Panel mounted RJ45 sockets.

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Lostgallifreyan

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Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use credit
cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large specialised
IP rated stuff...
 
Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...
Click to expand...
Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.
Click to expand...
I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in
mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPageName=
STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX
scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.
 
On 30/04/2010 13:19, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use credit
cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large specialised
IP rated stuff...
Click to expand...
Google "keystone jack"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_module

CPC sell them, and a 'housing'.

--
Adrian C
 
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in
mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPageName=
STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX
scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.
Click to expand...

Cut up a wall plate made to hold the modular jacks. Then use a couple
screws to mount it to the rear of the panel.

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=4844&section=10423&minisite=10026>
is an example that use modular jacks.

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=401991&section=22229&minisite=10026>
is one piece plastic.

They also have steel plates:

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=408993&section=10420&minisite=10026>
They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

This is a US company, but you should be able to find something
similar.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that
in mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPage
Name= STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a
panel. Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't
all over the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting.
Even the ITX scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't
got this sorted yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers
supply them, never mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these
choices. It's all specialised panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very
cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts exist, but rare, expensive even for
the most basic. The only firm I found that makes them with practical
results has to make their own and probably won't sell to the public.
That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll likely ever get, let
alone cheaply.


Cut up a wall plate made to hold the modular jacks. Then use a couple
screws to mount it to the rear of the panel.

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=4844&section=10
423&minisite=10026> is an example that use modular jacks.

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=401991&section=
22229&minisite=10026> is one piece plastic.

They also have steel plates:

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=408993&section=
10420&minisite=10026> They list this for telephone use, but their
telephone jacks are the same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

This is a US company, but you should be able to find something
similar.
Click to expand...
That too I wanted to avoid, but it is a good idea. Thanks for the linkage. If
the eBay ones I found end up being tacky I'll look at this next.
 
Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in
news:840938Fb0tU1@mid.individual.net:

On 30/04/2010 13:19, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Google "keystone jack"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_module

CPC sell them, and a 'housing'.
Click to expand...
Interesting. While it might not best solve my current need, the fact that it
adapts so many types neatly makes it one to check out so I will, though it
appears I might lose the advantage of small fittings to large plates. :)

In the end there's no real substitute for the classic jack hole and two
mounting screws thing. The eBay find is nice because a strip of metal and a
drill is all I need to turn it into that. (Part of the 'cost' of a thing is
finding a way to get it to me, and this is easiest so far).
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.
Click to expand...
That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.
 
Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff
too.
Click to expand...
If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.
Click to expand...

Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
Baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrffvr$grp$1@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff
too.

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.
Click to expand...
Nice offer. Thanks. I'm ok though, those things I found on eBay are nice,
they just need clamping somehow, no soldering or crimping or anything. I'm
using them to take the stress off an ITX board in a 1U rack case so it can
be reconfigured often, reliably, so if it plugs without extra fitting, so
much the better.

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix, then I
do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years... >:)
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.
Click to expand...
Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary thinking
beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of a chassis
mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.
 
Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrffvr$grp$1@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone
stuff too.

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates
as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.


Nice offer. Thanks. I'm ok though, those things I found on eBay are
nice, they just need clamping somehow, no soldering or crimping or
anything. I'm using them to take the stress off an ITX board in a 1U
rack case so it can be reconfigured often, reliably, so if it plugs
without extra fitting, so much the better.

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix,
then I do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years...
:)
Click to expand...
Sorry ! Fraid not... I haven't done anything with a band for nearly 50
years... ;-)

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com:


Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.



Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary thinking
beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of a chassis
mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.
Click to expand...

I know they had problems finding something 10 years ago at Microdyne
for their RCB-2000 & DR-2000 Telemetry systems. They finally found
something, but the company would only sell them as part of a custom
harness.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
Baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hri1gj$2lq$1@news.eternal-september.org:

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix,
then I do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years...
:)

Sorry ! Fraid not... I haven't done anything with a band for nearly 50
years... ;-)
Click to expand...
Ok. :) Well, it's a good name.
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:Nf6dnWEMU840BEHWnZ2dnUVZ_hmmnZ2d@earthlink.com:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com:


Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are
the same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone
stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some
brands
aren't interchangeable.



Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary
thinking beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of
a chassis mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.


I know they had problems finding something 10 years ago at Microdyne
for their RCB-2000 & DR-2000 Telemetry systems. They finally found
something, but the company would only sell them as part of a custom
harness.
Click to expand...
That can sometimes be the cheapest way. One man's module is another man's
whole device. :) I needed a PCI cable extender... I found a US who could sell
me one a foot long at $30 plus $12 or more for shipping. By the time I got it
I'd have been paying tax on it too. On eBay I found a 'hiper' PCI riser cable
fitting in the UK for a dedicated box (same thing is available in the US). It
has a black PCB too, very slick. Easy to trim with a carbide saw, the plugs
stand opening and reusing so all I needed was cable. Total cost less than a
tenth what the other one would cost, and it is far better quality. Digikey
have that very fine pitch ribbon cable stranded as I want it. Actually
neither the stranded or solid core fine-pitch cable is cheap, so if people
want lots of foot-lengths of 60 way cables (or anything 80 or less) the
cheapest method by far is to buy them ready made for computers complete with
(totally unreusable) connectors, because they are easily found in any
quantity for a quarter or less than their raw cable cost! Continued supply on
this basis is almost guaranteed for many years.
 
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:28:21 -0500, Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net>
wrote:

baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in
mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPageName>STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX
scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.
Click to expand...
Here on 'tother side the pond this kind of stuff is readily available in
snap in style mounts:

http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring

Does any of this come close?
 
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:legst5533d7ki48936jpr0h33a867ngb84@4ax.com:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:28:21 -0500, Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net
wrote:

baron <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2@news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in

mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPa
geName>STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a
panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all
over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX

scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this
sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them,
never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all
specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I
found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and
probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as
I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.

Here on 'tother side the pond this kind of stuff is readily available in
snap in style mounts:

http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring

Does any of this come close?
Click to expand...
No, because it's exactly the thing I want to avoid. It's good stuff but it IS
the design, whereas what I'm after is stuff that neatly fit into existing
designs. Very few makers of RJ45 sockets have given any thought to that
except for PCB mounting. Neutrik have made a decent panel mount jack but it's
too big for confined spaces. I found an answer on eBay, a short (0.5 m) cable
extension. I'll have to make some kind of bulkhead/panel clamp but all the
connecting it needs is already done, I just plug things in with it. The best
answer of all was similar, but a foot long and with two close-set mounting
holes, one each side. Didn't look like it was for one-off public sale though,
at any cost.

People have been mounting panel switches and other connectors for decades
that way. RJ45 makers only seem to think of panels when they think the buyer
wants ease of fitting them 48 at a time, minimum, they seem to have little if
any concept of fitting one to an existing design where the smallest and most
simple of standards applies. (Marking and drilling round holes).
 
Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:Xns9D6A878E143E1zoodlewurdle@216.196.109.145:

In case anyone else comes this way looking for an answer, this was mine:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0-5m-Network-EXTENSION-Lead-Cat5E-RJ45-Ethernet-Cable-
/350331980372?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item51916
9ca54

Or try http://preview.tinyurl.com/33oyjff if word wrap wrecks the URL above.
As eBay links expire, look for seller "kenable_ltd", they're a HUGE seller,
with good record, so they ought to stick around unless they choose not to...

Then search their shop for Ethernet Network Extension Cable. Look for the
shortest you need, they go down to 0.5m. They have CAT 5E cable with plug and
socket on them. The socket is a square grey lump 21mm * 21mm * 27mm deep, and
is fairly easy to drill with a 3mm bore, 4mm from each edge in each of two
corners where the volume of the slightly bungy grey stuff allows it. Fixing
centres will be 13 mm apart. It's best to drill right through the 27 mm
depth, so hold the socket accurately... Unless you are very very bad at
accurate drilling, you won't damage any internal wiring. Then use long M3
bolts and nuts to clamp the socket to the chassis. (Don't rely on self-
tapping, the bungy stuff isn't resilient enough to be retained firmly for
long that way. It won't crap out, but it will work loose annoyingly often).

What makes this worth doing is that it's the cheapest way by far, there is no
soldering, no crimping, no cable handling at all except to lay it where you
want it inside the equipment. It also occupies far less panel space that ALL
other methods I found, and the result is very tidy. If you find a better way,
do it, but that might not be easy, it hasn't been easy for over a decade, so
it isn't likely to get easy now, unless customised ITX cases become an
industry on the scale of that catering for overclockers. It might happen, but
doing it this way is just a tad easier and more certain to work.
 
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:Xns9D6A878E143E1zoodlewurdle@216.196.109.145:

In case anyone else comes this way looking for an answer, this was mine:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0-5m-Network-EXTENSION-Lead-Cat5E-RJ45-Ethernet-Cable-
/350331980372?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item51916
9ca54

Or try http://preview.tinyurl.com/33oyjff if word wrap wrecks the URL above.
As eBay links expire, look for seller "kenable_ltd", they're a HUGE seller,
with good record, so they ought to stick around unless they choose not to...

Then search their shop for Ethernet Network Extension Cable. Look for the
shortest you need, they go down to 0.5m. They have CAT 5E cable with plug and
socket on them. The socket is a square grey lump 21mm * 21mm * 27mm deep, and
is fairly easy to drill with a 3mm bore, 4mm from each edge in each of two
corners where the volume of the slightly bungy grey stuff allows it. Fixing
centres will be 13 mm apart. It's best to drill right through the 27 mm
depth, so hold the socket accurately... Unless you are very very bad at
accurate drilling, you won't damage any internal wiring. Then use long M3
bolts and nuts to clamp the socket to the chassis. (Don't rely on self-
tapping, the bungy stuff isn't resilient enough to be retained firmly for
long that way. It won't crap out, but it will work loose annoyingly often).

What makes this worth doing is that it's the cheapest way by far, there is no
soldering, no crimping, no cable handling at all except to lay it where you
want it inside the equipment. It also occupies far less panel space that ALL
other methods I found, and the result is very tidy. If you find a better way,
do it, but that might not be easy, it hasn't been easy for over a decade, so
it isn't likely to get easy now, unless customised ITX cases become an
industry on the scale of that catering for overclockers. It might happen, but
doing it this way is just a tad easier and more certain to work.
Click to expand...

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=8183



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