Problem in loading SKILL file! Processes???

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Reotaro Hashemoto

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Hi,

I've created a simple file that contains set of commands calling
functions, this file looks like:

myCreateNetlist(libName cell1 list(par11 val11 par21 val21 par31
val31))
myCreateNetlist(libName cell2 list(par12 val12 par22 val22 par32
val32))
myCreateNetlist(libName cell3 list(par13 val13 par23 val23 par33
val33))
.....

The function myCreateNetlist() is based on calling Calibre netlisting
function:
_mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist()

This function uses si somehow to create the netlist through
ipcBeginProcess (i cant see in the file any usage of ipcWait...)

This is part of the skill_query file in Calibre: ($CALIBRE_HOME/shared/
pkgs/icv/tools/queryskl/mgc_export.skl)

......
procedure( _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist(libName cellName viewName
fileName "tttt")
prog( (si_cmd)
mgc_rve_set_cdlout_keys(libName cellName viewName
fileName)
when( mgc_rve_globals->show_cdl_dlg && !
mgc_rve_export_cdl_dlg(t)
return()
) ; when
printf("\n*** Calibre Interactive: Exporting netlist
for cell %s ***\n" cellName)
g_mgcExportCdlConnectFile = fileName
when( mgc_rve_create_sienv_file()
si_cmd = mgc_rve_export_netlist_cmd(libName
cellName viewName fileName)
ipcBeginProcess(si_cmd "" 'mgc_rve_cdl_handler
'mgc_rve_cdl_handler 'mgc_rve_cdl_postFunc)
) ; when
return(t)
) ; prog
) ; _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist
......

What happens is:
when I load the file of commands, it stops after processing first
line, although if i executed line by line in CIW it works!!!

Should I somehow wait for each command to be executed?

I've tried to use ipcSkillProcess() together with ipcWaitForProcess()
but reached nothing...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Ahmad
 
Dear Ahmad,

The _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist() function is running ipc in a
synchroneoes mode, communicating using the data and exit handlers. So
there is no need to ipcWait in this instance.
I'm busy these to create something to run on your example, but if you
post a simple version of your myCreateNetlist() that I could run as it
is then I could help more. Sorry, I'm usually more helpful but hardly
finding any spare time now ... Besides, the Calibre command has got a
postFunc. Well i don't see any reason for it to stop your process but
it's good to know what it is doing anyway.

Looking forward for your details.

Regards,
Riad.
 
Salamu alaykom Riad,

Thanks a lot for your reply. An exact example to re-produce my
situation is to create a file (let's call: "calNetlistEx.il") and load
in CIW, the file can simply contain:

;=============== Start here =====================libName="anyExistingLib" ;; Please replace with any existing lib
you've
cellName="anySchematicCellInThisLib" ;; Put the name of any cell name
(schematic)

_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_1.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_2.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_3.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_4.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_5.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_6.spi"))
_mgc_rve_create_netlist(libName cellName "schematic" strcat(libName
cellName "_7.spi"))

;==================== End here ========================
When u load this file in CIW, you'll notice that it creates the last
netlist only, although if u tried to copy and paste commands directly
one by one in CIW (rather than loading the file) it works! Seems like
it's somehow overloaded..

Does that make sense? Do u have an idea to solve?

Thanks and best regards,
Ahmad
On Jun 26, 1:11 am, Riad KACED <riad.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ahmad,

The _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist() function is running ipc in a
synchroneoes mode, communicating using the data and exit handlers. So
there is no need to ipcWait in this instance.
I'm busy these to create something to run on your example, but if you
post a simple version of your myCreateNetlist() that I could run as it
is then I could help more. Sorry, I'm usually more helpful but hardly
finding any spare time now ... Besides, the Calibre command has got a
postFunc. Well i don't see any reason for it to stop your process but
it's good to know what it is doing anyway.

Looking forward for your details.

Regards,
Riad.
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Hi Ahmad,

This does not work because the underlying program, i.e. "si" is
running the job in the same area. Your jobs are eventually overriding
each other, look at the CDS.log to see that thinks are getting
overwritten.
In your case, you need to write your own skill code that invoke 'si'
in a synchronous mode, i.e run the first export, wait up until it
finishes, run the 2nd and so on .... Multiple invoke of that Calibre
command on the same lib/cell/view is not the right way in your case.

Regards,
Riad.
 
Salam Ahmad,

Pretty easy, just look at the Cadence's Design Data Translator’s
Reference Manual, $CDSHOME/doc/transref/transref.pdf or use cdsdoc/
cdnshelp
Look at section: Running CDL Out from the Command Line. This says:
1. Prepare the si.env file.
Among other information, the si.env file carries the name of the
design to be netlisted. For more information, see the section
Preparing an si.env File on page 223.
2. Type the following at the command line:
si -batch -command netlist

I let you read the remaining of it.

So if we go back to your calibre function example, then one could make
use of function _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist since it does create the
si.env file upon the skil global variable cdlOutKeys. It does also set
the batch command for you. All you need is to replace the asynchronous
ipc call by a synchronous one, i.e run a first export, wait, run a
second etc ...

This is a bit of code I have made for you (minimum update of the
_mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist function). Give it a look and update it at
your convenience ! try it using the code you have posted earlier,
changing _mgc_rve_create_netlist call by AhmadcreateCdlNetlist.
A bit of doc reading, curiosity and reverse-engineering and ... Bob's
your uncle :)

Cheers,
Riad !

procedure( AhmadcreateCdlNetlist(libName cellName viewName fileName
"tttt")
prog( (pid si_cmd)
mgc_rve_set_cdlout_keys(libName cellName viewName fileName)
when( mgc_rve_globals->show_cdl_dlg && !mgc_rve_export_cdl_dlg(t)
return()
) ; when
printf("\n*** Exporting netlist for cell %s ***\n" cellName)
g_mgcExportCdlConnectFile = fileName
when( mgc_rve_create_sienv_file()
si_cmd = mgc_rve_export_get_cdl_cmd(libName cellName viewName
fileName)
pid=ipcBeginProcess(si_cmd)
ipcWait(pid)
printf("%L" ipcReadProcess(pid))
) ; when
return(t)
) ; prog
) ; AhmadcreateCdlNetlist
 
Thanks a lot Riad for the help...

I was out of the office for a while so I couldn't test it.

Unfortunately, using your code with ipcWait() didn't solve the
problem.

I still get the same error message:
"si: Simulation is already running in run directory "blablabla".\n"

Using a delay (through long for loop for around 20 seconds solved it,
but i don't think this is the best solution :-(

Thanks for any additional hints..

Ahmad


On Jun 30, 3:20 pm, Riad KACED <riad.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
Salam Ahmad,

Pretty easy, just look at the Cadence's Design Data Translator’s
Reference Manual, $CDSHOME/doc/transref/transref.pdf or use cdsdoc/
cdnshelp
Look at section: Running CDL Out from the Command Line. This says:
1. Prepare the si.env file.
  Among other information, the si.env file carries the name of the
design to be netlisted. For more information, see the section
Preparing an si.env File on page 223.
2. Type the following at the command line:
  si -batch -command netlist

I let you read the remaining of it.

So if we go back to your calibre function example, then one could make
use of function _mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist since it does create the
si.env file upon the skil global variable cdlOutKeys. It does also set
the batch command for you. All you need is to replace the asynchronous
ipc call by a synchronous one, i.e run a first export, wait, run a
second etc ...

This is a bit of code I have made for you (minimum update of the
_mgc_rve_create_cdl_netlist function). Give it a look and update it at
your convenience ! try it using the code you have posted earlier,
changing _mgc_rve_create_netlist call by AhmadcreateCdlNetlist.
A bit of doc reading, curiosity and reverse-engineering and ... Bob's
your uncle :)

Cheers,
Riad !

procedure( AhmadcreateCdlNetlist(libName cellName viewName fileName
"tttt")
  prog( (pid si_cmd)
    mgc_rve_set_cdlout_keys(libName cellName viewName fileName)
    when( mgc_rve_globals->show_cdl_dlg && !mgc_rve_export_cdl_dlg(t)
      return()
    ) ; when
    printf("\n*** Exporting netlist for cell %s ***\n" cellName)
    g_mgcExportCdlConnectFile = fileName
    when( mgc_rve_create_sienv_file()
      si_cmd = mgc_rve_export_get_cdl_cmd(libName cellName viewName
fileName)
      pid=ipcBeginProcess(si_cmd)
      ipcWait(pid)
      printf("%L" ipcReadProcess(pid))
    ) ; when
    return(t)
  ) ; prog
) ; AhmadcreateCdlNetlist
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Hi Amhad,

There is no reason for the code I have provided not to work. I'm
pretty much sure you have got something else odd in your whole
program. Are you sure you have re-loaded your script with the right
functions to be called ?
The ipcWait() causes the parent process to suspend until the child
terminates.
Anyway, it's better getting in touch with your Cadence AE in this
case.

Regards,
Riad.
 
Hello Riad,

Thanks a lot for your time to test and reply.

So, how should I write the SKILL code of 'si' invocation?

Best regards,
Ahmad


On Jun 29, 4:09 pm, Riad KACED <riad.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ahmad,

This does not work because the underlying program, i.e. "si" is
running the job in the same area. Your jobs are eventually overriding
each other, look at the CDS.log to see that thinks are getting
overwritten.
In your case, you need to write your own skill code that invoke 'si'
in a synchronous mode, i.e run the first export, wait up until it
finishes, run the 2nd and so on .... Multiple invoke of that  Calibre
command on the same lib/cell/view is not the right way in your case.

Regards,
Riad.
Click to expand...
 
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