PCB layout

[proxy]

Maybe I didn't go a good job of searching, but I don't see much here
about Eagle CAD PCB software. Is this commonly used by people here?

 

[Terry Pinnell]

"proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> wrote:

Maybe I didn't go a good job of searching, but I don't see much here
about Eagle CAD PCB software. Is this commonly used by people here?

Maybe you didn't. A google Web search and News search here on [Eagle
CAD] gave 13,500 and 17,500 hits respectively. Limiting the area of
the latter to the sci.electronics.* newsgroups reduced the number to
1,700 hits. Specifying the target more narrowly to [Eagle CAD PCB
software] gave 449 hits. Of those, 340 appeared in this specific (and
relatively light traffic) group, sci.electronics.cad, as you see here:
http://tinyurl.com/5dbbr

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

 

[vax, 9000]

proxy wrote:

Maybe I didn't go a good job of searching, but I don't see much here
about Eagle CAD PCB software. Is this commonly used by people here?

There was a recent thread at the classiccmp mailing list
(www.classiccmp.org). It seems (my impression) that more people are using
Eagle at home than those who are using other tools.

I am using gEDA tools for my first homebrew PCB board. Not done yet.

vax, 9000

 

[Mike Deblis]

"proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109093339.595360.135000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Regardless, do you have anything to say about Eagle or other PCB layout
software?

Well, if you are using Eagle legally, you could always use the very active
and informative Eagle news groups at news://news.cadsoft.de - all the most
active users and developers hang out there - the archive is complete and
answers most questions.

Look for the *.eng groups if you are an Anglophone.

Mike

 

[DJ Delorie]

rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com> writes:

or other open source alternatives to low cost PCB layout software?

Have you checked out gEDA and PCB? You'll probably end up making your
own footprints, but if you're going to do that anyway...

http://www.geda.seul.org/
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/

Both are in active development, and have been used for a number of
successful projects (like mine: http://www.delorie.com/house/furnace/)

 

[proxy]

DJ Delorie wrote:

Have you checked out gEDA and PCB? You'll probably end up making
your
own footprints, but if you're going to do that anyway...

http://www.geda.seul.org/
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/

Both are in active development, and have been used for a number of
successful projects (like mine:
http://www.delorie.com/house/furnace/)

Those programs run well under Linux, but I can't even find
straightforward info on how to install them under Windows. The
instructions say, do this, do that, but not if you are using Windows.

We Windows users are not accustomed to having to install compilers
before we install a tool.

I looked around quite a bit and FreePCB is the only one out there that
is open source, built for Windows and seems to be usable. Please
correct me if I am wrong.

 

[DJ Delorie]

"proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> writes:

Those programs run well under Linux, but I can't even find
straightforward info on how to install them under Windows.

This is relatively new, for PCB under windows:
http://twiki.twibright.com/bin/view/Main/PCBUnderWindows

We Windows users are not accustomed to having to install compilers
before we install a tool.

I don't think that's limited to Windows users ;-)

Note that the gEDA and PCB developers are split as to whether or not
we *want* to support Windows, but that's mostly a political argument.

 

[Rich Webb]

On 10 Mar 2005 09:44:13 -0800, "proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> wrote:

DJ Delorie wrote:
Have you checked out gEDA and PCB? You'll probably end up making
your
own footprints, but if you're going to do that anyway...

http://www.geda.seul.org/
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/

Both are in active development, and have been used for a number of
successful projects (like mine:
http://www.delorie.com/house/furnace/)

Those programs run well under Linux, but I can't even find
straightforward info on how to install them under Windows. The
instructions say, do this, do that, but not if you are using Windows.

We Windows users are not accustomed to having to install compilers
before we install a tool.

I looked around quite a bit and FreePCB is the only one out there that
is open source, built for Windows and seems to be usable. Please
correct me if I am wrong.

Using Linux does not mean that you have to stop using Windows (although
you may soon find that you want to).

Installing many modern Linux distributions is no harder than booting
from a CD and clicking a few "want this, don't want that" buttons. It's
also easy to move files between Linux and Windows environments.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[proxy]

Terry Pinnell wrote:

"proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> wrote:

Maybe I didn't go a good job of searching, but I don't see much here
about Eagle CAD PCB software. Is this commonly used by people here?

Maybe you didn't. A google Web search and News search here on [Eagle
CAD] gave 13,500 and 17,500 hits respectively. Limiting the area of
the latter to the sci.electronics.* newsgroups reduced the number to
1,700 hits. Specifying the target more narrowly to [Eagle CAD PCB
software] gave 449 hits. Of those, 340 appeared in this specific (and
relatively light traffic) group, sci.electronics.cad, as you see
here:
http://tinyurl.com/5dbbr

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

I'm not sure what your point is. I was trying to open a dialog. The
link you give has lots of hits, but many are not very useful. For
example, the first one includes these two messages, but in a thread
discussing board layout services. Layout software gets a lot of cross
hits.

Regardless, do you have anything to say about Eagle or other PCB layout
software?

 

[Rich Webb]

Run out of cracks? Or perhaps this is someone who has stolen your
identity? (Amazing what Google has in its archives, in't?)

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I was testing Eagle 4.13r1 with a cracked license file and found it
would not reopen a schematic file. I restored the license to the free
version and the file still would not open. I guess the program
recognizes the cracked license, either by checking with the mothership
over the internet, or maybe that license is built in at this point.

I found a more recent cracked license and the schematic still would not
open, but a new schematic was ok. But I am worried about using this
for a design since it may later spot the invalid license and corrupt
the schematic files.

Anyone know how this is happening or how to prevent it? I don't want
to lose a lot of work.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[rickman]

Mike Deblis wrote:

"proxy" <proxynews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109093339.595360.135000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Regardless, do you have anything to say about Eagle or other PCB layout
software?


Well, if you are using Eagle legally, you could always use the very active
and informative Eagle news groups at news://news.cadsoft.de - all the most
active users and developers hang out there - the archive is complete and
answers most questions.

Look for the *.eng groups if you are an Anglophone.

I am more interested in comparisons to other packages, which I don't
expect to get at the Cadsoft group. I have used Eagle (the free
version) and found it hard to learn, but ok once you get the hang of it.
But I last used it over 6 months ago and now I am facing relearning it
all over again. The library stuff was especially painful to learn.
That is why I am considering using the crack. If I use it again and it
does not stick with me this time, I don't want to have to toss $800 down
the tubes. If I decide it is worth the effort of relearning it every
time I do a board, I'll pay the $800.

So does anyone have anything to say about FreePCB or other open source
alternatives to low cost PCB layout software?