Programming an EPC1 conf.Dev. from Altera

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Michael Werner

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Hello,
How can i program a configuration Device (EPC1PC8) for my Altera EP1K30
FPGA? It is not in system programmable.
I´m using for coniguring the FPGA a ByteblasterMV-Cable.
Now I´m looking for a method to program the EPC1.
I have found some information in the web, that there is a adapter available
to programm the EPC1. Is there any description available?, Schematic?.

Thanks.
 
Michael Werner wrote:

Hello,
How can i program a configuration Device (EPC1PC8) for my Altera EP1K30
FPGA? It is not in system programmable.
I´m using for coniguring the FPGA a ByteblasterMV-Cable.
Now I´m looking for a method to program the EPC1.
I have found some information in the web, that there is a adapter available
to programm the EPC1. Is there any description available?, Schematic?.
Click to expand...
Did you have a look at AN116 from Altera.
Configuring APEX20k, Flex10k & Flex6k Devices. Eventhough this
application notes also applies to the ACEX family, Altera didn't
find the need to include it in the title of the application note.

There are plenty of notes for different setups with schematic
and everything.

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
 
"Michael Werner" <unimatrix9@t-online.de> wrote in message
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Hello,
How can i program a configuration Device (EPC1PC8) for my Altera EP1K30
FPGA? It is not in system programmable.
I´m using for coniguring the FPGA a ByteblasterMV-Cable.
Now I´m looking for a method to program the EPC1.
I have found some information in the web, that there is a adapter
available
to programm the EPC1. Is there any description available?, Schematic?.

Thanks.
Click to expand...
You will need some kind of device programmer that supports EPC1 device.As an
alternative,
you can use ATMEL FPGA configuration devices, which are MUCH cheaper and are
ISP.
The ISP software is free and you can build ISP programming adapter for
nothing. All relevant
datasheets and software are downloadable from ATMEL site
( http://www.atmel.com/products/Config/ )
I'm using them with various ALTERA devices and everything works flawlessly.
Only be careful - there are 2 types - XILINX,ATMEL compatible and ALTERA
compatible (A suffix) !

regards

Dejan
 
Rene Tschaggelar <none@none.net> wrote in news:402f86d2$0$715
$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch:

Did you have a look at AN116 from Altera.
Yes, i have.
Configuring APEX20k, Flex10k & Flex6k Devices. Eventhough this
application notes also applies to the ACEX family, Altera didn't
find the need to include it in the title of the application note.

There are plenty of notes for different setups with schematic
and everything.
Click to expand...
The acex works very fine , but my problem is , i want to program the
epc1pc Chip. It don´t support in system programming.
I have to programm it "stand alone" i have only a byteblasterMV and the
Software says (MaxPlus) that the hardware does not support this device.
I found a schematic to modify the Byteblaster MV, so that the software
thinks it is an BB2.
When this works, how do i connect the epc1 to the byteblaster?

sorry for my bad english

Michael Werner
 
"Dejan Durdenic" <dejan.XremovethisX.durdenic@zg.htnet.hr> wrote in
news:c0o0t0$r1j$1@ls219.htnet.hr:
You will need some kind of device programmer that supports EPC1
device.As an alternative,
you can use ATMEL FPGA configuration devices, which are MUCH cheaper
and are ISP.
The ISP software is free and you can build ISP programming adapter for
nothing. All relevant
datasheets and software are downloadable from ATMEL site
( http://www.atmel.com/products/Config/ )
I'm using them with various ALTERA devices and everything works
flawlessly. Only be careful - there are 2 types - XILINX,ATMEL
compatible and ALTERA compatible (A suffix) !
Yes, i´ve seen them, but i can buy only 100 pieces at one time, and i need
Click to expand...
only 6.

Wich Programmer do i need for the altera devices?

Michael Werner
 
Michael Werner wrote:

Rene Tschaggelar <none@none.net> wrote in news:402f86d2$0$715
$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch:


Did you have a look at AN116 from Altera.

Yes, i have.

Configuring APEX20k, Flex10k & Flex6k Devices. Eventhough this
application notes also applies to the ACEX family, Altera didn't
find the need to include it in the title of the application note.

There are plenty of notes for different setups with schematic
and everything.


The acex works very fine , but my problem is , i want to program the
epc1pc Chip. It don´t support in system programming.
I have to programm it "stand alone" i have only a byteblasterMV and the
Software says (MaxPlus) that the hardware does not support this device.
I found a schematic to modify the Byteblaster MV, so that the software
thinks it is an BB2.
When this works, how do i connect the epc1 to the byteblaster?
Click to expand...
I used the bigger brother, the EPC2 together with an 1k30.
The EPC2 can be programmed with the ByteblasterMV.

Ah, there is a new configuration handbook to be downloaded.
Yes. chapter 6, page 6-18 shows that it works with EPC2 or EPC1.
So they appear to be compatible.
Then further page 6-34.
However, when I did the ACEX1k30 design, I was told to use the
EPC2. So there is a chance it may not work.

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
 
"Michael Werner" <unimatrix9@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:c0o1pn$kjl$01$3@news.t-online.com...
"Dejan Durdenic" <dejan.XremovethisX.durdenic@zg.htnet.hr> wrote in
news:c0o0t0$r1j$1@ls219.htnet.hr:
You will need some kind of device programmer that supports EPC1
device.As an alternative,
you can use ATMEL FPGA configuration devices, which are MUCH cheaper
and are ISP.
The ISP software is free and you can build ISP programming adapter for
nothing. All relevant
datasheets and software are downloadable from ATMEL site
( http://www.atmel.com/products/Config/ )
I'm using them with various ALTERA devices and everything works
flawlessly. Only be careful - there are 2 types - XILINX,ATMEL
compatible and ALTERA compatible (A suffix) !
Yes, i´ve seen them, but i can buy only 100 pieces at one time, and i need
only 6.

Wich Programmer do i need for the altera devices?

Michael Werner
Click to expand...
Well, there are several that support EPC1 - Xeltek SuperPro Z
(www.xeltek.com ), for example...(about 250 US$)

regards Dejan
 
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