OT: Virus Parasite Discovered?

[Cursitor Doom]

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e



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[amdx]

On 10/21/2019 9:13 AM, Winfield Hill wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote...

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Russia Today strikes again.

The Japanese researchers found virus fragments in pig faeces,
and decided that they weren't what was left over when some
anti-viral defense, or some hungry but defective microbe had
chewed up a virus, but rather something new, unique and
publishable that might get replicated by hijacking some
fragments of some other virus.

Only Cursitor Doom would take it seriously.

Are you saying, we can relax now?

No way!
Prions are alive and well. OK they are not alive, but they are well.

Mikek

 

[Winfield Hill]

Bill Sloman wrote...

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Russia Today strikes again.

The Japanese researchers found virus fragments in pig faeces,
and decided that they weren't what was left over when some
anti-viral defense, or some hungry but defective microbe had
chewed up a virus, but rather something new, unique and
publishable that might get replicated by hijacking some
fragments of some other virus.

Only Cursitor Doom would take it seriously.

Are you saying, we can relax now?


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[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 12:28:27 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Russia Today strikes again.

The Japanese researchers found virus fragments in pig faeces, and decided that they weren't what was left over when some anti-viral defense, or some hungry but defective microbe had chewed up a virus, but rather something new, unique and publishable that might get replicated by hijacking some fragments of some other virus.

Only Cursitor Doom would take it seriously.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:28:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Nature is infinitely evil. If any idea or phenomenon can be
weaponized, it is.

Far too many times things went undiscovered because scientists assumed
it was impossible.



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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/10/21 9:04 a.m., jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:28:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Nature is infinitely evil. If any idea or phenomenon can be
weaponized, it is.

Far too many times things went undiscovered because scientists assumed
it was impossible.

Nature isn't evil - that implies intent.

Nature just doesn't care.

So people have to invent god(s) to care about the group that believes in
that particular god.

As for science, Richard P. Feynman said that if you can't challenge the
assumptions then it isn't a real science, it's a religion.

John :-#)#

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 07:13:24 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

> Are you saying, we can relax now?

Mr. Sloman has a bit of an issue with Russia. He hates the country for
giving up on Communism back in the early 90s. He would have been happy if
they'd pressed on regardless and entered into new pogroms and Stalinesque
mass starvation like back in the 1930s to kill off all the dissenters.
Throwing the towel in and admitting Communism is an unsustainable system
was the ultimate sin by Russia as far as Bill is concerned.



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[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 7:41:04 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 07:13:24 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

Are you saying, we can relax now?

Dr. Sloman has a bit of an issue with Russia. He hates the country for
giving up on Communism back in the early 90s.

Communism was always an unfortunate perversion of socialism. The international socialist movement kicked out Karl Marx and the proto-communists in 1871 precisely because their ideas were undemocratic and likely to lead to tyranny - as indeed they did.

I've pointed this out frequently here, but brain-dead idiots like Cursitor Doom and krw can't get the message.

I didn't think much of Communist Russia, and welcomed the downfall of the Communist Party. Sadly, the process of replacing it was severely mismanaged, and the country is now a failed state, run by a criminal conspiracy devoted to enriching itself at the expense of the rest of the population. Putin want to be able to rip off a larger population, so he's trying to take over nearby countries.

> He would have been happy if they'd pressed on regardless and entered into new pogroms and Stalinesque mass starvation like back in the 1930s to kill off all the dissenters.

A bizarre misconception.

Throwing the towel in and admitting Communism is an unsustainable system
was the ultimate sin by Russia as far as Bill is concerned.

And another.

Cursitor Doom really does need to move to the nearest institution set up to look after demented idiots before his delusions start damaging his health.

If he said things like that in a face-to-face conversation, he'd get kicked out the door, and would run the risk of freezing to death before he'd find a place that would let him back in.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 1:13:42 AM UTC+11, Winfield Hill wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote...

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Russia Today strikes again.

The Japanese researchers found virus fragments in pig faeces,
and decided that they weren't what was left over when some
anti-viral defense, or some hungry but defective microbe had
chewed up a virus, but rather something new, unique and
publishable that might get replicated by hijacking some
fragments of some other virus.

Only Cursitor Doom would take it seriously.

Are you saying, we can relax now?

Was there ever anything to get excited about?

Perhaps if you were in the habit of bathing in pig faeces ...

John Larkin has talked about the enthusiasm of university publicity departments to make a splash about any new research result.

Somebody at Russia Today must have been bribed to put that lot on-line.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Monday, 21 October 2019 21:41:04 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Mr. Sloman has a bit of an issue with Russia. He hates the country for
giving up on Communism back in the early 90s. He would have been happy if
they'd pressed on regardless and entered into new pogroms and Stalinesque
mass starvation like back in the 1930s to kill off all the dissenters.
Throwing the towel in and admitting Communism is an unsustainable system
was the ultimate sin by Russia as far as Bill is concerned.

Russian Communism was sustained for a lifetime, and could go on far longer - but thankfully it has not. Every system is vulnerable to downfall as a result of poor decisions. The problem with communism.... well, which one should we pick.


NT

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:22:32 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

Russian Communism was sustained for a lifetime, and could go on far
longer - but thankfully it has not. Every system is vulnerable to
downfall as a result of poor decisions.

That's very true. The outlook for Capitalism much better as things stand,
but at least it's built on sound principles that doesn't have wishful
thinking and unrealistic expectations of altruism on the part of others
as its foundation stone.



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[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 7:48:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:22:32 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

Russian Communism was sustained for a lifetime, and could go on far
longer - but thankfully it has not. Every system is vulnerable to
downfall as a result of poor decisions.

That's very true. The outlook for Capitalism much better as things stand,
but at least it's built on sound principles that doesn't have wishful
thinking and unrealistic expectations of altruism on the part of others
as its foundation stone.

Cursitor Doom seems to have descended into gibbering idiocy.

The free market can be relied on to degrade into cartels and monopolies if somebody doesn't regulate it to some extent, and the idea the the regulators won't be got at is clearly wishful thinking and an unrealistic expectation of altruism.

Adam Smith did mention that "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."

He seems to have been willing to rely on social pressures and moral principles to stop this getting too bad.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:44:07 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

On 2019/10/21 9:04 a.m., jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:28:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Nature is infinitely evil. If any idea or phenomenon can be
weaponized, it is.

Far too many times things went undiscovered because scientists assumed
it was impossible.




Nature isn't evil - that implies intent.

Anything that tries to eat me is evil.

Nature just doesn't care.

Nature is hungry. Most critters spend most of their time finding and
eating food. Humans don't spend so much resources on food, which is
why we have time to design electronics.

So people have to invent god(s) to care about the group that believes in
that particular god.

As for science, Richard P. Feynman said that if you can't challenge the
assumptions then it isn't a real science, it's a religion.

It would be fun if he were around today.



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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 9:28:27 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

As they say, it's not a real virus. It was almost certainly produced by the cells of the pig in response to some kind of cytoacivating enzyme floating around the blood stream. Probably the remnants of some ancient virus permanently incorporated into the pig's genome. Like they say, if they're no proteins, it's not infectious.

People need to worry about TTVs, transfusion transmitted viruses. Generally if the industry doesn't know what they do, they classify them as harmless. Sometimes this backfires. The virus associated with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, which is of epidemic proportions, originally started out as a TTV. Now it's simian virus 40 or something, SV-40. There are hundreds if not thousands of others, with new ones discovered all the time.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 7:48:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:22:32 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

Russian Communism was sustained for a lifetime, and could go on far
longer - but thankfully it has not. Every system is vulnerable to
downfall as a result of poor decisions.

That's very true. The outlook for Capitalism much better as things stand,
but at least it's built on sound principles that doesn't have wishful
thinking and unrealistic expectations of altruism on the part of others
as its foundation stone.

Cursitor Doom seems to think that "Capitalism" is some kind of system that designed around principles.

The first use of the term in it's modern sense goes back to Louis Blanc in 1850, and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon in 1861.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

It's actually the way world used to work, and was recognised as a system by the people who wanted society to be organised on socialist principles, who happened to see the necessity of curbing the power of people who had a lot of capital to run society in ways that suited them.

In so far as it has any underlying principles, it's all about prioritising immediate advantage over long term consequences. There's nothing sound about that.

It's proponents talk about trickle down economics

https://www.thebalance.com/trickle-down-economics-theory-effect-does-it-work-3305572

which is pure wishful thinking.

Where the unrealistic expectations of altruism on the part of others comes into socialist thinking escapes me.

Socialists want the economy run in a way that benefits everybody involved. That's entirely self-interested - it recognises the fact that if any section of society feels hard done by they will be motivated to restructure that society in a way that will leave them better off. Any altruism involved is the self-interested desire to avoid having envious and discontented neighbours.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 2:56:28 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:44:07 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com
wrote:

On 2019/10/21 9:04 a.m., jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:28:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

Well I'll be! (this is strictly *biological* not computer-related)

https://tinyurl.com/y5ca3z7e

Nature is infinitely evil. If any idea or phenomenon can be
weaponized, it is.

Far too many times things went undiscovered because scientists assumed
it was impossible.

Nature isn't evil - that implies intent.

Anything that tries to eat me is evil.

And insufficiently picky about it;s food.

Nature just doesn't care.

Nature is hungry. Most critters spend most of their time finding and
eating food. Humans don't spend so much resources on food, which is
why we have time to design electronics.

We don't now. It took the agricultural revolution to get us into that happy state, and anthropogenic global warming may take us out of it.

So people have to invent god(s) to care about the group that believes in
that particular god.

As for science, Richard P. Feynman said that if you can't challenge the
assumptions then it isn't a real science, it's a religion.

It would be fun if he were around today.

There are a lot of people who would get more of his jokes than John Larkin can manage, and quite a few who would also appreciate his serious contributions.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:21:14 -0700, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred wrote:

> People need to worry about TTVs, transfusion transmitted viruses.

Mebe. But they also need to worry about artificially spliced together
viruses put together in some kid's bedroom in about 10 years' time.
Spliced to combine the virulence of ebola with the prevalence of the
common cold. What a lovely future to look forward to for our children.



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[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 10:11:31 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:21:14 -0700, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred wrote:

People need to worry about TTVs, transfusion transmitted viruses.

Mebe. But they also need to worry about artificially spliced together
viruses put together in some kid's bedroom in about 10 years' time.
Spliced to combine the virulence of ebola with the prevalence of the
common cold. What a lovely future to look forward to for our children.

Cursitor Doom think that the common cold is "prevalent". What he would mean - if he knew what he was talking about - is that it is easily transmitted.

Viruses have been working on being easily transmitted for at least a billion years now. It's unlikely that a kid in a bedroom will be able match the performance of the best performing virus around at getting transmitted in something that also kills its hosts before they can get around to infecting other people.

It's much more likely that they will work up a virus that selectively kills off people with Cursitor Doom's obvious cognitive defects - not all that likely, but we can hope.

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