OT: Welcome to Sh*thole London (and you are!)

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This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVJw1-YrkM&t=182s




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I do not need the vid, I already know what is up over there. I have sources you can't even dream of. Intelligencia and one percenters.

The rank and file is about sick of the EU, mostly immigrants kinda forced on them. Couple other things.

You want some ammo ? Take out from your mind now...

The west, meaning the US, UK and Israel installed their government in Ukraine. In case you didn't know. Ukraine was the breadbasket of the region. They had the most fertile land and fed plenty, no matter the Soviets starved them which of course endeared them to those Jews. And the were. I f the truth in anti-Semitic then so the fuck what. (if you do not know the Soviets were Ashkenazi you have no business talking politics with me)

Things are not exactly as they seem .

I am going to tell you this - ONCE - the Ashkenazis want everyone to be brown so they are the only ones with white skin. But they are no White and never will be. There is a difference. We have certain values and whatever, They do not no matter their skin color. I know more about it than I actually wanted, but now I am stick with it.

I am seriously advanced.

A sample;

Why didn't Obama act on Assad ? Seymour Hersch, one of the foremost knowledgeable people on the planet, found that Assad didn't use the gas when they accused him. This is confirmed by Porton Down. Look them up.

I don't fuck around. They all believe what they're told. Not me.

You got potential; IF you get the proper guidance. You have not fallen into the pit with all the others. The capability of independent though in such matter is, well valuable.

Email me, I can help. I mean it. If you can't get it it is JURB6006 at gmail. You know how to put that together.

I'll teach you things, I mean not like in school. Anyone ever lie to you ? I can tell you, no that is hard, if you were here I could show you how to to make it so you know if they are lying even before they start. I have been right every time.

And techniques ? I am not even going into that out here. Ask a question and listen VERY carefuly to the answer and watch their body language and eyes.

They have no idea who they fuck with. I haven't lost since I was five years old.

Alright, let's go here. I was seven or eight, like second grade in this country and I had zero use for school. So the "counseling".

"Do you respect your teachers ?"
"Well I think everyone deserves some respect, even a newborn baby".

Think about that. AT SEVEN YEARS OLD I INSULTED THEM AND THEY DID NOT KNOW IT.

Let me spell it out for you. these [people had been to college and had degrees and whatever, and I just told them that I give them as much respect as newborn baby. My Mother was there so I have a witness.

You have no idea what I am. I will take ahold of the skin on your shoulder and slam your head into the wall four or five times to make toy more a agreeable.

In my organization I never ask anyone to kill. If I can't do it I ain't a Man. Can't have that.

Very few can understand, but I DID break through all the media bullshit. I know what is REALLY going on.

You got enough to get to my email, do it. On the group here there was a question I wanted to ask and now I fucking forgot it !

So just mail me. I'll show you.

T^T
 
jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
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The west, meaning the US, UK and Israel installed their government
in Ukraine.

You, sir <sic> are a goddamnewd idiot.
 
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote...
jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:b71b4870-bd1d-4dd1-b1ec-b424311d9737@googlegroups.com:

The west, meaning the US, UK and Israel installed their government
in Ukraine.

You, sir <sic> are a goddamnewd idiot.

goddamnewd, cool. Gotta check that out.


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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

Why on earth anybody should respect English culture escapes me. What on earth is supposed to be special about it?

Cursitor Doom presumably likes it because it is the only ome he knows, but his grasp of it appears to be remarkably weak, and if he were a representative of English culture, it would not be worthy of any respect at all.

Happily, he isn't. Gullible right-wing twits do exist in the UK, as they do in most places, but they are thin enough on the ground that one can usually discount them.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times.

At 2:30 in particular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehGhwfd4sM

Why on earth anybody should respect English culture escapes me. What on
earth is supposed to be special about it?

It is certainly preferable to the massive influx of a culture that stones
woman to death for adultery, engages in FGM, has a death penalty for those
that leave its culture, has a death penalty for those that actively disagree
with its culture, is a culture that has a fundamental goal of implementing
its culture, irrespective of freedom, democracy and equality in the culture
it encroaches on.

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 6:26:20 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:6cf5c0b4-e0f4-4df2-8065-375b96c12ff1@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times.

Numbers?

> At 2:30 in particular

U-tube links aren't evidence, and I'm not going to waste my time waiting for whatever it was you thought I ought to see.

Why on earth anybody should respect English culture escapes me. What on
earth is supposed to be special about it?

It is certainly preferable to the massive influx of a culture that stones
woman to death for adultery, engages in FGM, has a death penalty for those
that leave its culture, has a death penalty for those that actively disagree
with its culture, is a culture that has a fundamental goal of implementing
its culture, irrespective of freedom, democracy and equality in the culture
it encroaches on.

If the only defense of English culture is that it isn't as bad some other specific culture which has even worse defects, you've conceded the case.

If English culture was as superior as you seem to think, the Muslim immigrants to England would stop killing apostates and female adulterers, and start drinking tea and admiring morally challenged dimwits like Boris Johnson because he'd been to Eton.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
From: Bill Sloman
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:48 AM
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Welcome to Sh*thole London (and you are!)

On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 6:26:20 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:6cf5c0b4-e0f4-4df2-8065-375b96c12ff1@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehGhwfd4sM

But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times.

Numbers?

Quote 2:30

“There has been a [claim] that this country has always been a nation of
immigrants...that is not true... for most of the history of this countries
history there has been a very homogeneous group of people on these Islands.
.... and the idea now that what is happening now is what has always happened
is simply a fib...and you have to look for this... and a good example...
50,0000 Huguenots came to this country in the period 1680 onward... now
50,000 Huguenots over a period of years was equal to about 2 months
immigration in the 1990s.


At 2:30 in particular

U-tube links aren't evidence, and I'm not going to waste my time waiting
for whatever it was you thought I ought to see.

This is a video of a debate at Oxford University Union. Its certainly
evidence of the views presented at reputable academic institutions.

In other words, “I am unable to refute the known fact that ~ 1/2 the
population of London is foreign born”. That is, around 4 million. Its simply
stunning.

1/2 the population of the largest, capital city of a nation has been
replaced in about 30 years with no mandate from the existing population.

Blair and labour opened up the flood gates to change the makeup of the UK to
those statistically more likely to vote Labour, irrespective of the damage
it has done to the existing population.

"rub the Right's nose in diversity"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3593872/17bn-true-cost-immigration-UK-year.html

Its actually, worse. It doesn't account for housing land area taken up.

You know its a stickup to the indigenous masses when officials in government
try to fob people off with that ”we need more immigrants to care for the
aging population”. So..., lets say it takes 5 immigrants to give 20% of
their earnings to support an oldie. Those immigrants get old, hence each one
requires 5 apiece...the following generation needs 125... its totally
insane.

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own culture.

Kevin Aylward
kevin@kevinaylward.co.uk
www.kevinaylward.co.uk
 
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:57:28 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Nor anything else for that matter - excepting only Cultural Marxist
Frankfurt School dogma.

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own
culture.

Sloman is just an arsehole, Kev. You're attempting to debate with a
bigoted, know-nothing arsehole. You will get nowhere.



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On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 8:56:49 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:57:28 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Nor anything else for that matter - excepting only Cultural Marxist
Frankfurt School dogma.

I do know enough to be aware that the Cultural Marxist Frankfurt school isn't the bogyman that the rabid right likes to claim.

Its appearance in a debate suggests that the source is going to start going on about about racial purity and Western values.

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own
culture.

Kevin does seem have been badly frighten by a Muslim when young.

Sloman is just an arsehole, Kev. You're attempting to debate with a
bigoted, know-nothing arsehole. You will get nowhere.

One of our more ignorant know-nothing arseholes is counselling someone who is merely bigoted. Kevin Aylward has been posting here for quite a lot longer than Cursitor Doom, and he and I have debated stuff before. His current anti-Muslim obsession is relatively recent, and he does have useful knowledge in other areas, which is more than can be said for Cursitor Doom.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 4:57:31 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
From: Bill Sloman
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:48 AM
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Welcome to Sh*thole London (and you are!)

On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 6:26:20 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:6cf5c0b4-e0f4-4df2-8065-375b96c12ff1@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehGhwfd4sM


But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times.

Numbers?

Quote 2:30

“There has been a [claim] that this country has always been a nation of
immigrants...that is not true... for most of the history of this countries
history there has been a very homogeneous group of people on these Islands.
... and the idea now that what is happening now is what has always happened
is simply a fib...and you have to look for this... and a good example...
50,0000 Huguenots came to this country in the period 1680 onward... now
50,000 Huguenots over a period of years was equal to about 2 months
immigration in the 1990s.

It may be a quote, but where did you get it from? It's certainly not the kind of objective numerical information that might make it clear what is actually going on.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/research/projects/transport/data/population1680.html

says that the population of the UK was about 5.5 million in 1680. It didn't go up all that fast over the next century either.

The current population is 66 million so it's a trifle dishonest to skip that point when comparing numbers.

U-tube links aren't evidence, and I'm not going to waste my time waiting
for whatever it was you thought I ought to see.

This is a video of a debate at Oxford University Union. Its certainly
evidence of the views presented at reputable academic institutions.

Oxford Union debates aren't about presenting facts, but rather about presenting the debaters. It's not where you go for impartial evidence.

<snipped the rest of the right-wing propaganda>

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 8:56:49 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:57:28 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Nor anything else for that matter - excepting only Cultural Marxist
Frankfurt School dogma.

I do know enough to be aware that the Cultural Marxist Frankfurt school
isn't the bogyman that the rabid right likes to claim.

So, you are a Socialist, i.e a thief. You are ok with taking from those that
work twice as hard to give it to those that don't. What's your point?

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own
culture.

Kevin does seem have been badly frighten by a Muslim when young.

I knew, essentially nothing about Muslims and Islam until rather late in
life.

When I met my last partner I learnt very quickly. She is an atheist and
escaped as a refugee from Iran when the Iranian Revolution took place. Her
first husband was executed specifically for being an atheist by the
revolutionists. She would have been killed if she had stayed.

Don't piss about on what you don't know, you know nothing.

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
>"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news:qh83bc$mk9$4@dont-email.me...

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:57:28 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Nor anything else for that matter - excepting only Cultural Marxist
Frankfurt School dogma.

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own
culture.

Sloman is just an arsehole, Kev. You're attempting to debate with a
bigoted, know-nothing arsehole. You will get nowhere.

I agree that Sloman hold a belief a leftist Ideology in the same manner as
as any religious fundamentalist, so yes debating rotationally is futile.


Well... anyway.... just had my Schecter EMGs replaced with Dimarzio
Evolutions. Had enough of the aggravation of the battery....

Couldn't believe just how bad the schematic for the EMG active is...

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 4:57:31 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
From: Bill Sloman
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:48 AM
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Welcome to Sh*thole London (and you are!)

On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 6:26:20 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:6cf5c0b4-e0f4-4df2-8065-375b96c12ff1@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is what happens when Globalists replace the settled, indigenous
population of a city or country with a massive influx of strangers
who
have no respect for, nor interest in, the host culture - or even the
diverse cultures of their fellow immigrants for that matter.

London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehGhwfd4sM


But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times.

Numbers?

Quote 2:30

“There has been a [claim] that this country has always been a nation of
immigrants...that is not true... for most of the history of this
countries
history there has been a very homogeneous group of people on these
Islands.
... and the idea now that what is happening now is what has always
happened
is simply a fib...and you have to look for this... and a good example...
50,0000 Huguenots came to this country in the period 1680 onward... now
50,000 Huguenots over a period of years was equal to about 2 months
immigration in the 1990s.

It may be a quote, but where did you get it from? It's certainly not the
kind of objective numerical information that might make it clear what is
actually going >on.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/research/projects/transport/data/population1680.html

says that the population of the UK was about 5.5 million in 1680. It didn't
go up all that fast over the next century either.

The current population is 66 million so it's a trifle dishonest to skip
that point when comparing numbers.

Pissing about.

That's 1% over several years. Furthermore, that was not sustained
immigration, it was one-off

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

Shows in 2011 foreign born was over 12%.

There currently is a relentless replacing of the indigenous population of
the UK.

U-tube links aren't evidence, and I'm not going to waste my time waiting
for whatever it was you thought I ought to see.

This is a video of a debate at Oxford University Union. Its certainly
evidence of the views presented at reputable academic institutions.

Oxford Union debates aren't about presenting facts, but rather about
presenting the debaters. It's not where you go for impartial evidence.

snipped the rest of the right-wing propaganda

In other words, "I have no argument to refute those facts"

Facts are not propaganda. Half the indigenous population of London has been
replaced.

Any suggestion that that is in the best interests of indigenous population
is about as near to disingenuous left wing propaganda as one can get.

The reality is, no immigrant goes to a county to help the country, they go
to help themselves, otherwise they wouldn't go, and they do it at the
expense of the indigenous population.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefingPaper/document/269

"However, the presumption of even a small fiscal benefit has been
comprehensively overturned by a UCL study published in 2014 which found the
fiscal impact of migrants in the UK between 1995 and 2011 was in fact a net
cost of between ÂŁ115 and ÂŁ160 billion that is between ÂŁ19 and ÂŁ26 million
per day.[5]"

I know these facts upsets your Marxist/Socialist ideology that immigration
is great for everyone and all that appose it are xenophobia racists. Yeah...
whatever...

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:06:26 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news:qh83bc$mk9$4@dont-email.me...

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:57:28 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Additionally, its unfortunate that you appear to have no knowledge of
Douglas Murray.

Nor anything else for that matter - excepting only Cultural Marxist
Frankfurt School dogma.

Every indigenous citizen of a nation has the ethical right to reject the
imposition of an invading culture, whatever the status of their own
culture.

Sloman is just an arsehole, Kev. You're attempting to debate with a
bigoted, know-nothing arsehole. You will get nowhere.

I agree that Sloman hold a belief a leftist Ideology in the same manner as
as any religious fundamentalist, so yes debating rationally is futile.

That would be a neat trick. There is no agreed-on leftist dogma on which to base a fundamentalist approach. Kevin may want to claim otherwise, but he'll have to identify the dogma involved. He should know enough to realise that Communist party dogma won't serve - the International Socialist movement threw out Marx and the proto-communists for being undemocratic in 1871, and they haven't abandoned their silly ideas about the leading role of the party since then.

I think Keven is working on the proposition that anybody who disagrees with his irrational prejudices must be adhering to a different set of irrational prejudices. It's the kind of idea that does appeal to irrational people.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:29:22 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:840301de-d886-49c3-8a49-1ac2a77bbc53@googlegroups.com...
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 4:57:31 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
From: Bill Sloman
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:48 AM
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Welcome to Sh*thole London (and you are!)
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 6:26:20 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
"Bill Sloman" wrote in message
news:6cf5c0b4-e0f4-4df2-8065-375b96c12ff1@googlegroups.com...
On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 12:00:17 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
London has been getting immigrants for as long as it has existed.

<snip>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ehGhwfd4sM


But nothing at the stunning levels that has occurred in recent times..

Numbers?

Quote 2:30

“There has been a [claim] that this country has always been a nation of
immigrants...that is not true... for most of the history of this
countries
history there has been a very homogeneous group of people on these
Islands.
... and the idea now that what is happening now is what has always
happened
is simply a fib...and you have to look for this... and a good example....
50,0000 Huguenots came to this country in the period 1680 onward... now
50,000 Huguenots over a period of years was equal to about 2 months
immigration in the 1990s.

It may be a quote, but where did you get it from? It's certainly not the
kind of objective numerical information that might make it clear what is
actually going >on.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/research/projects/transport/data/population1680.html

says that the population of the UK was about 5.5 million in 1680. It didn't
go up all that fast over the next century either.

The current population is 66 million so it's a trifle dishonest to skip
that point when comparing numbers.

Pissing about.

That's 1% over several years. Furthermore, that was not sustained
immigration, it was one-off.

It wasn't the first such influx, and there have been a few more since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom

Shows in 2011 foreign born was over 12%.

So what.

There currently is a relentless replacing of the indigenous population of
the UK.

And most other places. The UK probably needs it more than most.

U-tube links aren't evidence, and I'm not going to waste my time waiting
for whatever it was you thought I ought to see.

This is a video of a debate at Oxford University Union. Its certainly
evidence of the views presented at reputable academic institutions.

Oxford Union debates aren't about presenting facts, but rather about
presenting the debaters. It's not where you go for impartial evidence.

snipped the rest of the right-wing propaganda

In other words, "I have no argument to refute those facts"

What "facts"? And I'm not going to plow through a U-tube presentation in the hope of finding some.

Facts are not propaganda. Half the indigenous population of London has been
replaced.

So what. The UK conservative party is still silly enough to pick on another singularly unimpressive leader. You'd better get on with replacing the other half.

Any suggestion that that is in the best interests of indigenous population
is about as near to disingenuous left wing propaganda as one can get.

The reality is, no immigrant goes to a county to help the country, they go
to help themselves, otherwise they wouldn't go, and they do it at the
expense of the indigenous population.

People who immigrate have more energy and initiative than the people who don't.
They find things to do in their new country that the residents are willing to pay for, which does imply that the residents are better off in consequence.

That's pure capitalist dogma.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefingPaper/document/269

"However, the presumption of even a small fiscal benefit has been
comprehensively overturned by a UCL study published in 2014 which found the
fiscal impact of migrants in the UK between 1995 and 2011 was in fact a net
cost of between ÂŁ115 and ÂŁ160 billion that is between ÂŁ19 and ÂŁ26 million
per day.[5]"

I know these facts upsets your Marxist/Socialist ideology that immigration
is great for everyone and all that oppose it are xenophobia racists. Yeah....
whatever...

MigrationWatch UK has a history of getting its "facts" wrong.

An August 2002 editorial in The Independent concerning the MigrationWatch prediction of two million migrants in the following decade carried the title "A nasty little group playing an old, and unwelcome, trick" and stated that "Migration Watch is, of course, no think tank, but a pressure group with a distinctly unpleasant agenda".

You do seem to be xenophobic, but religious anxieties do appear to trump any silly ideas you might have about race.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:29:17 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

I know these facts upsets your Marxist/Socialist ideology that
immigration is great for everyone and all that appose it are xenophobia
racists. Yeah... whatever...

Whenever anyone posts any citation of which Sloman disapproves, he
invariably trashes the provenance of the data. Unless the source has been
given a 5 star rating by the Snopes so-called 'fact-checking' site, it
may be readily and summarily dismissed as far as Sloman is concerned.




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On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:07:35 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

> Don't piss about on what you don't know, you know nothing.

<applause>

You'd have thought after so many years of being told that by so many
different contributors here, the penny would have dropped by now. Sadly
not!



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On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 5:18:33 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:29:17 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

I know these facts upsets your Marxist/Socialist ideology that
immigration is great for everyone and all that appose it are xenophobia
racists. Yeah... whatever...

Whenever anyone posts any citation of which Sloman disapproves, he
invariably trashes the provenance of the data.

Cursitor Doom does seem fond of particularly dubious data sources. Trashing them is a public spirited act, and it really doesn't take much effort.

Kevin seems to have taken to living in a similar sort of xenophobic bubble.

Unless the source has been given a 5 star rating by the Snopes so-called 'fact-checking' site, it may be readily and summarily dismissed as far as
Sloman is concerned.

https://www.snopes.com/

is a useful site. I don't use it particularly often. Google usually gets me where I need to go rather more directly. Cursitor Doom hasn't got a clue about the number of books and New Scientist articles I've read - he once claimed that I'd never read a serious book, which was bizarre - and I do know what I'm talking about, which mostly makes it immediately obvious that Cursitor Doom doesn't. Kevin Aylward is pretty well-informed in some areas, but his xenophobic posts don't concern areas where he's done the right kind of background reading.

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On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 5:11:33 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:07:35 +0100, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Don't piss about on what you don't know, you know nothing.

applause

You'd have thought after so many years of being told that by so many
different contributors here, the penny would have dropped by now. Sadly
not!

My irony meter just pegged. Cursitor Doom is deliberately and persistently ill-informed, and equally persistently unwillign to read beyond the Daily Mail, Russia Today and ZeroHedge that give him his daily fixes of right-wing misinformation.

Ken Aylward gets his misinformation from a wider range of sources, but he's equally unwilling to look at anything that might challenge his silly ideas.

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