OT: warning about 194040 scam

[Noddy]

"Richard Kelly" <blamesociety@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?

Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.

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Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged
$4 every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to
expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.

Actually, you do.

The terms & conditions are spelled out in the adds, albeit very breifly, and
by sending your message you're agreeing to be bound by them.

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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Richard Waters]

Noddy furiously typed the following on 10/05/2006 4:47 PM:

"Richard Kelly" <blamesociety@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?


Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

AMEN to that Noddy! Why is it that the rest of us that put effort into
our lives have the spend the rest of our time dragging up the weakest
links just because the P.C. wingers want us too...

....wouldnt it be better that the weakest links in the chain were made to
strap in and pull themselves up to the rest of our level and make
something of themselves - that way civilisation moves forward and doesnt
stand still like it is now!

:-D -- Richard W

 

[Noddy]

"Richard Waters" <legerdemain@irimus.com.au> wrote in message
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...wouldnt it be better that the weakest links in the chain were made to
strap in and pull themselves up to the rest of our level and make
something of themselves - that way civilisation moves forward and doesnt
stand still like it is now!

Indeed.

Either that, or we just shoot them

--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

Michael C wrote:

trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.

I suspect you're one of those people who needs to find other's stupid in
order to feel better about yourself.

**That woiuld be 'projection'. Even in the wishy-washy terms you've
used. I am simply staggered by the number of people who have been
conned by the 'phone companies into using SMS. SMS is dirt cheap (for
the 'phone companies). Whilst they cost the consumer $0.20 (or
thereabouts), the cost to the 'phone companies, in network time is so
little that the real cost would probably not be able to be accurately
guaged. Figure on about ONE MILLIONTH of one Cent per SMS and you're
probably not far off. SMS is a con-job, aimed at children. It has
worked brilliantly. Adults, OTOH, should know better. Email is
essentially free.

'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.

I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged $4
every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to
expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.

**Anyone who uses SMS without reading the fine print.

Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)

Are you telling me you've never done anything stupid in your life?

**I've done plenty of dumb things. SMS ain't one of them. I used it
ONCE. I now ignore any SMS messages and wiat for the idots to actually
'phone me (or email). I refuse, point blank, to use SMS to enter any
knid of contest, as it is clear that the cost of SMS pays for the
prizes (and then some). It is a huge con.

I admit I

was stupid to send the SMS but on the scale of stupid things that a person
could do this is right down at the low end. I've actually sent a couple
before to reputable companies from a competition on an icecream pack. It was
55c to enter but seeing I was on a cap it's not costing me anything so why
not. I sent them an sms, got charged my 55c and they sent a reply back
saying I didn't win and that was the end of it. I don't see how that's
stupid, considering it didn't cost me anything it's actually a smart thing
to do

PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?

You should chill out a bit.

**No. We are presently seeing a huge re-direction of resources away
from real things, to stupid SMS messages, from children and the
feeble-minded. I object to that. Our society could well do without such
ridiculous and unnnecessary waste.

Trevor Wilson

 

[Michael C]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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Actually, you do.

The terms & conditions are spelled out in the adds, albeit very breifly,
and by sending your message you're agreeing to be bound by them.

There was no way in the world I could have read those from across the room
on my tiny tele. They were deliberately small and not shown long enough to
read. If tested under law I'm sure I'd be in the right.

Michael

 

[Michael C]

"Richard Kelly" <blamesociety@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4461811a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?

I agree. Any scam that is invented will attract someone and all too often we
blame that person for falling for the scam. Quite often (but not always)
they fall for the scam for being too honest and not understand the depth of
dishonesty other's will go to.

I would say they out number us... which is scary.

Us? As in us superior people?

PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?

Agreed.

You and trevor should stop looking down at the rest of the world

Michael

 

[Michael C]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:44618156@news.comindico.com.au...

Why do you think they do it? Hint: They're in business.

If you're too keen to partake before you read the fine print, that's
you're problem.

Do read the fine print before spending every $2? I bet you've made some
fairly big decisions in life without reading all the fine print. Does anyone
read the fine print for their home insurance or life insurance.

Michael

 

[Michael C]

<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:1147254799.153590.29350@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

**That woiuld be 'projection'. Even in the wishy-washy terms you've
used.

you crack me up.

I am simply staggered by the number of people who have been
conned by the 'phone companies into using SMS. SMS is dirt cheap (for
the 'phone companies). Whilst they cost the consumer $0.20 (or
thereabouts), the cost to the 'phone companies, in network time is so
little that the real cost would probably not be able to be accurately
guaged. Figure on about ONE MILLIONTH of one Cent per SMS and you're
probably not far off. SMS is a con-job, aimed at children. It has
worked brilliantly. Adults, OTOH, should know better. Email is
essentially free.

You should know what something costs has little to do with what it sells
for. For me an sms is worth the 11cents.

**I've done plenty of dumb things. SMS ain't one of them. I used it
ONCE. I now ignore any SMS messages and wiat for the idots to actually
'phone me (or email).

Presumably they'd rather avoid talking to you.

I refuse, point blank, to use SMS to enter any
knid of contest, as it is clear that the cost of SMS pays for the
prizes (and then some). It is a huge con.

Why? It's part of my cap so essentially free. It makes perfect sense.

**No. We are presently seeing a huge re-direction of resources away
from real things, to stupid SMS messages, from children and the
feeble-minded. I object to that. Our society could well do without such
ridiculous and unnnecessary waste.

Hardly. We've become so efficient that if everyone in this country was
actually involved in producing goods we'd be in real trouble. We need lawers
and tax agents to save the environment.

Michael

 

[Noddy]

"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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There was no way in the world I could have read those from across the room
on my tiny tele. They were deliberately small and not shown long enough to
read. If tested under law I'm sure I'd be in the right.

I wouldn't bet big money on that.

There's minimum standards for this type of crap, and there wouldn't be too
many TV networks that would knowingly let that shit get by if it wasn't
kosher. What they generally show you is the *minimum* they have to in order
to comply with the regulations, and if you can't understand the terms &
conditions for whatever reason it's your problem.

I agree that the terms are ridiculously small and not shown for long enough
to read entirely, but if that's all they're legally entitled to do you're up
shit creek. Claiming that "the writing was too small to read from across the
room" would not be an acceptable defence in my humble opinion.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Do read the fine print before spending every $2?

Of course not, but then again not every $2 I spend is "at risk".

I bet you've made some fairly big decisions in life without reading all
the fine print.

Can't say that I have.

Whenever I've commited myself to anything I've always gone out of my way to
fully understand what it is that I'm getting myself into. Particularly where
money is involved.

Does anyone read the fine print for their home insurance or life
insurance.

Only an idiot wouldn't

--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Richard Kelly]

Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies
willing to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit
harder for it?

I agree. Any scam that is invented will attract someone and all too often
we blame that person for falling for the scam. Quite often (but not
always) they fall for the scam for being too honest and not understand the
depth of dishonesty other's will go to.

I would say they out number us... which is scary.

Us? As in us superior people?

As in people who aren't idiots.

PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?

Agreed.

You and trevor should stop looking down at the rest of the world

Not the rest of the world, just the idiots and morons.

 

[Tom]

Richard Kelly wrote:

Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?

Well, I lived in a few different places around the world, some without
much government involvement into business practices etc. My observation
is simple - more government protection breeds more morons in society.

Tom

 

[dechucka]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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"Richard Kelly" <blamesociety@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4461811a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies
willing to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit
harder for it?

Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.

yeah but I would still rescue you if you were drowning or let you buddy
breath