President Biden Announces New Actions to Ease the Burden of Housing Costs...

[Fred Bloggs]

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

 

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d web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every propo=
sal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I d=
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e, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they look=
ed at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actuall=
y achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell thes=
e plans.

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sident-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

 

[Fred Bloggs]

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If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangle=
d web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every propo=
sal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I d=
oubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no incom=
e, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they look=
ed at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actuall=
y achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell thes=
e plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/pre=
sident-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

 

[server]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

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[Jeroen Belleman]

On 2022-07-04 17:47, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

Jeroen Belleman

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 19:51:01 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

On 2022-07-04 17:47, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.


The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Sure, resident subsidies increase prices. But increasing the supply
will reduce price. Government tends to do more when the best thing is
to do less.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

But they have to live somewhere, and that increases demand hence
price.

Jeroen Belleman
--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.

Jeroen Belleman

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman

One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.

The work-at-home thing may take the pressure off big cities, let
people spread out into small towns and burbs. I have a friend who
manages sw development for a cubesat company; he left the SF bay area
and cashed in some bitcoins for a farm in Tennessee.

Rents are down here now. This work-at-home thing may be permanent.
Makes sense.



--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <avd6ch1sgj1smcbug1td2devagkhvcr71c@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com says...

One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.

Similar to around here. Shacks that are barley liveable are being taxed
on te land value of about $ 200,000 to $ 300,00. The poor peoplke can
not afford the tax so they have to move but sell the shacks for around
that much. Then $ 500,000 homes are built.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.

The work-at-home thing may take the pressure off big cities, let
people spread out into small towns and burbs. I have a friend who
manages sw development for a cubesat company; he left the SF bay area
and cashed in some bitcoins for a farm in Tennessee.

Rents are down here now. This work-at-home thing may be permanent.
Makes sense.

An article from Business Insider identified a trend of high tech possibly going with a lot more overseas talent via the work at home capability, especially the companies having trouble finding qualified candidates. High tech doesn\'t sound so high to me if they\'re just catching on now.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 16:28:20 -0400, Ralph Mowery
<rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <avd6ch1sgj1smcbug1td2devagkhvcr71c@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com says...

One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.




Similar to around here. Shacks that are barley liveable are being taxed
on te land value of about $ 200,000 to $ 300,00. The poor peoplke can
not afford the tax so they have to move but sell the shacks for around
that much. Then $ 500,000 homes are built.

CA has Prop 13, which nails assessments at about original purchase
price. Our next-door neighbors have an identical house, built at the
same time as ours, but bought it last year so pay about 5x our
property tax.

Our neighbors on the other side are assessed at about $80k, the
long-ago purchase price. They must pay 1/5 of our tax!


--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.

The beasts cover every square foot of the lot with house. They leave a
tiny token garden. The living rooms look like bowling alleys. We\'d be
embarassed to live in one. And they are universally ugly on the
outside.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.

I saw a pic of a gigantic high-rise building in Tokyo with a notch in
one side. The owner of a tiny noodle shop was offered millions for it
but wouldn\'t sell.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

mandag den 4. juli 2022 kl. 23.09.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.
The beasts cover every square foot of the lot with house. They leave a
tiny token garden. The living rooms look like bowling alleys. We\'d be
embarassed to live in one. And they are universally ugly on the
outside.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.
I saw a pic of a gigantic high-rise building in Tokyo with a notch in
one side. The owner of a tiny noodle shop was offered millions for it
but wouldn\'t sell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5016357/Grand-Designs-couple-build-323k-east-London-house.html

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

mandag den 4. juli 2022 kl. 23.09.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.
The beasts cover every square foot of the lot with house. They leave a
tiny token garden. The living rooms look like bowling alleys. We\'d be
embarassed to live in one. And they are universally ugly on the
outside.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.
I saw a pic of a gigantic high-rise building in Tokyo with a notch in
one side. The owner of a tiny noodle shop was offered millions for it
but wouldn\'t sell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5016357/Grand-Designs-couple-build-323k-east-London-house.html

I wonder what is the origin of \"barely - or not enough - enough room
to swing a cat\" ?

Groucho Marx used it in one movie, but I think P G Wodehouse used it
in a novel before that.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[rbowman]

On 07/04/2022 04:03 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

mandag den 4. juli 2022 kl. 23.09.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.
The beasts cover every square foot of the lot with house. They leave a
tiny token garden. The living rooms look like bowling alleys. We\'d be
embarassed to live in one. And they are universally ugly on the
outside.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.
I saw a pic of a gigantic high-rise building in Tokyo with a notch in
one side. The owner of a tiny noodle shop was offered millions for it
but wouldn\'t sell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5016357/Grand-Designs-couple-build-323k-east-London-house.html

I wonder what is the origin of \"barely - or not enough - enough room
to swing a cat\" ?

Groucho Marx used it in one movie, but I think P G Wodehouse used it
in a novel before that.

One theory is the cat in question is not a feline but the whip employed
by the British Navy. Floggings were administered on deck since there
wasn\'t enough room below to swing it properly.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

tirsdag den 5. juli 2022 kl. 00.55.23 UTC+2 skrev rbowman:

On 07/04/2022 04:03 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

mandag den 4. juli 2022 kl. 23.09.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:31:11 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-07-04 17:47, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangled web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every proposal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I doubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no income, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they looked at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actually achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell these plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

One thing I never see mentioned is the effect of immigration on
housing cost. A million or so immigrants per year need somewhere to
live.

The price of housing has always been \"what the market can support\".
Any \"help to ease the burden\" can thus only result in increasing
the price.

Immigrants are rarely rich enough to buy.

The affordable housing they\'re talking about is only available to low income qualified individuals, it\'s not on the open market. It will reduce demand for overpriced housing and rentals thereby lowering the costs in those sectors, but not by a huge amount.


Jeroen Belleman
One phenom here is developers buying dinky old houses, tearing them
down, and building a single $5 million, 5K sq ft monster. Many areas
are zoned for single-family.
The beasts cover every square foot of the lot with house. They leave a
tiny token garden. The living rooms look like bowling alleys. We\'d be
embarassed to live in one. And they are universally ugly on the
outside.

Tokyo does that. Land sells by the square foot. Despite the super high density they continue to make room for their tranquility gardens, even if it means locating in the interior foot print.
I saw a pic of a gigantic high-rise building in Tokyo with a notch in
one side. The owner of a tiny noodle shop was offered millions for it
but wouldn\'t sell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5016357/Grand-Designs-couple-build-323k-east-London-house.html

I wonder what is the origin of \"barely - or not enough - enough room
to swing a cat\" ?

Groucho Marx used it in one movie, but I think P G Wodehouse used it
in a novel before that.

One theory is the cat in question is not a feline but the whip employed
by the British Navy. Floggings were administered on deck since there
wasn\'t enough room below to swing it properly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_o%27_nine_tails

 

[John Doe]

Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting forger is trolling off-topic and other posts
with its copy of my ID, then replies (or not) to its own post.

See also...
Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com> (unlikely but possible)

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If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangle=
d web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every propo=
sal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I d=
oubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no incom=
e, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they look=
ed at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actuall=
y achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell thes=
e plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/pre=
sident-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

 

[John Doe]

The real John Doe didn\'t post that first reply. And... Doubtful Eddie, the
forger, is a fan of Donald Trump.

Difficult to believe how easily some regulars (like this one) are duped by
nym-shifting trolls (like Edward Hernandez).

Especially when the ID Eddie is copying includes the advice... \"ALWAYS
LOOK AT MESSAGE HEADER\" !!!

This poster is hopeless...

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:20:26 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
Google spam...

Yes- we know that about you already...

Looks like your delusional moron buddy is going to announce his candidacy soon- running a campaign from a prison cell will definitely put him at a disadvantage.


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If you thought health insurance was complicated, take a look at this tangle=
d web of government finance infrastructure. Supposedly each and every propo=
sal is justified by an analytical model or simulation of some sort, but I d=
oubt it, and because the bulk of it deals with low income, or even no incom=
e, prospects for break even might not look too good. Wondering if they look=
ed at the history of disparity between what they plan and what they actuall=
y achieve. I don\'t seeing them drawing on past success stories to sell thes=
e plans.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/16/pre=
sident-biden-announces-new-actions-to-ease-the-burden-of-housing-costs/

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
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Burden of Housing Costs From: John Doe
always.look@message.header> Newsgroups:
sci.electronics.design,free.spam

The real John Doe didn\'t post that first reply. And... Doubtful
Eddie, the forger, is a fan of Donald Trump.

NONE of you idiots are \"The real John Doe\". It is a fictional
character some retarded twerp here wants to project some lame
association with. As if he had the character and honor and integrity
of the character he filched the name from.