, to which I have no choice but to click yes OR
cancel...so I click 'yes' and it saves the lot.....again! there must be
a better way that I'm missing....

'doing_the _hierarchy_correctly'.......now I think that's where I'm
messing up. I'd really appreciate a few pointers on this.

Thx again,

Danny
 
On 18 Dec 2005 15:00:18 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:

Thx, Jim.
I'm using OrCAD Capture

What I've now done is put all my schematic pages into 1 root (/)
subdirectory. Then for the 1st schematic page I've called every
component X11, X12, X13 etc etc.....then the next schematic page I've
called the components X21, X22, X23 etc. The only downside now is that
when I save a schematic page it asks me if i want to save ALL the
schematic pages, to which I have no choice but to click yes OR
cancel...so I click 'yes' and it saves the lot.....again! there must be
a better way that I'm missing....

'doing_the _hierarchy_correctly'.......now I think that's where I'm
messing up. I'd really appreciate a few pointers on this.

Thx again,

Danny
I don't use Capture... I find it astronomically klutzy.

However, play around with Place, Hierarchical Block for making
hierarchical schematics.

There is in the "View" menu a next page/previous page command, so
there must be some way to add a page to make multi-page drawings that
act as one schematic.

However I can't find it ;-)

Charlie ????

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 15:00:18 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:


Thx, Jim.
I'm using OrCAD Capture

What I've now done is put all my schematic pages into 1 root (/)
subdirectory. Then for the 1st schematic page I've called every
component X11, X12, X13 etc etc.....then the next schematic page I've
called the components X21, X22, X23 etc. The only downside now is that
when I save a schematic page it asks me if i want to save ALL the
schematic pages, to which I have no choice but to click yes OR
cancel...so I click 'yes' and it saves the lot.....again! there must be
a better way that I'm missing....

'doing_the _hierarchy_correctly'.......now I think that's where I'm
messing up. I'd really appreciate a few pointers on this.

Thx again,

Danny


I don't use Capture... I find it astronomically klutzy.

However, play around with Place, Hierarchical Block for making
hierarchical schematics.

There is in the "View" menu a next page/previous page command, so
there must be some way to add a page to make multi-page drawings that
act as one schematic.

However I can't find it ;-)

Charlie ????

...Jim Thompson
Hi Jim,
I am not sure WHAT he is doing. One thing he needs to do is get all his
refdes's straight. He needs to package the design (a step Schematics
did automagically) and that will make all his refdes unique. If he
wants heirarchy, then he creates heirarchical blocks and does that. If
he has a flat design, then, he has off-page connectors to go to the
other pages, and packages to get all the different refdes's updated.

It is always fun when you have someone who obvious felt that the manuals
and tutorials were just a waste of time... :cool:

Charlie
 
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:09:13 -0800, Charlie Edmondson
<edmondson@ieee.org> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 15:00:18 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:
[snip]

There is in the "View" menu a next page/previous page command, so
there must be some way to add a page to make multi-page drawings that
act as one schematic.

However I can't find it ;-)

Charlie ????

...Jim Thompson
Hi Jim,
I am not sure WHAT he is doing. One thing he needs to do is get all his
refdes's straight. He needs to package the design (a step Schematics
did automagically) and that will make all his refdes unique. If he
wants heirarchy, then he creates heirarchical blocks and does that. If
he has a flat design, then, he has off-page connectors to go to the
other pages, and packages to get all the different refdes's updated.

It is always fun when you have someone who obvious felt that the manuals
and tutorials were just a waste of time... :cool:

Charlie
PSpice Schematics is INTUITIVE ;-)

So how do you add a (non-hierarchical) page in Capture?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

"Winners never quit, quitters never win", Jack Bradley Budnik ~1956
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:09:13 -0800, Charlie Edmondson
edmondson@ieee.org> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

On 18 Dec 2005 15:00:18 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:

[snip]

There is in the "View" menu a next page/previous page command, so
there must be some way to add a page to make multi-page drawings that
act as one schematic.

However I can't find it ;-)

Charlie ????

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,
I am not sure WHAT he is doing. One thing he needs to do is get all his
refdes's straight. He needs to package the design (a step Schematics
did automagically) and that will make all his refdes unique. If he
wants heirarchy, then he creates heirarchical blocks and does that. If
he has a flat design, then, he has off-page connectors to go to the
other pages, and packages to get all the different refdes's updated.

It is always fun when you have someone who obvious felt that the manuals
and tutorials were just a waste of time... :cool:

Charlie


PSpice Schematics is INTUITIVE ;-)

So how do you add a (non-hierarchical) page in Capture?

...Jim Thompson
You need to go to the Project Manager view (file heirarchy looking
one...) and right click on your .DSN and do an Add Page. Fine for
doing PCBs and drawing a Schematic for documentation, but a bad idea if
you are doing simulation...

Charlie
 
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:43:15 -0800, Charlie Edmondson
<edmondson@ieee.org> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:09:13 -0800, Charlie Edmondson
edmondson@ieee.org> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

On 18 Dec 2005 15:00:18 -0800, "Danny" <dindyk@energy.com.au> wrote:

[snip]

There is in the "View" menu a next page/previous page command, so
there must be some way to add a page to make multi-page drawings that
act as one schematic.

However I can't find it ;-)

Charlie ????

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,
I am not sure WHAT he is doing. One thing he needs to do is get all his
refdes's straight. He needs to package the design (a step Schematics
did automagically) and that will make all his refdes unique. If he
wants heirarchy, then he creates heirarchical blocks and does that. If
he has a flat design, then, he has off-page connectors to go to the
other pages, and packages to get all the different refdes's updated.

It is always fun when you have someone who obvious felt that the manuals
and tutorials were just a waste of time... :cool:

Charlie


PSpice Schematics is INTUITIVE ;-)

So how do you add a (non-hierarchical) page in Capture?

...Jim Thompson
You need to go to the Project Manager view (file heirarchy looking
one...) and right click on your .DSN and do an Add Page. Fine for
doing PCBs and drawing a Schematic for documentation, but a bad idea if
you are doing simulation...

Charlie
What a crock! Part of the reason I told EMA-EDA, this very day, I'm
only renewing PSpice... take Capture and SHOVE it ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

"Winners never quit, quitters never win", Jack Bradley Budnik ~1956
 
That's exactly correct...and that's what I did (new design - and add
page business)....as you say "Fine for
doing PCBs and drawing a Schematic for documentation, but a bad idea if
you are doing simulation"
so what i've done now is have a new project for every circuit that i
want to simulate....In truth of fact none of the tutes seemed to run
with the freeby version (which is all i've got) and the manual...well I
reckon it MUST make sense to the people who wrote it. Anyway I've
achieved what i need now...thx for your time, guys.

Danny
 

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