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F Murtz

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In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I
want to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question
is almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a
select few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly
want to know or be trusted with the info.
 
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d380156$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I want
to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question is
almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a select
few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly want to know
or be trusted with the info.
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There's a famous scifi story about a guy who comes across a computer on a
faraway planet that 'knows everything'. He eagerly starts asking it
questions, but the only response it comes back with is 'Don't understand the
question'. In the end he works out that in order to ask a meaningful
question, you need to know most of the answer already.
 
Grid Leak wrote:
"F Murtz"<haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d380156$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I want
to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question is
almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a select
few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly want to know
or be trusted with the info.

Try putting the word "tutorial" in the search string.


Thanks, I found more interesting stuff but not what I wanted.
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I did find "how to preserve deer tails" which is a help.
I even tried,"tutorial how to preserve horse tails"
And got everything other than a real answer. Wash and hang up is the
nearest.
If I wanted to paint hair or tails or plait tails or anything other than
preserving hair and skin I am home and hosed.
 
On Jan 20, 7:33 pm, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I
want to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question
is almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a
select few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly
want to know or be trusted with the info.
Click to expand...
exactly
 
F Murtz wrote:

In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I
want to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question
is almost impossible.
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There's your problem. If you ask nicely and expect to have your answer
delivered on a silver platter, you're going to be disappointed.

It's all in the way you ask the question.


Say for instance you have a question regarding temperature on a linear
regulator.
Asking "why is my 7805 running hot" it not likely to get you any responses.

On the other hand, if you were to re-word the question like this:
"I have a 7805 running at an amp with no heatsink and it's cool as a
cucumber"

Then you WILL get many responses...


Or, perhaps closer to your question, if you phrased it like spam,
offering your tail tanning services for some rude price, *THEN* you're
likely to get responses.

Sure, most of them would be along the lines of insults, but at least
one of them will say "You're a rip-off merchant charging those prices,
you should be slaughtered, hung and dried, and besides,
www.InsertWebSiteHere.com has tutorials on how to do it cheaply and
effectively yourself."

It's all in the way you ask the question. :)
--
The whole world is about three drinks behind
 
"John Tserkezis"
On the other hand, if you were to re-word the question like this:
"I have a 7805 running at an amp with no heatsink and it's cool as a
cucumber"

Then you WILL get many responses...
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** OK - what is your answer ?

The part is fucked ??


..... Phil
 
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d380156$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I want
to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question is
almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a select
few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly want to know
or be trusted with the info.

Try putting the word "tutorial" in the search string.
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yeah , u ALWAYS get retards that say , " buy a new one , why u wanna do
that for?, etc.... "

maybe u wanna do it your way , get more experiance with differant things
etc...



"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d380156$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I want
to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question is
almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a select
few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly want to know
or be trusted with the info.
Click to expand...
 
Phil Allison wrote:

On the other hand, if you were to re-word the question like this:
"I have a 7805 running at an amp with no heatsink and it's cool as a
cucumber"
Then you WILL get many responses...

** OK - what is your answer ?
The part is fucked ??
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No Phil. If you recall, the 78xx series have over temperature
shutdown. Of course, that is assuming the surrounding gear can deal
with the temperature before it shuts down.

On the other hand, the non-tanned horse tail, just in case you didn't
already know, does NOT have over temperature shutdown, and will suffer
permanent damage.
Interestingly enough, the *tanned* horsetail has slightly modified
temperature characteristics compared to the original. But I don't know
of anyone who has willingly taken advantage of that phenomenon.

Ok, now what were you talking about? Ah who cares.
--
Thy logick, like thy locks, is disarrayed;
 
John Tserkezis wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

On the other hand, if you were to re-word the question like this:
"I have a 7805 running at an amp with no heatsink and it's cool as a
cucumber"
Then you WILL get many responses...

** OK - what is your answer ?
The part is fucked ??

No Phil. If you recall, the 78xx series have over temperature
shutdown. Of course, that is assuming the surrounding gear can deal
with the temperature before it shuts down.

On the other hand, the non-tanned horse tail, just in case you didn't
already know, does NOT have over temperature shutdown, and will suffer
permanent damage.
Interestingly enough, the *tanned* horsetail has slightly modified
temperature characteristics compared to the original. But I don't know
of anyone who has willingly taken advantage of that phenomenon.

Ok, now what were you talking about? Ah who cares.
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In a past life when I was younger I built a .222 by modifying a .310
martini, hand loaded my shells shot kangaroos on the odd ocasion (for
dog food) skinned same and tanned them all on my lonesome ,so I daresay
I will get around my tail problem.
I was using it as an indication of what the modern search engine has
done to what used to be a very useful research tool (the web) and now is
almost impossible unless you are the common denominator.
 
F Murtz wrote:

In a past life when I was younger I built a .222 by modifying a .310
martini, hand loaded my shells shot kangaroos on the odd ocasion (for
dog food) skinned same and tanned them all on my lonesome ,so I daresay
I will get around my tail problem.
I was using it as an indication of what the modern search engine has
done to what used to be a very useful research tool (the web) and now is
almost impossible unless you are the common denominator.
Click to expand...
The change in the "modern" search engine is not quite the change you imply.
It is actually in a continuous state of change.

Couple that with the phenomenal amount of crap that's been added with
time, you end up with results that are not quite what you're after,
compared with 'yesteryear'.

First thing to do is sit down and have a read of Google's (or whichever
browser you're using) boolean directives, then read around and see how
the engine's primary results are geared. Sure it's clear they're biased
towards ads, but there's more to it than that.

At the end of the day, sometimes you need to spend some time looking,
and you certainly have to wade through lots of crap before you get to
the good stuff, but you do get there...
--
The moral majority is neither.
 
John Tserkezis wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

In a past life when I was younger I built a .222 by modifying a .310
martini, hand loaded my shells shot kangaroos on the odd ocasion (for
dog food) skinned same and tanned them all on my lonesome ,so I daresay
I will get around my tail problem.
I was using it as an indication of what the modern search engine has
done to what used to be a very useful research tool (the web) and now is
almost impossible unless you are the common denominator.

The change in the "modern" search engine is not quite the change you imply.
It is actually in a continuous state of change.

Couple that with the phenomenal amount of crap that's been added with
time, you end up with results that are not quite what you're after,
compared with 'yesteryear'.

First thing to do is sit down and have a read of Google's (or whichever
browser you're using) boolean directives, then read around and see how
the engine's primary results are geared. Sure it's clear they're biased
towards ads, but there's more to it than that.

At the end of the day, sometimes you need to spend some time looking,
and you certainly have to wade through lots of crap before you get to
the good stuff, but you do get there...
Click to expand...

In past times a few strategically placed plusses minusses and quotation
marks would do wonders, now you need pages of them to even slightly
reduce your results.
 
On 20/01/2011 8:33 PM, F Murtz wrote:
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I
want to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question
is almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a
select few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly
want to know or be trusted with the info.
Click to expand...
It is called search engine optimisation, and companies are paying a
fortune to get their product to the top of the list. Unfortunately, this
means that the interesting answers are buried way down.
 
"John Tserkezis"
Phil Allison wrote:

On the other hand, if you were to re-word the question like this:
"I have a 7805 running at an amp with no heatsink and it's cool as a
cucumber"
Then you WILL get many responses...

** OK - what is your answer ?

The part is fucked ??

No Phil. If you recall, the 78xx series have over temperature
shutdown.
Click to expand...
** Sure - it comes into play at about 145C chip temp.
And fucking sits there - you fucking IMBECILE !!!



...... Phil
 
F Murtz wrote:
In the old days of the www and before I could ask a simple technical
question and get an answer, today I can only get what others think I
want to know, (mostly commercial crap).
Trying to phrase a question in a way to get the answers to my question
is almost impossible.
Try this,say you have a couple of fresh horse tails complete with skin
sitting in salt and you wish to know what to do next,(tanning? treating
washing etc) easy, just ask in every conceivable way,you will only get
others wanting to sell already finished product and all sorts of waffle
not related to the mechanics of the problem.
It must be because us individuals would not ever want to know such
things,it must be secret information only allowed to be known by a
select few and the net in all its wisdom thinks I could not possibly
want to know or be trusted with the info.
Click to expand...

Just had another bout with google.
Just found three certificates of my ancient mother from the phonographic
society for "the theory of phonography" from the 1930s
I decided to ask google, after pages of crap I decided could not be what
I was after I found a small reference which prompted other queries
and I have nutted out it they were for pitmans phonetic shorthand.
 
Phil Allison wrote:

Then you WILL get many responses...

** OK - what is your answer ?
The part is fucked ??

No Phil. If you recall, the 78xx series have over temperature
shutdown.

** Sure - it comes into play at about 145C chip temp.
And fucking sits there - you fucking IMBECILE !!!
Click to expand...
Holy crap you're stupid. I was using the 7805 as a metaphor.

I just fed you the over temperature crap afterwards to stir you.

Hey look, it worked!
--
They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
 
"John Tserkezis is a Fucking LIAR "
Then you WILL get many responses...

** OK - what is your answer ?

The part is fucked ??

No Phil. If you recall, the 78xx series have over temperature
shutdown.

** Sure - it comes into play at about 145C chip temp.

And fucking sits there - you fucking IMBECILE !!!

Holy crap you're stupid.
Click to expand...

** Jesus Christ alive -

YOU ARE one fucked in the head wog CUNT !!



I was using the 7805 as a metaphor.
Click to expand...

** Nope - you are now just stupidly trying to LIE your way our of
another pile of STINKING SHIT that came straight out your arse and you are
drowning in.

Eat shit and die - wog pig.



..... Phil
 
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