problem with model-sim altera eda in quartus

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ulla

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i want to simulate my design with the in-built simulator model-sim altera
in quartus. i can do the full compilation until the eda-netlist writer
without any problems but then i get the following errors and infos and i
really don't know what to do and would be very happy for useful hints.
cheers ulla


Info: Running Quartus II Shell
Info: Version 4.1 Build 181 06/29/2004 SJ Full Version
Info: Processing started: Thu Sep 2 17:31:14 2004
Info: Command: quartus_sh -t /tools/quartus/4.1/linux/qnativesim.tcl hello
hello
Info: quartus(args): hello hello
Info: Start Nativelink Simulation process
Info: Initialization of EDA simulation settings was successful
Info: Changed to directory simulation/modelsim ...
Info: Current directory is : /home/ulla/simulation/modelsim
Info: Running ModelSim-Altera software
Info: VHDL script : /tools/quartus/4.1/linux//modelsim_vhdl.tcl
Info: Initialization of NativeLink successful
Info: Initialization of EDA advanced simulation settings was successful
Info: Creating directory modelsim_work for VHDL simulation
Info: Compiling design file hello.vho
Error: Compilation of design file hello.vho was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vcom": no such file or directory
Info: Compiling test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht
Error: Compilation of test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vcom": no such file or directory
Info: Simulating design TB_CARD
Error: Simulation of design TB_CARD was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vsim": no such file or directory
Info: Check ModelSim transcript file for more details
Error: NativeLink simulation flow was NOT successful
Info: Nativelink simulation process ended
Error: Quartus II Full Compilation was unsuccessful. 1 error, 188
warnings
 
Hi,

do you want to perform a functional simulation
1) of your VHDL code or
2) of the gate-level (synthesized netlist from Quartus) file?

Did you simulate the behaviour of your design that is number 1) ?
This kind of simulation is recommended to verify the functionality
of your design.
You do not need to let QuartusII open Modelsim automatically, just
deactivate (under Settings --> Simulation) "Run tool automatically".
I also work with QuartusII and Modelsim (by the way: What versions
do you use?) and I always start Modelsim separately.

Kind regards

André

"ulla" <eisenmann@thechilli.net> wrote in message news:<5533973a029126022416a96c64b58450@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com>...
i want to simulate my design with the in-built simulator model-sim altera
in quartus. i can do the full compilation until the eda-netlist writer
without any problems but then i get the following errors and infos and i
really don't know what to do and would be very happy for useful hints.
cheers ulla


Info: Running Quartus II Shell
Info: Version 4.1 Build 181 06/29/2004 SJ Full Version
Info: Processing started: Thu Sep 2 17:31:14 2004
Info: Command: quartus_sh -t /tools/quartus/4.1/linux/qnativesim.tcl hello
hello
Info: quartus(args): hello hello
Info: Start Nativelink Simulation process
Info: Initialization of EDA simulation settings was successful
Info: Changed to directory simulation/modelsim ...
Info: Current directory is : /home/ulla/simulation/modelsim
Info: Running ModelSim-Altera software
Info: VHDL script : /tools/quartus/4.1/linux//modelsim_vhdl.tcl
Info: Initialization of NativeLink successful
Info: Initialization of EDA advanced simulation settings was successful
Info: Creating directory modelsim_work for VHDL simulation
Info: Compiling design file hello.vho
Error: Compilation of design file hello.vho was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vcom": no such file or directory
Info: Compiling test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht
Error: Compilation of test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vcom": no such file or directory
Info: Simulating design TB_CARD
Error: Simulation of design TB_CARD was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vsim": no such file or directory
Info: Check ModelSim transcript file for more details
Error: NativeLink simulation flow was NOT successful
Info: Nativelink simulation process ended
Error: Quartus II Full Compilation was unsuccessful. 1 error, 188
warnings
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"ulla" wrote
i want to simulate my design with the in-built simulator model-sim altera
in quartus.

Info: Creating directory modelsim_work for VHDL simulation
Info: Compiling design file hello.vho
Error: Compilation of design file hello.vho was NOT successful
Info: ModelSim: couldn't execute "vcom": no such file or directory
Info: Compiling test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht
Error: Compilation of test bench file
/home/ulla/simulation/modelsim/myTestbench1.vht was NOT successful
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Sounds like vcom is not in your path.

Open a shell (or start, run, command) and type "vcom"
If it's not in your path you will get something like:

62 steptoe Thu Sep 02 /evtfs/home/tres/vhdl > vcom
bash: vcom: command not found

Once you get the path set, expect this:

63 steptoe Thu Sep 02 /evtfs/home/tres/vhdl > vcom
Usage: vcom [options] files
Options:
-help Print this message
-time Print the compilation wall clock time
-version Print the version of the compiler
- ...

I like to use vcom and vsim interactively
while I'm editing code. Altera pushes a
synthesis-first flow that makes no sense
to me. In any case, I hesitate to automate
a process that I haven't done manually first.

Maybe one of the Altera guys will comment.

-- Mike Treseler
 
hi andre, thank you for your answer.

I want to simulate the behaviour of my design and I don't know how to do
it properly with quartus(4.1).

thanks
ulla
 
"ulla" <eisenmann@thechilli.net> wrote in message news:<549424eb22dc07fe521e9569fbaa141a@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com>...
hi andre, thank you for your answer.

I want to simulate the behaviour of my design and I don't know how to do
it properly with quartus(4.1).

thanks
ulla
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Hi Ulla,

did you have experience in writing testbenches for functional simulation ?

Rgds
André
 
Hi Andre,

yes I know how to write proper testbenches for functional simulations. I
normally used synopsys VCC for simulation purposes and as I don't have the
possibility to use it anymore, I have to use Quartus.

Rgds
Ulla
 
Hi Ulla,
I think Quatrus is a synthesis tool and not a simulator. If you
are looking for a free simulator, try ModelsimXE (from xilinx.com) or
Icarus Verilog.

Good Luck,
Aji,
http://www.noveldv.com
"ulla" <eisenmann@thechilli.net> wrote in message news:<87f0f0f929ca07ea36831b7a1ccdefbc@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com>...
Hi Andre,

yes I know how to write proper testbenches for functional simulations. I
normally used synopsys VCC for simulation purposes and as I don't have the
possibility to use it anymore, I have to use Quartus.

Rgds
Ulla
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"ulla" <eisenmann@thechilli.net> wrote in message news:<87f0f0f929ca07ea36831b7a1ccdefbc@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com>...
Hi Andre,

yes I know how to write proper testbenches for functional simulations. I
normally used synopsys VCC for simulation purposes and as I don't have the
possibility to use it anymore, I have to use Quartus.

Rgds
Ulla
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Hi Ulla,

are you using QuartusII WebEdition or with full license including Modelsim?

You should use an independent simulation tool for your simulations and
as I use Modelsim I can recommend it ;o)

Rgds
Andre
 
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