Poked a small hole in the rubber sub woofer surround

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While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
 
Casca wrote:

While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
Try vinyl cement. Some supply houses have speaker repair cements.
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Any cement that stays pliable should work.
Bill
 
Casca <joe@mamma.com> wrote in
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While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
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I repaired the surrounds on a couple of speakers with rubber cement. I
would align the broken bits and hold them in position until the glue got
tacky. It doesn't last forever, but ....
 
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:38:13 GMT, Casca <joe@mamma.com> wrote:
Rubber cement is good as was posted.
I've also used silicone and if you can get your hands on some, there's
cold set butyl rubber cement. Some industrial rubber houses carry it.
If you use silicone try and get the most pliant/softest you can find.
Stay away from the liquis silicone used to seal windshield gaskets as
it starts out as a runny liqiud but harderns rock hard.
The cheaper brands of clear all purpose silicone usually used for
light/cold gasket work will do fine. Also aquarium silicone.
Just use a small artists/craft brush and some fine gauze.
Take a small patch of the gauze, just enough to overlapp to the edges
of the hole and give it a light coat of silicone.
Then press it to the hole via the rear of the surround.
Then put a light coat on the front of the hole.
Let dry for several hours.
I've even used this type of silcone to coat the entire surround to
seal it from rot.
It can change the loading characteristics of the woofer, but so far
all I've noticed in mine was a tendency for the woofer to develop a
tighter bass.

While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
Click to expand...
 
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:16:07 -0600, Bill Bolle <mannard1@azalea.net>
wrote:

Casca wrote:

While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
Try vinyl cement. Some supply houses have speaker repair cements.
Any cement that stays pliable should work.
Bill
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Just be careful that the solvents in vinyl cement may dissolve some of
the cheap foam surrounds
 
Is the surround real rubber ? or is it that gray foam . I have seen
alot of glued rubber car woofers and none of the glues used lasted ..
wont adhear to the rubber .
IF it is a very small puncture i would push any rubber bits back in
place to make the hole as flat as possible then apply a very small 2
drops or so of superglue just enough to get into the cracks and not all
over the place .
super glue holds rubber very well but it dries hard thats why only use a
little .
If the puncture or hole is big then superglue is not the answer .
 
For this, a hole in the actual rubber foam crap or whatever it is, I agree with
those who say to use silicone.

However, when the foam gets separated from the basket or the cone, hot glue is
alot better. Generally I have the speaker running at a low level and move the
cone around to be sure it's in the right position. Just tack it with a drop or
two, then turn it up a bit, if it doesn't rub, seal up the rest.

In <u>your</u> case however, use the silicone, VERY sparingly, and just fill
the hole, DO NOT smear it all over the place.

And DO fix it, the air blowing through that hole will cause premature failure
of the foam surround

JURB
 
There are specialized cements that are pliable and made for speakers. I
have had great success with contact cement. GC is one of the manufactures of
contact cement used in the electronics industry. If you call around to some
of the electronics suppliers I am sure you will find something. It is best
to fix it, to maintain the speaker's performance.

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"Casca" &lt;joe@mamma.com&gt; wrote in message
news:po2c00lmf16qlsifj98d4r1tha9fefsanp@4ax.com...
While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
 
Guys,

Thanks so much for all of your suggestions. Great responses indeed.
Since silicone was the most popular answer, I am going to go with
that. I found some 100% aquarium silicon at Home Depot so I'll be
applying it this weekend.

As for the woofer, it is a brand new replacement sub I was putting in
it's new home (speaker cabinet). My damned screwdriver slipped and
poked a hole in the rubbery/foam gray surround. Its actually not a
hole so much as it is a tear somewhat in the shape of an X. The tears
are probably a quarer inch or less. The dont even go across the width
of the foam. I should be ok using the silicone.

Thanks again.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:38:13 GMT, Casca &lt;joe@mamma.com&gt; wrote:

While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
Click to expand...
 
Goodyear rubber cement


"Casca" &lt;joe@mamma.com&gt; wrote in message
news:po2c00lmf16qlsifj98d4r1tha9fefsanp@4ax.com...
While screwing my new subwoofer into it's cabinet, I poked a hole/tore
the rubbery speaker with the screwdriver. The sub still works fine
and doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Anyone know of a good way
to repair the hole?

Thanks to all who answer.
Click to expand...
 
Ok sence we now know its foam not rubber you should be using fabric glue
..
Rubber cement will dry out &amp; crack in time Silcone glue has acids in it
that will eventually eat at the foam .

You can listen to these quick fix garage repair guys or do it right ....
your call .
 
Any suggestions on how to apply the glue.

Thanks

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:18:24 -0700 (MST), goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
wrote:

Ok sence we now know its foam not rubber you should be using fabric glue
.
Rubber cement will dry out &amp; crack in time Silcone glue has acids in it
that will eventually eat at the foam .

You can listen to these quick fix garage repair guys or do it right ....
your call .
Click to expand...
 
In article &lt;1pli00p4cu8svkr7o7afg2fmvdn3bfhrlq@4ax.com&gt;, joe@mamma.com
says...
Any suggestions on how to apply the glue.

Thanks

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:18:24 -0700 (MST), goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
wrote:

Ok sence we now know its foam not rubber you should be using fabric glue
.
Rubber cement will dry out &amp; crack in time Silcone glue has acids in it
that will eventually eat at the foam .

You can listen to these quick fix garage repair guys or do it right ....
your call .


I worked for a speaker repair and radio repair shop and if the hole is
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not to big use a dab of finger nail polish. It works for pin holes and
such.

Kenny
 
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:18:24 -0700 (MST), goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
wrote:
I'm not a "quick fix garage repair guy".
I built custom sound systems for home and theatre application for
nearly four decades.
Go do your research on released volitile compounds in silicone sealant
like I have and you'd know that aquarium silicone sealant is a near
"no acid" compound. It's food grade silicone which means no or less
than 1% VOCS released during cure or during static life. IT HAS to be
safe or else it''d kill the fish.
THERE are cold set rubber solutions for sealing/repairing damaged foam
and rubberized cloth surrounds if one's willing to spend the money.
You have to be in the speaker building/repair industry before they'll
sell them to you and then the minumim purchase is for a gallon can,
usually costing between 70 and 150 bucks depending on whether you buy
the name brand top grade or the cheap no name stuff made in the
pacific rim.
In the old days we'd recone/recoil speakers for custom applications.
I have more than a passing familiarity with all of the materials that
go into building a speaker from the core out to the frame.
Low grade non volitile silicone is a good fix for most of todays foam
surround speakers. Considering that most of even the better name
speakers are built with the cheapest materials with a life expectancy
of 2-4 years of normal use any possible degradation in the foam from
silicone outgassing is the least of one's concern. You'll get more
harmful compounds from regular household carpet or even the glue used
to bind the mdf that makes up the speaker cabinet.
I have a number of large woofers that I rubberized the foam surround
on that are still going strong after several years.
I have cone failure more often than surround breakdown.



Ok sence we now know its foam not rubber you should be using fabric glue
.
Rubber cement will dry out &amp; crack in time Silcone glue has acids in it
that will eventually eat at the foam .

You can listen to these quick fix garage repair guys or do it right ....
your call .
Click to expand...
 
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