PCB CAD

[Don Prescott]

Why do you keep starting new threads, rather than
continuing
posting in the same thread?

Cos' Google says it can't retrieve the original message

Several of your messages could be summed up as saying "all open
source
software sucks, and no commercial organisation would use them for
something important, especially not pcb design".

You're twisting my words and adding your own .....yet again!! I don't
use or like phrases that have a sexual connotations like "sucks", so
PLEASE don't attribute them,in any way, to me...

If you are happy now to retract your previous claims regarding open
source
software in general, and concentrate on specifically pcb design
software,
then that's fair enough. As someone who does schematic design, pcb
design, fpga development and embedded systems programming, I have a
tendancy to lump together a lot more under the heading "EDA" than
just pcb
design.

What is the subject called..."PCB CAD"....! What is this special
interest group...... "electronics CAD"...Is it about servers and apps
in general...No!

Only a half-wit, PHB would not consider using an open source
solution. I
think in the case of pcb design software, as it stands today, few
(outside the very lowest budget users, or those with particular
requirements for openness) would choose it simply because there are
commercial packages that provide a better solution for most uses. In
the
future, as the open source packages develope, then who knows which
will
make the most sense?

Dunno what PHB means.... but at least you agree with what I've been
saying...

My point is not that there are open source pcb design tools available
today that are a good choice for a commercial organisation - they are
not
currently suitable for my own uses, and I doubt if they are suitable
for
more than a small percentage of users. It is merely that the idea of
dismissing open source software out of hand simply because there are
commercial alternatives is absurd - it's an old-fashioned and out of
date
prejudice that is being repeatedly proven unwise in other software
fields.

In conclusion, I very much doubt that open source PCB CAD will be of
interest to many commercial operations for a considerable time yet.

Prescott

 

[David]

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:51:49 -0800, Don Prescott wrote:

Why do you keep starting new threads, rather than
continuing
posting in the same thread?

Cos' Google says it can't retrieve the original message

Strange... I haven't used google for posting, so I wouldn't know. Isn't
it easier to use a newsreader program?

Several of your messages could be summed up as saying "all open
source
software sucks, and no commercial organisation would use them for
something important, especially not pcb design".

You're twisting my words and adding your own .....yet again!! I don't
use or like phrases that have a sexual connotations like "sucks", so
PLEASE don't attribute them,in any way, to me...

Ok - I'm happy to agree that you never used such a word. But most people
here don't read "sucks" as having any sexual connotation, but is simply an
insulting way of saying something is bad - much like calling software
"crashware", and other choice phrases that you *did* use.

If you are happy now to retract your previous claims regarding open
source
software in general, and concentrate on specifically pcb design
software,
then that's fair enough. As someone who does schematic design, pcb
design, fpga development and embedded systems programming, I have a
tendancy to lump together a lot more under the heading "EDA" than
just pcb
design.

What is the subject called..."PCB CAD"....! What is this special
interest group...... "electronics CAD"...Is it about servers and apps
in general...No!

I agree - but other apps turned up in the context of your claiming that
all open source software was inferior, so counter-examples are perfectly
valid.

Only a half-wit, PHB would not consider using an open source
solution. I
think in the case of pcb design software, as it stands today, few
(outside the very lowest budget users, or those with particular
requirements for openness) would choose it simply because there are
commercial packages that provide a better solution for most uses. In
the
future, as the open source packages develope, then who knows which
will
make the most sense?

Dunno what PHB means.... but at least you agree with what I've been
saying...

"Pointy Hair Boss" - are you an engineer who doesn't read Dilbert?? A PHB
is a manager with no understanding of what he is managing, and typically
believes ideas such as that you have to pay for software so that you have
someone to sue if it doesn't work (have you ever read a software license?
You can sue the supplier if the CD is scratched or the pages fall out of
the manual within 3 months, and that's about it).

My point is not that there are open source pcb design tools available
today that are a good choice for a commercial organisation - they are
not
currently suitable for my own uses, and I doubt if they are suitable
for
more than a small percentage of users. It is merely that the idea of
dismissing open source software out of hand simply because there are
commercial alternatives is absurd - it's an old-fashioned and out of
date
prejudice that is being repeatedly proven unwise in other software
fields.

In conclusion, I very much doubt that open source PCB CAD will be of
interest to many commercial operations for a considerable time yet.

I agree mostly, but probably for a shorter interpretation of "considerable".

Prescott