pic and stamp

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larry

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Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the component
level...

Larry
 
larry wrote:
Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the component
level...

Larry


Most of the "stamp" products are small boards with a PIC on them,
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although I've seen a "Java stamp" which used a different processor. The
main difference is that the "basic stamp" comes with a PIC that's
preprogrammed to execute basic.

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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
"larry" <larya@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
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Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those
who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the
component
level...

Larry
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What's your objective? Stamps, PIC-stamps, are populair, slow, to be
programmed in Basic, expensive and easy to use. That's to say, compared to
PICs. They can be considered development systems in their own right. PICs on
their own are cheap, fast, programmable in (free) assembler, JAL and several
commercial compilers including C and Basic, need some more skills then a
stamp and require some kind of development system. Designs of the latter are
available for free on the net and can be build cheap. Some commercial (often
called professional) development systems are also available but they tend to
be expensive. Too expensive for personal use most of the times. A good
insight can be found on:
http://www.voti.nl/
IMHO Wouter knows where he's talking about and can provide (almost) all you
need to run PICs.

petrus bitbyter
 
In article <Rq2dnbRMtcC9hSrfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, larry
<larya@rogers.com> wrote:

Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the component
level...

Larry
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Larry--

Look at http://www.parallax.com for a lot of info on stamps. They also
have info on SX series chips. They have lots of detailed information
(in PDFs) on using these parts, including applications.

Stamps:

Pro: relatively high-level programming, fairly easy to get started.

Con: Relatively high cost, relatively low performance.

PICs and SX parts:

Pro: low cost, high(er) performance

Con: Getting the most out of these parts requires you to *think* and
*grok* things at the machine code level.

The use of either family requires that you understand hardware/software
tradeoffs. When you're dealing with parts that don't have native
multiply/divide, or even multi-bit shifts, you have to supply the
brains! You don't have a lot of horsepower to through aw a tolution!

I tend to use stamps for prototyping, and some one-shot projects.

Anything needing performance, or volume, I use a PIC (or an SX part),
but I started doing machine language programming in the 1970's... When
I use these parts, I go right to machine code, bypassing any high-level
languages.

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Namaste--
 
"larry" <larya@rogers.com> escreveu na mensagem
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Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those
who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the
component
level...

Larry
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PIC program in Basic, C and Pascal
 
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:57:56 -0300, in sci.electronics.design
"Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com> wrote:

"larry" <larya@rogers.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Rq2dnbRMtcC9hSrfRVn-vw@rogers.com...
Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those
who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the
component
level...

Larry

PIC program in Basic, C and Pascal

Just wondering who programs in Pascal?
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martin
 
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:19:24 +0200, the renowned martin griffith
<martingriffith@XXyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

PIC program in Basic, C and Pascal

Just wondering who programs in Pascal?
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On a microcontroller, not many people. I have not used it for ages
(last time was a Z80 product that monitored stator temperature on each
phase of huge motors). But Delphi is pretty popular on the PC
platform.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
larry wrote:
Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those who
have used either the stamp or pic...
Click to expand...
Neither. Use an AVR and the free GCC compiler. I started with PICs,
tried AVRs, and I know what I like best :)

Al
 
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:57:56 -0300, in sci.electronics.design
"Fernando" <fjpc60@hotmail.com> wrote:


"larry" <larya@rogers.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:Rq2dnbRMtcC9hSrfRVn-vw@rogers.com...
Greetings

I need some help at deciding which of those microcontrollers to start
out
with...

Does anyone have any webpages where I can see various projects of those
who
have used either the stamp or pic...

I am looking at the ease of programming... .... and has quite a bit of
flexibility of both programing and input and output ports...

I can prototype, assembly components, etc... I was trained at the
component
level...

Larry

PIC program in Basic, C and Pascal

Just wondering who programs in Pascal?
Click to expand...


Go
www.mikroelektronika.co.yu

Fernando
 
A good insight can be found on:
http://www.voti.nl/
Click to expand...
make that http://www.voti.nl/swp


Wouter van Ooijen

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http://www.voti.nl
Webshop for PICs and other electronics
http://www.voti.nl/hvu
Teacher electronics and informatics
 
Just wondering who programs in Pascal?
Click to expand...
I just did a library in Pascal (the 12-leds-on-4-pins trick) for a
customer who wants to use Pascal.


Wouter van Ooijen

-- ------------------------------------
http://www.voti.nl
Webshop for PICs and other electronics
http://www.voti.nl/hvu
Teacher electronics and informatics
 
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:01:29 GMT, wouter@voti.nl (Wouter van Ooijen
(www.voti.nl)) wrote:

Just wondering who programs in Pascal?

I just did a library in Pascal (the 12-leds-on-4-pins trick) for a
customer who wants to use Pascal.
Click to expand...
Ah, yes. The old "two-back-to-back-diodes-per-simplex-edge" trick,
with possible resistors to each vertex.

Jon
 
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