PayPal Sucks...

[Ricky]

I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a suspicious transaction is in process.

I received something like this some time back from Capital One, which turned out to be a fraudulent transaction, several of them in fact. So I don\'t want to blow it off.

However, unlike a real credit card company, Paypal has no 24 hour number to call. No way to contact a person online either. Not even a human chat box.

I\'ll just wait until tomorrow.

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[Pete]

On 30/08/2022 2:19 pm, Ricky wrote:

> However, unlike a real credit card company, Paypal has no 24 hour number to call. No way to contact a person online either. Not even a human chat box.

PayPal definitely have ways to contact them. After you\'ve logged in,
click on Help at the top. Then, at the bottom right, click Get more
help, then scroll down to the bottom of the next screen.

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 12:35:55 AM UTC-4, Pete wrote:

On 30/08/2022 2:19 pm, Ricky wrote:

However, unlike a real credit card company, Paypal has no 24 hour number to call. No way to contact a person online either. Not even a human chat box.
PayPal definitely have ways to contact them. After you\'ve logged in,
click on Help at the top. Then, at the bottom right, click Get more
help, then scroll down to the bottom of the next screen.

Yes, I have tried that. There is no way to contact a human after 7 pm or whatever time they close in your time zone. It\'s like the sign in the window of the diner, \"Our food is not touched by human hands\". The kitchen is staffed by chimpanzees.

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[Martin Brown]

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:

I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It
contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was
sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for
PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly
to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a
suspicious transaction is in process.

Never follow a link from inside a suspicious email. Especially one sent
to an email address you have never used with that company. The way it
went to the fake invoice with no login suggests to me it is a honey trap
and they are doing a man in the middle pretend version of PayPal.com

Go direct to your real Paypal login screen and probe around from there.

Was it really from paypal.com or from paypa1.com easy to miss l vs 1.

or even jhhjfhv.com suitably obfuscated by cunning HTML.

I received something like this some time back from Capital One, which
turned out to be a fraudulent transaction, several of them in fact.
So I don\'t want to blow it off.

However, unlike a real credit card company, Paypal has no 24 hour
number to call. No way to contact a person online either. Not even
a human chat box.

I\'ll just wait until tomorrow.

There is a contact us button somewhere you just have to find it.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 4:54:46 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It
contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was
sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for
PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly
to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a
suspicious transaction is in process.
Never follow a link from inside a suspicious email. Especially one sent
to an email address you have never used with that company. The way it
went to the fake invoice with no login suggests to me it is a honey trap
and they are doing a man in the middle pretend version of PayPal.com

Go direct to your real Paypal login screen and probe around from there.

I had to open the email and click the link to see what it was about. After that, I started at paypal.com. However, the webpage the invoice was on was also paypal.com/.

Was it really from paypal.com or from paypa1.com easy to miss l vs 1.

or even jhhjfhv.com suitably obfuscated by cunning HTML.
I received something like this some time back from Capital One, which
turned out to be a fraudulent transaction, several of them in fact.
So I don\'t want to blow it off.

However, unlike a real credit card company, Paypal has no 24 hour
number to call. No way to contact a person online either. Not even
a human chat box.

I\'ll just wait until tomorrow.
There is a contact us button somewhere you just have to find it.

Some people don\'t pay attention. I found the contact page. There was no human to respond. No one to answer a phone. No one to reply to a chat message. They all said contact us during business hours.

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[TTman]

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
> I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a suspicious transaction is in process.

Strange that you didn\'t get asked to login... bizarre




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[Ricky]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:54:11 AM UTC-4, TTman wrote:

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a suspicious transaction is in process.
Strange that you didn\'t get asked to login... bizarre

I\'ve seen that with other web sites. They will provide you with a web page, but to go further, you have to log in.

Others are pathological, where they take you to the home page to login, then you have no context for where the link was supposed to take you. You have to use the email a second time to reach the right page after you\'ve logged in.

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[Johann Klammer]

On 08/30/2022 10:54 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It
contains a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was
sent to an email address that is not currently the email used for
PayPal. Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly
to the page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a
suspicious transaction is in process.

Never follow a link from inside a suspicious email. Especially one sent to an email address you have never used with that company. The way it went to the fake invoice with no login suggests to me it is a honey trap and they are doing a man in the middle pretend version of PayPal.com

Go direct to your real Paypal login screen and probe around from there.

Was it really from paypal.com or from paypa1.com easy to miss l vs 1.

or even jhhjfhv.com suitably obfuscated by cunning HTML.

...punycode.. the /turkish i/ etc....

 

[Martin Brown]

On 30/08/2022 14:54, TTman wrote:

On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal.  It contains
a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing.  But it was sent to an
email address that is not currently the email used for PayPal.
Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly to the
page with the invoice, with no login.  Still, it is claiming a
suspicious transaction is in process.

Strange that you didn\'t get asked to login... bizarre

That smacks of honey trap.

Show the punter a fake invoice on not the real site then get them to
login using their actual Paypal credentials on the fake site.

Use those to login to the actual Paypal site and reflect that content
back to the punter. Classic man-in-the-middle attack.

I can spot incoming fake Paypal messages a mile off.
My default language on them is not English.

The ones that worry me are the fake courier could not deliver msgs which
are now extremely good copies of real communications and I get enough of
them that sooner or later I will fall for a fake one when in a hurry and
expecting something from that particular courier.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

On 30/08/2022 14:54, TTman wrote:
On 30/08/2022 05:19, Ricky wrote:
I received a suspicious email claiming to be from PayPal. It contains
a link to a Paypal address, so not phishing. But it was sent to an
email address that is not currently the email used for PayPal.
Another odd thing, is the link in the email took me directly to the
page with the invoice, with no login. Still, it is claiming a
suspicious transaction is in process.

Strange that you didn\'t get asked to login... bizarre
That smacks of honey trap.

Show the punter a fake invoice on not the real site then get them to
login using their actual Paypal credentials on the fake site.

Except they never asked me to log in. So no collecting log in info.

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[Don Y]

On 8/30/2022 8:40 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

I can spot incoming fake Paypal messages a mile off.
My default language on them is not English.

I keep separate email accounts for different \"people\". So, I
don\'t expect messages from X on account Y; this does a bit to
draw attention to fishing attempts (and have different \"identities\"
on different e-commerce accounts).

The ones that worry me are the fake courier could not deliver msgs which are
now extremely good copies of real communications and I get enough of them that
sooner or later I will fall for a fake one when in a hurry and expecting
something from that particular courier.

Where I am vulnerable is folks whose email accounts get hacked. So,
\"Ray\" sends me an email -- using the email address on which I expect
to receive emails *from* Ray -- that turns out to be a fishing scam.

[I chose \"Ray\" because \"Ray\" was recently hacked and \"sent\" me a scam
email. But, the sob story -- a request for funds -- was so completely
unlike him and had so many caveats (\"Don\'t call cuz I\'ve lost my phone\")
that it was an obvious forgery. The fact that the reply to header
was \"Ray1\" instead of \"Ray\" sealed the deal. \"Sorry to hear about
your troubles! Why don\'t I bring the *CASH* over to your place? I
can be there in 10 minutes and you can show me the new digs...\" Ooops!
Scammer failed to say \"Don\'t come to the house cuz I\'m not there\"]

Sadly, \"enough\" people get caught by this sort of thing. (his ex-wife
did!)