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"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com
 
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
<savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com

As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

John
 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.
Umm ... how about computer science?
 
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?
Nothing scientific about that.

John
 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
 
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:01:21 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Charles wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com

As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?

If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer.
"If you don't know, I'm not gonna tell ya! Nanner, nanner!"
</3-year-old>

Kids, can we leave the pissing for somewhare besides s.e.basics?
I fear we're scaring the newbies, and we need all the newbies we can get!
;-)

Thanks,
Rich
 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.
Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

How about physical science?
 
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.
I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.

How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.
Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."

How about physical science?
Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.

John
 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.


How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."


How about physical science?



Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?
http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html
 
Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:01:21 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Charles wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com

As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?

If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer.

"If you don't know, I'm not gonna tell ya! Nanner, nanner!"
/3-year-old

Kids, can we leave the pissing for somewhare besides s.e.basics?
I fear we're scaring the newbies, and we need all the newbies we can get!

He isn't a newbie. He has stated that he is a retired electronics
educator.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
 
Political Science is the art of getting elected, not of doing the job.
 
Greegor wrote:
Political Science is the art of getting elected, not of doing the job.

Then what is the 'science' of keeping some loser from being
re-elected? It took me two lawsuits to keep one from being re-elected,
after he committed fraud, and 'Conversion of Property' by stealing two
vehicles from my business parking lot. I got settlements in both
lawsuits, and the bad publicity kicked him out of the running for an
office he'd held for about 20 years.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.


How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."


How about physical science?



Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html
Waiting ......................
 
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:23:09 -0400, "Charles"
<charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.


How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."


How about physical science?



Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html
Nobody gets a degree called "physical science." They get a gegree in
Physics or Chemistry or some such, from a department of the same name.
Apparently MIT has a "school of physical science", but the actual
disciplines are Physics etc.

The original quote, which wasn't mine, was somewhat facetious, mocking
things like political science and social science and library science,
the point being that real scientists don't use the word "science" in
their departments or degrees, but pseudo-scientists do.

Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.

I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.

What do you do, and what is it called?

John
 
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.


How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there
is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."


How about physical science?



Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html



Nobody gets a degree called "physical science." They get a gegree in
Physics or Chemistry or some such, from a department of the same name.
Apparently MIT has a "school of physical science", but the actual
disciplines are Physics etc.

The original quote, which wasn't mine, was somewhat facetious, mocking
things like political science and social science and library science,
the point being that real scientists don't use the word "science" in
their departments or degrees, but pseudo-scientists do.

Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.
Grim and bitchy?


I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.
Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)

What do you do, and what is it called?
Not relevant.

Why can't one ask a question here and/or posit a few of their own ideas or
advance a different point of view without getting attacked?
 
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:50:52 -0400, "Charles"
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.eeman@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com


As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?


Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing? Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.


How about medical science? Again, some of the research going on there
is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."


How about physical science?



Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

http://web.mit.edu/spectroscopy/research/physicalscience.html



Nobody gets a degree called "physical science." They get a gegree in
Physics or Chemistry or some such, from a department of the same name.
Apparently MIT has a "school of physical science", but the actual
disciplines are Physics etc.

The original quote, which wasn't mine, was somewhat facetious, mocking
things like political science and social science and library science,
the point being that real scientists don't use the word "science" in
their departments or degrees, but pseudo-scientists do.

Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.

Grim and bitchy?
Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?

I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.

Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)

What do you do, and what is it called?

Not relevant.
Of course it is.

Why can't one ask a question here and/or posit a few of their own ideas or
advance a different point of view without getting attacked?
Depends on how you do it.

John
 
Big snip

Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.

Grim and bitchy?

Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?
It's hardly cool and is actually hackneyed.

I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.

Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)

What do you do, and what is it called?

Not relevant.

Of course it is.
OK, if you must know, I am a professor emiritus and once developed and
taught an honor's course titled "Scientific Inquiry."

Why can't one ask a question here and/or posit a few of their own ideas or
advance a different point of view without getting attacked?

Depends on how you do it.
Can't imagine how to do it when folks have such thin skins.

I honestly never meant to offend you! So, with that in mind, I apologize
for my poor communication skills.
 
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:06:40 -0400, "Charles"
<charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

Big snip

Get grim and bitchy if it pleases you. I thought the original
observation was pretty powerful.

Grim and bitchy?

Yes, the pickiness and the waiting............. thing. The
concept was cool, so why not go with it?

It's hardly cool and is actually hackneyed.

I design electronics, and what I do is called engineering.

Thank God you're not a sanitation engineer ;>)

What do you do, and what is it called?

Not relevant.

Of course it is.

OK, if you must know, I am a professor emiritus and once developed and
taught an honor's course titled "Scientific Inquiry."
PE of what?

John
 
On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"





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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
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"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com

As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?

Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing?  Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.



How about medical science?  Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."



How about physical science?

Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.

John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.

George H.
 
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 28, 6:09 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:58:46 -0400, "Charles"





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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:55:24 -0400, "Charles"
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"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Bint-e-Islam
savi.ee...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Subfields of political science"
http://samad-politics.blogspot.com

As PH says, any field of study that includes "science" in its name
isn't one.

Umm ... how about computer science?

Nothing scientific about that.

Nothing?  Perhaps you are unaware of some of the research going on this
area.

I know people who teach computer science. I am unaware of any genuine
scientific (or practical) content. A little math here and there maybe.



How about medical science?  Again, some of the research going on there is
scientific.

Do you mean medicine? Or biology? Or biochemistry? Or oncology? I'm
not sure what "medical science" is. I don't know anyone who calls
themselves a "medical scientist."



How about physical science?

Are you referring to Physics? Chemistry? Optics? Does any university
have a School of Physical Science?

Maybe "Materials Science" is a real science that uses the word
"science." Maybe. But most physicists and chemists would consider it
to be engineering.

John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There was a little bit of science in the 'Earth Science' I took in 9th
grade. I do remeber weighting things in terms of 'beads' and then
making graphs in the note book.

George H.
Most people who actually do "earth science" call themselves
geologists.

John
 

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