Proton Therapy?

[Rich Grise]

I heard some commercial on the local Rush L. station, that our resident
Luddite, who actually, it turns out, is marginally educable, listens to
all day long - I was fixing some crash on his workstation, or maybe
showing him how to click "View", and I really only heard the keywords:
"Proton Therapy." What a crock, right?

So I thought I'd check it out, and whoo-boy!
http://www.proton-therapy.org/

Now, _there's_ a munchie for the brain-parts!

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

Thanks,
Rich

[now watch Win Hill come up with some cure for cancer or something ;-) ]

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <rich@example.net>
wrote (in <pan.2004.12.10.02.25.01.811508@example.net&gt about 'Proton
Therapy?', on Fri, 10 Dec 2004:

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

There is a 'How it works' link to the left on the index page.
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[Bernhard H]

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
newsan.2004.12.10.02.25.01.811508@example.net...

I heard some commercial on the local Rush L. station, that
our resident
Luddite, who actually, it turns out, is marginally
educable, listens to
all day long - I was fixing some crash on his workstation,
or maybe
showing him how to click "View", and I really only heard
the keywords:
"Proton Therapy." What a crock, right?

So I thought I'd check it out, and whoo-boy!
http://www.proton-therapy.org/

Now, _there's_ a munchie for the brain-parts!

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

Thanks,
Rich

[now watch Win Hill come up with some cure for cancer or
something ;-) ]

My english is not too good, so I couldn't uderstand
everything you wrote. Isn't proton-therapy described in the
link you posted? (BTW: I also do not know any details about
it.) But maybe this link contains some useable information
for you:
http://www.medaustron.at/pages/en/projektEN.html

Regards
Bernhard

 

Rich Grise wrote:

I heard some commercial on the local Rush L. station, that our
resident
Luddite, who actually, it turns out, is marginally educable, listens
to
all day long - I was fixing some crash on his workstation, or maybe
showing him how to click "View", and I really only heard the
keywords:
"Proton Therapy." What a crock, right?

So I thought I'd check it out, and whoo-boy!
http://www.proton-therapy.org/

Now, _there's_ a munchie for the brain-parts!

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

As John Woodgate pointed out, the link you posted contains a "how it
works" link.

The idea is that you use a proton beam in radiation therapy (for
killing deep-lying cancers) in much the same way as you use X-rays,
with the advantage that you can deposit a lot more of the energy in the
target area than you can with X-rays.

In fact it is a scheme invented by physicists to re-cycle old
synchrotrons, which can't any longer produce sufficiently energetic
particles to do experiments which can be published (because all the
obvious low energy experiments have already been done).

The catch seems to be that while radiation therapy with protons may
work better than radiation therapy with X-rays, the patients don't live
all that much longer. If proton therapy made a real difference, the
medical technology industry would be churning out table-top
synchrotrons like hot cakes - IBM built one years ago for an equally
unsuccessful application in semiconductor fabrication - and this isn't
happening.

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:40:02 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <rich@example.net
wrote (in <pan.2004.12.10.02.25.01.811508@example.net&gt about 'Proton
Therapy?', on Fri, 10 Dec 2004:
By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

There is a 'How it works' link to the left on the index page.

Thanks, Bill, Bernhard, and John.

To be honest, I kind of knew that there were how-it-works links, I guess I
was just trying to troll, my point being that people will buy anything.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Peter Bennett]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:13:42 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

I heard some commercial on the local Rush L. station, that our resident
Luddite, who actually, it turns out, is marginally educable, listens to
all day long - I was fixing some crash on his workstation, or maybe
showing him how to click "View", and I really only heard the keywords:
"Proton Therapy." What a crock, right?

So I thought I'd check it out, and whoo-boy!
http://www.proton-therapy.org/

Now, _there's_ a munchie for the brain-parts!

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

Thanks,
Rich

[now watch Win Hill come up with some cure for cancer or something ;-) ]

Here's some more info on proton therapy (from my employer - I've
worked on parts of the eye treatment system):
http://www.triumf.ca/welcome/proton_thrpy.html








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[Rene Tschaggelar]

Rich Grise wrote:

I heard some commercial on the local Rush L. station, that our resident
Luddite, who actually, it turns out, is marginally educable, listens to
all day long - I was fixing some crash on his workstation, or maybe
showing him how to click "View", and I really only heard the keywords:
"Proton Therapy." What a crock, right?

So I thought I'd check it out, and whoo-boy!
http://www.proton-therapy.org/

Now, _there's_ a munchie for the brain-parts!

By the way, WTF _is_ "proton therapy"?

A proton has more bang for the buck than X-ray, so to say,
as it is heavier. Being a particle with some weight, it
is breaked in a rather small area where the energy is
deposited. Being a charged particle, it can be focused and
accelerated rather easily. Another option would be neutrons,
which are equally heavy. But they require a nuclear reactor
to produce them. And focussing is not trivial either.

Rene
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