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In article <jq1t48$rdr$1@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Hour of audio recording fine, at switch off instead of going to Writing
TOC
a message come up Er Md something. Try to play it and it comes up as
Blank
Disc. Other discs play and record on this recorder. This corrupted disc
won't play on another player either
If there's no TOC entry, no normal player will see it, as you've
discovered.
Vague memories of some Minidisc play/recorders being able to be "forcibly"
made to read another disc's TOC and accept it as the TOC for a faulty
disc,
even to the point of writing it back to "correct" the disc.
Similar to the trick for using a standard data CD-R in a machine that only
wants to play "duty-paid Audio" CD-Rs. Show it one disc, let it get happy,
then rip the disc away from it and replace it while defeating the "door
open"
switch if needed.
Other alternative is to find someone with a DATA Minidisc drive in a PC
and dump the raw data off. Software codecs for the ATRAC compression
exist.
How desperate are you to get the audio back?
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If there's no TOC entry, no normal player will see it, as you've discovered.Hour of audio recording fine, at switch off instead of going to Writing TOC
a message come up Er Md something. Try to play it and it comes up as Blank
Disc. Other discs play and record on this recorder. This corrupted disc
won't play on another player either
Standard audio ones are still available from suppliers (mail order), notThe first problem , probably solved, find a local source of minidiscs , as
considered old tec now.
"Digital" data only ones are used in stuff like "multitrack" recorders e.g.The local supplier I found, has 2 types , seems "digital" for data only
minidisc systems and "normal" ones - I'll have to find out about if
cross-compatible
Heh. Good hack!Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you cannot go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to get to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread, manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to take-in the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread, manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread, manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x DIL sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of IR codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model code and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99 ,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Perhaps with macro option - possible on that learner remote mentioned above"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you
cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to
get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the
little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread, manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to
take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x DIL
sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of IR
codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model code
and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning
remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99 ,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Sorry for Off Topic post, but my dear old Mum's TV remote does not have a
dedicated Subtitle button for turning the Hard of Hearing Subtitles on and
off, which she likes to do.
Doing this via the menus is a total pain, as they are really badly written
and this command is way way down the list.
Are these learning remotes able to emulate such a button that does not
appear on the original remote? I'm hoping the Subtitle button will be
kind
of generic?
Cheers,
Gareths Mum.
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you
cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to
get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the
little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread,
manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to
take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x DIL
sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of IR
codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model code
and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning
remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99 ,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Sorry for Off Topic post, but my dear old Mum's TV remote does not have a
dedicated Subtitle button for turning the Hard of Hearing Subtitles on
and
off, which she likes to do.
Doing this via the menus is a total pain, as they are really badly
written
and this command is way way down the list.
Are these learning remotes able to emulate such a button that does not
appear on the original remote? I'm hoping the Subtitle button will be
kind
of generic?
Cheers,
Gareths Mum.
Perhaps with macro option - possible on that learner remote mentioned
above
, but again not mentioned in their sales blurb
With my hack kit , should be possible , if there is a single code buried
in
the TV decoder
Parallel to serial converter
Requirements 8 x 4021 , 8x 8way DIL sw, 2x 4011 for simple adjustable
monostable and
for gated adjustable 30 to 50 KHz oscillator, using a reasonably stable
square audio oscillator
as clock source, fed through on the inverted waveform, through the daisy
chained
shift registers. Push sw to go from parallel load to series shift.
The DIL sws for setting up the parallel data (one bit is a 1 and 0 , 3 is
101010 etc but the zeros bave to be reintroduced at the output m/s)
eg 11222322412313211 up to 64 bits and the m/s arranged
to set the bit lenght and output say 3 "1"s for continuous 3 x1 duration
output.
That gating the 40KHz oscillator to drive visible and IR LED
Working exerciser but not had time to delve into this project further at
the
moment
But you need a DSO to read the bit stream of one of the functions to get
the
model coding
as distinct from function coding, then manually sequenct through the
switch
settings to hit upon the
subtitle code
this is a useflu background to IR coding structures
http://read.pudn.com/downloads157/sourcecode/embed/701593/docs/IR%20Formats%
202.PDF
+1 on that -- glad it worked out for you!On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to get to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread, manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to take-in the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
That learner has only 1 macro but with up to 16 button pushes so for your"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jqaoo8$jhh$1@dont-email.me...
Gareth Magennis <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk
wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you
cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck to
get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the
little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable
component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread,
manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to
take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may
get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x DIL
sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of IR
codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model
code
and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning
remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99
,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Sorry for Off Topic post, but my dear old Mum's TV remote does not have
a
dedicated Subtitle button for turning the Hard of Hearing Subtitles on
and
off, which she likes to do.
Doing this via the menus is a total pain, as they are really badly
written
and this command is way way down the list.
Are these learning remotes able to emulate such a button that does not
appear on the original remote? I'm hoping the Subtitle button will be
kind
of generic?
Cheers,
Gareths Mum.
Perhaps with macro option - possible on that learner remote mentioned
above
, but again not mentioned in their sales blurb
With my hack kit , should be possible , if there is a single code buried
in
the TV decoder
Parallel to serial converter
Requirements 8 x 4021 , 8x 8way DIL sw, 2x 4011 for simple adjustable
monostable and
for gated adjustable 30 to 50 KHz oscillator, using a reasonably stable
square audio oscillator
as clock source, fed through on the inverted waveform, through the daisy
chained
shift registers. Push sw to go from parallel load to series shift.
The DIL sws for setting up the parallel data (one bit is a 1 and 0 , 3
is
101010 etc but the zeros bave to be reintroduced at the output m/s)
eg 11222322412313211 up to 64 bits and the m/s arranged
to set the bit lenght and output say 3 "1"s for continuous 3 x1 duration
output.
That gating the 40KHz oscillator to drive visible and IR LED
Working exerciser but not had time to delve into this project further at
the
moment
But you need a DSO to read the bit stream of one of the functions to get
the
model coding
as distinct from function coding, then manually sequenct through the
switch
settings to hit upon the
subtitle code
this is a useflu background to IR coding structures
http://read.pudn.com/downloads157/sourcecode/embed/701593/docs/IR%20Formats%
202.PDF
Hmm, I'll take that as a No, then.
Cheers,
Gareth.
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Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk
wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you
cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck
to
get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the
little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable
component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread,
manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to
take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may
get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x
DIL
sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of IR
codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model
code
and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning
remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99
,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate
manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Sorry for Off Topic post, but my dear old Mum's TV remote does not
have
a
dedicated Subtitle button for turning the Hard of Hearing Subtitles on
and
off, which she likes to do.
Doing this via the menus is a total pain, as they are really badly
written
and this command is way way down the list.
Are these learning remotes able to emulate such a button that does not
appear on the original remote? I'm hoping the Subtitle button will be
kind
of generic?
Cheers,
Gareths Mum.
Perhaps with macro option - possible on that learner remote mentioned
above
, but again not mentioned in their sales blurb
With my hack kit , should be possible , if there is a single code
buried
in
the TV decoder
Parallel to serial converter
Requirements 8 x 4021 , 8x 8way DIL sw, 2x 4011 for simple adjustable
monostable and
for gated adjustable 30 to 50 KHz oscillator, using a reasonably stable
square audio oscillator
as clock source, fed through on the inverted waveform, through the
daisy
chained
shift registers. Push sw to go from parallel load to series shift.
The DIL sws for setting up the parallel data (one bit is a 1 and 0 , 3
is
101010 etc but the zeros bave to be reintroduced at the output m/s)
eg 11222322412313211 up to 64 bits and the m/s arranged
to set the bit lenght and output say 3 "1"s for continuous 3 x1
duration
output.
That gating the 40KHz oscillator to drive visible and IR LED
Working exerciser but not had time to delve into this project further
at
the
moment
But you need a DSO to read the bit stream of one of the functions to
get
the
model coding
as distinct from function coding, then manually sequenct through the
switch
settings to hit upon the
subtitle code
this is a useflu background to IR coding structures
http://read.pudn.com/downloads157/sourcecode/embed/701593/docs/IR%20Formats%
202.PDF
Hmm, I'll take that as a No, then.
Cheers,
Gareth.
That learner has only 1 macro but with up to 16 button pushes so for your
purposes
Learn all the normal buttons off your set's remote control
Set MACRO as TV/Menu/direction ...... direction (up to 14 keys), to bring
cursor down to subtitles option
Then Subtitles-on would be something like
MACRO , OK
Subtitles-off would be
MACRO , DOWN, OK
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:15:54 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk
wrote:
Rereading that minidisc.org page the JE510 is a machine that you
cannot
go
down that route.
Went down the lo-tech route. Dismantled a small part of the deck
to
get
to
the eject/inject micro microswitch. Glued a bit of thread to the
little
flipper and tied to a rubber band to hook over a suitable
component.
Load as normal the donor MD full of silence, pull the thread,
manually
rotate the eject gear to eject that MD, rotate the other way to
take-in
the
target disc. Go into Edit/name to force a TOC change and eject.
Recovered full recording without gaps, in stereo , and as a
bonus
undeleted
a bit of previous recording on the end
Heh. Good hack!
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
With all the royalist crap going on in England at the moment I may
get
time
next week to return to my other hack.
Much more universal IR remote control. I've now got a 64 bit (8 x
DIL
sw)
parallel to serial converter and 2 oscillators to take a pair of
IR
codes,
in sequence, that fortuitously unlock one feature of a unit with
no
available IR r/c. Load those codes , from DSO monitoring, into my
converter
to feed IR to the unit to be hacked, to zero in on the core model
code
and
expand out for the other function codes, then load into a learning
remote.
I must get some more of these excellent learners
http://www.amazon.co.uk/7dayshop-Universal-Control-Learning-Function/dp/B004
3VTRAQ
great value as no LCD to bump up the cost, I see they are now 5.99
,not
4.99
as of last month
The search modes are usefully different, can designate
manufacturer's
codes
instead of the usual option of the whole lot.
Sorry for Off Topic post, but my dear old Mum's TV remote does not
have
a
dedicated Subtitle button for turning the Hard of Hearing Subtitles
on
and
off, which she likes to do.
Doing this via the menus is a total pain, as they are really badly
written
and this command is way way down the list.
Are these learning remotes able to emulate such a button that does
not
appear on the original remote? I'm hoping the Subtitle button will
be
kind
of generic?
Cheers,
Gareths Mum.
Perhaps with macro option - possible on that learner remote mentioned
above
, but again not mentioned in their sales blurb
With my hack kit , should be possible , if there is a single code
buried
in
the TV decoder
Parallel to serial converter
Requirements 8 x 4021 , 8x 8way DIL sw, 2x 4011 for simple adjustable
monostable and
for gated adjustable 30 to 50 KHz oscillator, using a reasonably
stable
square audio oscillator
as clock source, fed through on the inverted waveform, through the
daisy
chained
shift registers. Push sw to go from parallel load to series shift.
The DIL sws for setting up the parallel data (one bit is a 1 and 0 ,
3
is
101010 etc but the zeros bave to be reintroduced at the output m/s)
eg 11222322412313211 up to 64 bits and the m/s arranged
to set the bit lenght and output say 3 "1"s for continuous 3 x1
duration
output.
That gating the 40KHz oscillator to drive visible and IR LED
Working exerciser but not had time to delve into this project further
at
the
moment
But you need a DSO to read the bit stream of one of the functions to
get
the
model coding
as distinct from function coding, then manually sequenct through the
switch
settings to hit upon the
subtitle code
this is a useflu background to IR coding structures
http://read.pudn.com/downloads157/sourcecode/embed/701593/docs/IR%20Formats%
202.PDF
Hmm, I'll take that as a No, then.
Cheers,
Gareth.
That learner has only 1 macro but with up to 16 button pushes so for
your
purposes
Learn all the normal buttons off your set's remote control
Set MACRO as TV/Menu/direction ...... direction (up to 14 keys), to
bring
cursor down to subtitles option
Then Subtitles-on would be something like
MACRO , OK
Subtitles-off would be
MACRO , DOWN, OK
Ah, that might be a yes, then. Didn't know about macros.
At that price I think I'll buy one and give it a go.
Thanks,
Gareth.
Now you know what everybody else stopped using MiniDisc, you childHour of audio recording fine, at switch off instead of going to Writing TOC
a message come up Er Md something. Try to play it and it comes up as Blank
Disc. Other discs play and record on this recorder. This corrupted disc
won't play on another player either