protel 99 SE won't Unlock?

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Fred

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Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load
my software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock
the software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right
I've had the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on
a second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just
too much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a
replacement copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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Have you remembered to put the 'dashes' in the code?

"Fred" <fps@pmr-iowa.com> wrote in message
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Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load my
software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock the
software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right I've had
the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on a
second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just too
much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a replacement
copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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martin.shoebridge wrote:
Have you remembered to put the 'dashes' in the code?

"Fred" <fps@pmr-iowa.com> wrote in message
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Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load my
software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock the
software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right I've had
the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on a
second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just too
much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a replacement
copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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Hi Martin,
Click to expand...

When you enter the codes the dashes are automatically entered. It's
interesting as some of the tools open, others won't. I'm disabling my
spyware and virus protection to see if that helps.

Thanks for the reply,

Fred

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I've only ever tried the demo, but it licensed by writing to the disk
in an obscure way. Perhaps you're running NTFS on the latest disk
instead of FAT32?

colin

Fred wrote:
Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load
my software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock
the software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right
I've had the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on
a second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just
too much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a
replacement copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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Hi Colin,

A very good point. I reinstalled the software on a computer in the lab
using Fat32 for C: disk. It worked, my software disk is OK. Then I went
and looked at the laptop computer on which this software will not
unlock. It's FAT32 formatted. Maybe worth reformatting the disk an
option if I can find the restore disk.

Thanks,

Fred
colin_toogood@yahoo.com wrote:
I've only ever tried the demo, but it licensed by writing to the disk
in an obscure way. Perhaps you're running NTFS on the latest disk
instead of FAT32?

colin

Fred wrote:
Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load
my software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock
the software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right
I've had the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on
a second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just
too much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a
replacement copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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Fred Again:
So I've reinstalled the software on the problematic laptop. I can
un-lock all the modules except "Schematic 5.0" (a pretty necessary
part). When I try to unlock Schematic5.0, the following message error
message appears:

Exception EAccess Violation in module AdvSch.dll. Access violation @
address 01851212 in module 'AdvSch.dll' read of address 00000000.

Look familiar?

Regards,

Fred
Fred wrote:
Hi Colin,

A very good point. I reinstalled the software on a computer in the lab
using Fat32 for C: disk. It worked, my software disk is OK. Then I went
and looked at the laptop computer on which this software will not
unlock. It's FAT32 formatted. Maybe worth reformatting the disk an
option if I can find the restore disk.

Thanks,

Fred
colin_toogood@yahoo.com wrote:
I've only ever tried the demo, but it licensed by writing to the disk
in an obscure way. Perhaps you're running NTFS on the latest disk
instead of FAT32?

colin

Fred wrote:
Hi All,

I am a licensed user of Protel 99 SE and have used it for a few years on
several computers. Recently, I bought a new computer and tried to load
my software on the machine. It will load but will not allow me to unlock
the software. I know I,m doing it right, and the user codes are right
I've had the software for several years.

To make sure my computer wasn't faulty, I tried to load the software on
a second Win XP machine in the lab. I had the same problem.

I believe the SW disk has been damaged and no longer loads properly.
Perhaps having Trend Micro Antivirus and Webroot spyware Sweep is just
too much. Has anyone had this problem? Can I get or download a
replacement copy? Can't seem to find any help from ALtium.

Thanks,


Fred



Regards,

Fred Sprague
PMR, Inc
607 West Broadway Ave
Faifield Iowa 52556
(641)469-5507


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Fred,
While this particular problem is not familiar, there is an overall
familiarity to your current plight. Are you knowledgable of the
"full-clean-uninstall" procedure for P99SE? The current state that you find
yourself in sounds like it could, just possibly, be related to some DLLs
that the normal uninstall does not remove.

Here is copy of the clean uninstall procedure.
(In Step 5. The *.BPL or *.DPL files number approx. 5 of each. You are
looking for CSRTL50.bpl, ProtelComponents50.bpl, vcl50.bpl, vcldb50.bpl,
vclx50.bpl, CSRTL.dpl, ProtelComponents.dpl, vcl30.dpl, VCLDB30.DPL, and
VCLX30.DPL. Usually, some are removed by the uninstall but not all.)


Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6:

PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have
uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is
still acting up.

SOLUTION:

1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE
2) Un-install 99SE
3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory
(make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before you do
this).
4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder
5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if they are
still remaining.
6) Re-install Protel 99 SE
a) If Win 9x then Reboot
7) Re-apply Service Pack 6
a) If Win 9x Then Reboot


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Sincerely,
Brad Velander.


"Fred" <fps@pmr-iowa.com> wrote in message
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Fred Again:
So I've reinstalled the software on the problematic laptop. I can un-lock
all the modules except "Schematic 5.0" (a pretty necessary part). When I
try to unlock Schematic5.0, the following message error message appears:

Exception EAccess Violation in module AdvSch.dll. Access violation @
address 01851212 in module 'AdvSch.dll' read of address 00000000.

Look familiar?

Regards,

Fred
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Hi Brad,

Thanks for the post. I did as you suggest but was unsuccessful. Perhaps
files are in other directories on Win-XP. I deleted directory "Design
Explorer 99 SE". I deleted *99se.* in C:\windows. Then I did a search
for *.bpl, *.dpl and found them in windows\system32. SO I deleted them
as well. Then the computer was rebooted and I installed 99se. When I
tried to unlock the software elements I got the same reaction; could
unlock all but Schematic.

I'm bummed.

Fred
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Fred,

If your personal situation has not prevented you from doing so, have you
tried reformatting the hard disk within the PC that you are having problems
with?

Doing that won't necessarily solve your problem (as there could be some
aspect of the hard disk which is stopping the schematic server from
unlocking, and which even a reformat might not fix), but if it is feasible
for you to do that, it might still make a difference.

I am fully aware that doing that would not be a trivial undertaking though,
so something else which would be worthwhile for you to experiment with
beforehand is generally "experimenting" with the Client99SE.ini file
contained within the Windows (/ WINNT / whatever) directory. Before you do
anything else, make a backup copy of that file (and store that copy in some
other folder), and then see what happens in various circumstances, such as
totally deleting the file contained within the Windows directory (is it
subsequently regenerated when you next start Protel 99 SE?), examining the
details listed under the [Locks] section (probably located at the very end
of that file, but search for it if it's not) and perhaps even editing the
details which are listed there (and especially paying attention to the line
which specifies the lock for the "Sch" server).

And another file in the same (Windows) directory which could also be worth
similarly experimenting with (after once again making a backup copy of that
file within another folder) is the AdvSch99SE.ini file (given that you have
been experiencing problems with the schematic server).

If you eventually do manage the unlock the schematic server again after
experimenting with those files (and perhaps yet other Protel 99 SE related
files also located within the same (Windows) directory), it is not out of
the question that you would then need to "recustomise" your copy of Protel
99 SE again, but that would still be a small price to pay to regain full
functionality again.

And as far as Altium's attitude is concerned, it's one thing for them to no
longer provide support in the form of answering any questions about how to
actually use Protel 99 SE, but it's quite another to provide no assistance
to anyone who is experiencing problems with unlocking any of the servers.
The license which you purchased is presumably of a permanent nature, and as
such, there should be an ongoing obligation on their behalf to continue
supporting any users who are experiencing such problems (assuming of course
that such users actually possess a valid license).

I'm not totally certain whether it's true, but I still think that it would
be (technically) possible for them to issue you with another license number
which would unlock *just* the schematic server (and on a permanent basis),
and that you could simultaneously continue using the license number which
they have already issued to you in order to unlock all of the other servers.
(But if that is not actually true though, and they are unable to provide you
with satisfactory assistance in order to unlock the schematic server using
your existing license number, then they should be required to provide you
with a new license number which unlocks all of the servers.)

While I have never seen any of the source code which is associated with
analysing license numbers and enabling (/ unlocking) the different servers,
I still have reason to believe that some parts of that code can make "low
level" changes to data stored on hard drives, in order to enforce time
limits on licenses of a temporary nature (which are provided to people in
order to permit them to evaluate the software during a trial period, and
prior to actually purchasing it). In the cases of licence numbers which are
supposed to enable one or more servers on a *permanent* basis though, the
server(s) concerned *should* always be enabled, and regardless of any "low
level" data which might ever have been written to the hard drive during any
occasion.

Having said that, Altium's software is notorious because of a "near enough
is good enough" attitude, and a frequent unwillingness to investigate the
fine details of how to implement features and functionality properly. And as
such, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there are actually bugs
within the code for analysing licence numbers and enabling the different
servers which can sometimes result in even license numbers of a permanent
nature malfunctioning in some circumstances...

In any event, good luck in your quest to regain the use of the schematic
server on your new PC.

Regards,
Geoff Harland.
g_harland@optum12net.cos.au
(Transpose m & s in address
provided - then also remove
cuberoot of 10^3 + 9^3 - 1^3.)
 
Hi Brad,

Thanks for the post. I did as you suggest but was unsuccessful. Perhaps
files are in other directories on Win-XP. I deleted directory "Design
Explorer 99 SE". I deleted *99se.* in C:\windows. Then I did a search
for *.bpl, *.dpl and found them in windows\system32. SO I deleted them
as well. Then the computer was rebooted and I installed 99se. When I
tried to unlock the software elements I got the same reaction; could
unlock all but Schematic.

I'm bummed.

Fred




Brad Velander wrote:
Fred,
While this particular problem is not familiar, there is an overall
familiarity to your current plight. Are you knowledgable of the
"full-clean-uninstall" procedure for P99SE? The current state that you find
yourself in sounds like it could, just possibly, be related to some DLLs
that the normal uninstall does not remove.

Here is copy of the clean uninstall procedure.
(In Step 5. The *.BPL or *.DPL files number approx. 5 of each. You are
looking for CSRTL50.bpl, ProtelComponents50.bpl, vcl50.bpl, vcldb50.bpl,
vclx50.bpl, CSRTL.dpl, ProtelComponents.dpl, vcl30.dpl, VCLDB30.DPL, and
VCLX30.DPL. Usually, some are removed by the uninstall but not all.)


Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6:

PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have
uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is
still acting up.

SOLUTION:

1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE
2) Un-install 99SE
3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory
(make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before you do
this).
4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder
5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if they are
still remaining.
6) Re-install Protel 99 SE
a) If Win 9x then Reboot
7) Re-apply Service Pack 6
a) If Win 9x Then Reboot
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Fred wrote:
Hi Brad,

Thanks for the post. I did as you suggest but was unsuccessful. Perhaps
files are in other directories on Win-XP. I deleted directory "Design
Explorer 99 SE". I deleted *99se.* in C:\windows. Then I did a search
for *.bpl, *.dpl and found them in windows\system32. SO I deleted them
as well. Then the computer was rebooted and I installed 99se. When I
tried to unlock the software elements I got the same reaction; could
unlock all but Schematic.

I'm bummed.

Fred




Brad Velander wrote:
Fred,
While this particular problem is not familiar, there is an overall
familiarity to your current plight. Are you knowledgable of the
"full-clean-uninstall" procedure for P99SE? The current state that you
find yourself in sounds like it could, just possibly, be related to
some DLLs that the normal uninstall does not remove.

Here is copy of the clean uninstall procedure.
(In Step 5. The *.BPL or *.DPL files number approx. 5 of each. You are
looking for CSRTL50.bpl, ProtelComponents50.bpl, vcl50.bpl,
vcldb50.bpl, vclx50.bpl, CSRTL.dpl, ProtelComponents.dpl, vcl30.dpl,
VCLDB30.DPL, and VCLX30.DPL. Usually, some are removed by the
uninstall but not all.)


Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6:

PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have
uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is
still acting up.

SOLUTION:

1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE
2) Un-install 99SE
3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory
(make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before
you do
this).
4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder
5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if
they are
still remaining.
6) Re-install Protel 99 SE
a) If Win 9x then Reboot
7) Re-apply Service Pack 6
a) If Win 9x Then Reboot



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And then software companies are surprised that people, honest users,
revert to the cracked market to be sure their software, payed software
btw, will run for years to come.
I'me not in favor of cracked sw but I like to have full service for at
least 10 years. FULL service.
I still run software from mid 90's. It is still able to do the job very
well. And then I know this software.
Zilog
 
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