[OT] US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.

[Don McKenzie]

I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...


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[Franc Zabkar]

On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:20:47 +1000, Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...

Unfortunately this US spammer was not jailed for spamming, as many of
us would have hoped. It's a hollow victory, IMO.

"Howard Carmack, known as the "Buffalo Spammer," received the maximum
sentence for 14 counts of identity theft and forgery ... Carmack sent
out hundreds of millions of bulk e-mail messages, flooding inboxes and
saddling Internet providers with millions of dollars in costs. But it
was his use of stolen identities and forged addresses that caused him
to run afoul of state prosecutors."


- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[KLR]

On Fri, 28 May 2004 17:08:47 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:20:47 +1000, Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:


I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...

Unfortunately this US spammer was not jailed for spamming, as many of
us would have hoped. It's a hollow victory, IMO.

While I agree with you that they didn't actually get him for spamming
- at least they did get him for something - and that is a lot better
than getting him for nothing at all I guess.

Bit like Al Capone. As I recall he never got done for any of his

infamous crime activity - but they did at least get him for tax
avoidance

"Howard Carmack, known as the "Buffalo Spammer," received the maximum
sentence for 14 counts of identity theft and forgery ... Carmack sent
out hundreds of millions of bulk e-mail messages, flooding inboxes and
saddling Internet providers with millions of dollars in costs. But it
was his use of stolen identities and forged addresses that caused him
to run afoul of state prosecutors."


- Franc Zabkar

 

[Bob Parker]

Thanks for the alert, Don. There's a more detailed story with photo
at http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040528/1058198.asp
I'm slightly encouraged by the occasional story I've seen in the US
media, that the FBI's identified 100 of the most prolific spammers,
and is making plans to bust about 50 of them later this year. If it
happens (which I'm not holding my breath waiting for), that might make
the rest of these parasites sit up and take notice, and start
wondering just whose credit cards they're charging their scams to.
Have a nice day.

Bob


Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> wrote:

I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...

 

[Don McKenzie]

Franc Zabkar wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:20:47 +1000, Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:


I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...

Unfortunately this US spammer was not jailed for spamming, as many of
us would have hoped. It's a hollow victory, IMO.

"Howard Carmack, known as the "Buffalo Spammer," received the maximum
sentence for 14 counts of identity theft and forgery ... Carmack sent
out hundreds of millions of bulk e-mail messages, flooding inboxes and
saddling Internet providers with millions of dollars in costs. But it
was his use of stolen identities and forged addresses that caused him
to run afoul of state prosecutors."

- Franc Zabkar

Yes, that's the point Frank.
He setup 343 false accounts and addresses with Earthlink.
What spammer uses his real identity and email address?

Like Bob said, Elliot got big Al on a minor charge, however he spent the
rest of his short life in the clink.
Hardly a hollow victory.

Cheers Don...


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Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sat, 29 May 2004 06:17:52 +1000, Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:20:47 +1000, Don McKenzie <look@my.sig.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:


I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...

Unfortunately this US spammer was not jailed for spamming, as many of
us would have hoped. It's a hollow victory, IMO.

"Howard Carmack, known as the "Buffalo Spammer," received the maximum
sentence for 14 counts of identity theft and forgery ... Carmack sent
out hundreds of millions of bulk e-mail messages, flooding inboxes and
saddling Internet providers with millions of dollars in costs. But it
was his use of stolen identities and forged addresses that caused him
to run afoul of state prosecutors."

- Franc Zabkar

Yes, that's the point Frank.
He setup 343 false accounts and addresses with Earthlink.
What spammer uses his real identity and email address?

Look at it another way. If he had spammed using his real name and his
real address, then he would have been convicted of nothing, unless
stupidity is a crime. In fact I see lots of Usenet spam from real
people and real businesses.

Like Bob said, Elliot got big Al on a minor charge, however he spent the
rest of his short life in the clink.
Hardly a hollow victory.

Cheers Don...

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[skozzy]

Why do spamers send spam ?, they get paid for it. Now you would figure that
if someone paid another party to perform a crime that they too would be up
for judgement.

"Don McKenzie" <look@my.sig.com> wrote in message
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I know it is off topic, but I felt this one may brighten up a bleak
Friday morning for you.
May even put a smile on your face.
Well, some of you anyway.

US Spammer actually convicted and sentenced.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=582&e=1&u=/nm/20040527/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc

Don...


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Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php

 

[Bob Parker]

"skozzy" <ask.me.for.my@email.address.com.au> wrote:

Why do spamers send spam ?, they get paid for it. Now you would figure that
if someone paid another party to perform a crime that they too would be up
for judgement.

Funny, I thought the same thing. But it's all happening in the Good
'Ol US of A where "Commercial Free Speech" and The Free Enterprise
System takes priority over everything else, including the right of
internet users all over the planet to use e-mail without small-time US
criminals vandalizing the system and stealing their mailbox capacity
and other resources they've paid for.

Bob

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:15:13 +1000, Bob Parker <bobp@bluebottle.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

"skozzy" <ask.me.for.my@email.address.com.au> wrote:

Why do spamers send spam ?, they get paid for it. Now you would figure that
if someone paid another party to perform a crime that they too would be up
for judgement.

Funny, I thought the same thing. But it's all happening in the Good
'Ol US of A ...

Australia produces more spam than the USA on a per user basis.

See http://www.caube.org.au/australia.htm

"While the Australian contribution to the spam problem has always been
small in absolute terms, Australia has had a reputation at various
times for producing far more spam than you would expect given our
relatively small population. In 1999-2000, CAUBE.AU conducted a spam
survey to measure that contribution. ...We were surprised to find that
in this survey, Australia accounted for approximately 16% of all spam
received, while Australian users of the Internet accounted for
approximately 2.6% of Internet users around the world. For the United
States to be producing an equal relative volume of spam at that time,
it would have had to produce 250% of the world's spam.

The situation improved somewhat since then, although some of this
improvement may be due to spammers using techniques to make it harder
to identify where their spam comes from. Still, as at mid 2002, the
volume of spam produced by Australia was still at least twice as high
as it should have been given Australia’s contribution to global
Internet use."


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[KLR]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 08:25:07 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote:

On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:15:13 +1000, Bob Parker <bobp@bluebottle.com
put finger to keyboard and composed:

"skozzy" <ask.me.for.my@email.address.com.au> wrote:

Why do spamers send spam ?, they get paid for it. Now you would figure that
if someone paid another party to perform a crime that they too would be up
for judgement.

Funny, I thought the same thing. But it's all happening in the Good
'Ol US of A ...

Australia produces more spam than the USA on a per user basis.

See http://www.caube.org.au/australia.htm

"While the Australian contribution to the spam problem has always been
small in absolute terms, Australia has had a reputation at various
times for producing far more spam than you would expect given our
relatively small population. In 1999-2000, CAUBE.AU conducted a spam
survey to measure that contribution. ...We were surprised to find that
in this survey, Australia accounted for approximately 16% of all spam
received, while Australian users of the Internet accounted for
approximately 2.6% of Internet users around the world. For the United
States to be producing an equal relative volume of spam at that time,
it would have had to produce 250% of the world's spam.

The situation improved somewhat since then, although some of this
improvement may be due to spammers using techniques to make it harder
to identify where their spam comes from. Still, as at mid 2002, the
volume of spam produced by Australia was still at least twice as high
as it should have been given Australia’s contribution to global
Internet use."


- Franc Zabkar

Oh well - at least now we have abilities that we can be proud of

 

[Bob Parker]

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote:

Australia produces more spam than the USA on a per user basis.

Ya learn something almost every day. But even so, I've gotta say that
the last time I got any spam which was recognizably Australian was
about 3 years ago. Every day I get >400 spams which are obviously
American. Maybe it's only me.

Bob