people are so ignorant ...

[Arfa Daily]

Hi all

I used to be a frequent visitor to this group, and everyone on here was
friendly and helpful to one another.

Until a week or so ago, I hadn't been here for a while, but I needed to put
in a request for help, so whilst I was here, I did my usual, and trawled
thru all the postings to see if there was anything I could bring my
considerable and lengthy experience to bear on, and give some help in
return.

I have always done this, as I firmly believe that the only way groups like
this continue to work, is if we all contribute as well as take.

I found four queries to which I was able to give definitive answers, and
considerable additional information, which I spent some time doing.

I don't expect praise, or to have people falling at my feet as some kind of
guru, but a simple thank you for the time and effort put in would be nice.

Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future, neither will I.

Sadly, Geoff


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[Ken Weitzel]

Arfa Daily wrote:

Hi all

I used to be a frequent visitor to this group, and everyone on here was
friendly and helpful to one another.

Until a week or so ago, I hadn't been here for a while, but I needed to put
in a request for help, so whilst I was here, I did my usual, and trawled
thru all the postings to see if there was anything I could bring my
considerable and lengthy experience to bear on, and give some help in
return.

I have always done this, as I firmly believe that the only way groups like
this continue to work, is if we all contribute as well as take.

I found four queries to which I was able to give definitive answers, and
considerable additional information, which I spent some time doing.

I don't expect praise, or to have people falling at my feet as some kind of
guru, but a simple thank you for the time and effort put in would be nice.

Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future, neither will I.

Sadly, Geoff

Hi Geoff...

Perhaps something somewhere had gone awry. I didn't
remember having seen your name (arfa daily) before, so
I searched for it.

I can go back months, and yet there's nothing from you.
Perhaps your mail never went anywhere?

Take care.

Ken

PS - if it's of consequence, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada

 

[Dbowey]

Arfa posted, in part: << Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future,
neither will I. >>


Perhaps you are helping people for the wrong reasons.

Don

 

[Michael Black]

Dbowey (dbowey@aol.com) writes:

Arfa posted, in part: << Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future,
neither will I.


Perhaps you are helping people for the wrong reasons.

Don

That's a good point. I know I've dropped off in the effort I'll go
to respond to a post, but it's not because nobody says thanks. I guess
it's a tiredness of doing it, and sometimes a realization that at least
some of the questions (and I'm talking generally, not just in this newsgroup)
can be answered through books or websearches or even faqs.

I don't read newsgroups to help people. I read because there is something
of interest (often when others reply to someone's question), and then
incidentally reply since I'm here and when there is something I can
add.

Thanks wouldn't really offset the cost of looking something up or
typing in a decent answer. One has to see it more as investing into
a pool, and then withdrawing something at some other time. People who
post ensure that others will stick around, to answer questions that they
can.

On the other hand, it would be nice if people asking questions did close
the feedback loop. You often see thread going on for a long time, but
never a second post from the original poster. Fussing over some fine
detail that wasn't clear from the first post, and if the poster actually
posted a second time they'd help to get a better answer. Or, once something
is solved, a followup from the original poster would be nice because it
might be helpful to others. "Oh, he had that problem just like me. And now
I see that he found a solution that worked. I'll try that."

Michael

 

[hemyd]

I have been reading this group for several years. Wise and helpful people
here have helped me fix problems on numerous occasions. I hope that
sometimes my responses to others' queries have helped them resolve their
problems. Although I have frequently expressed my thanks to people here, I
have never posted here expecting to get thanks. I am certain that very few
people would post for that reason.

Henry
Australia

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:8Dcsc.327$MU2.20@newsfe4-gui...

Hi all

I used to be a frequent visitor to this group, and everyone on here was
friendly and helpful to one another.

Until a week or so ago, I hadn't been here for a while, but I needed to
put
in a request for help, so whilst I was here, I did my usual, and trawled
thru all the postings to see if there was anything I could bring my
considerable and lengthy experience to bear on, and give some help in
return.

I have always done this, as I firmly believe that the only way groups like
this continue to work, is if we all contribute as well as take.

I found four queries to which I was able to give definitive answers, and
considerable additional information, which I spent some time doing.

I don't expect praise, or to have people falling at my feet as some kind
of
guru, but a simple thank you for the time and effort put in would be nice.

Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future, neither will I.

Sadly, Geoff


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[Asimov]

"Dbowey" bravely wrote to "All" (24 May 04 03:57:42)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: people are so ignorant ..."

Db> From: dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey)

Db> Arfa posted, in part: << Not a single one of the four bothered, so in
Db> future, neither will I. >>


Db> Perhaps you are helping people for the wrong reasons.

Then again perhaps we wouldn't like to see the group fill up with
replies like this one with 1 line thank you and 30 lines quoted text:


From: "Fabian Amann" <news@amann.twam.info>
Subject: Re: TDA 3562A
Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:29206

Hello Franc!
Thanks for your answer!

Fabian
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3h82b0ti55gpk0tpjgt6rnu1jv8e5b957o@4ax.com...

On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:53:09 +0200, "Fabian Amann"
news@amann.twam.info> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello!
I've got one question: The TDA 3562A (datasheet available at:
http://elve.le.ttu.ee/~tsamel/datsheet/TDA3562A.pdf) provides, as far as
I
can understand, principal two inputs:
1st: Luminance/Chrominance (SVHS)
2nd: R G B external inputs

How can I switch between these two inputs? Or uses TDA 3562A both inputs
and
will handle it together and will provide "a sum" off at the R G B output
pins?

Has anyone an idea?

Thank you very much!!
Fabian Amann

AFAICS, the RGB inputs could be used for an OSD and would be
enabled/disabled by the Data Blanking Input at pin 9.


- Franc Zabkar
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[sodrd8848]

A simple "thanks" should be common courtesy, especially for those who
do, indeed, have benifitted from the group. This is a common sense in
real life, what not bring this good habit on to the net?


"hemyd" <henspammyd@iinet.net.au> wrote in message news:<40b1d3e2$0$16593$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au>...

I have been reading this group for several years. Wise and helpful people
here have helped me fix problems on numerous occasions. I hope that
sometimes my responses to others' queries have helped them resolve their
problems. Although I have frequently expressed my thanks to people here, I
have never posted here expecting to get thanks. I am certain that very few
people would post for that reason.

Henry
Australia

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:8Dcsc.327$MU2.20@newsfe4-gui...
Hi all

I used to be a frequent visitor to this group, and everyone on here was
friendly and helpful to one another.

Until a week or so ago, I hadn't been here for a while, but I needed to
put
in a request for help, so whilst I was here, I did my usual, and trawled
thru all the postings to see if there was anything I could bring my
considerable and lengthy experience to bear on, and give some help in
return.

I have always done this, as I firmly believe that the only way groups like
this continue to work, is if we all contribute as well as take.

I found four queries to which I was able to give definitive answers, and
considerable additional information, which I spent some time doing.

I don't expect praise, or to have people falling at my feet as some kind
of
guru, but a simple thank you for the time and effort put in would be nice.

Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future, neither will I.

Sadly, Geoff


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[Ken Weitzel]

sodrd8848 wrote:

A simple "thanks" should be common courtesy, especially for those who
do, indeed, have benifitted from the group. This is a common sense in
real life, what not bring this good habit on to the net?

I agree.

One that I noticed recently (though I forget who)
reported success, and sent one message of thanks to all
of those who had offered suggestions.

Good idea.

Ken

offered help.

 

[jakdedert]

Ken Weitzel wrote:

sodrd8848 wrote:

A simple "thanks" should be common courtesy, especially for those who
do, indeed, have benifitted from the group. This is a common sense
in real life, what not bring this good habit on to the net?


I agree.

One that I noticed recently (though I forget who)
reported success, and sent one message of thanks to all
of those who had offered suggestions.

Good idea.

Ken

offered help.

More valuable than common courtesy, a thank you post is evidence that the
suggestion was helpful to the OP. That helps to educate us all...especially
when there was a range of different suggestions.

Success stories are what makes this group tick...

jak

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Mon, 24 May 2004 01:59:24 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

I used to be a frequent visitor to this group, and everyone on here was
friendly and helpful to one another.

Until a week or so ago, I hadn't been here for a while, but I needed to put
in a request for help, so whilst I was here, I did my usual, and trawled
thru all the postings to see if there was anything I could bring my
considerable and lengthy experience to bear on, and give some help in
return.

I have always done this, as I firmly believe that the only way groups like
this continue to work, is if we all contribute as well as take.

I found four queries to which I was able to give definitive answers, and
considerable additional information, which I spent some time doing.

I don't expect praise, or to have people falling at my feet as some kind of
guru, but a simple thank you for the time and effort put in would be nice.

Not a single one of the four bothered, so in future, neither will I.

Sadly, Geoff

My mileage varies. I find that about half of my efforts are
acknowledged. Of course this presumes that *all* of my contributions
are worthy of acknowledgement. ;-)

As for me, I generally thank those who help me, usually by private
email, so if my appreciation isn't evident publicly, then that's why.
However, I do add a public thank you in any technical follow-up to the
newsgroup.

On a final note, I tend to take the philosophical view that what goes
around, comes around. So if the person you have helped, or attempted
to help, has not shown you any gratitude, take solace in the fact that
others may treat you more kindly as a result of your generosity.

BTW, I am aware of your subsequent explanatory post.


- Franc Zabkar
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