OT: Transgender bullies beating up on girls...

[John Doe]

The beat goes on...

https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I championship.

It\'s not an accomplishment.

It\'s no surprise.

It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.

It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

It\'s about the cannibal left forcing its Religion of Bible Hatred on
everybody.

Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:00:54 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

The beat goes on...

https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I championship.

It\'s not an accomplishment.

Not one that John Doe wants to recognise.

> It\'s no surprise.

Not to John Doe, who has fixed, if unrealistic expectations.

> It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.

Not for John Doe, who hasn\'t a clue about what\'s involved in competing at that level

> It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

That\'s exactly what it is about, though the individuals involved have finally got over their original confusion and have settled down with the gender they can lived with.

> It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

That\'s what John Doe wants to believe, and no amount of evidence is going to change what he believes - vile and stupid though it may be.

> It\'s about the cannibal left forcing its Religion of Bible Hatred on everybody.

Two imaginary objects in one sentence. Seriously deluded nonsense.

> Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are getting into deep trouble...

John Doe\'s insistence on believing fatuous nonsense hasn\'t yet got him into as much deep trouble as he deserves. He\'s still posting here, so he clearly hasn\'t yet got his just deserts, but we can hope.

Quite what the Bible has to say about gender dysphoria escapes me. It says quite lot about loving your neighbours, and John Doe doesn\'t seem to be into that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Phil Allison]

John Doe wrote:
==============

The beat goes on...
https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I championship.
It\'s not an accomplishment.
It\'s no surprise.
It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.
It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

** The individuals doing this are women hating assholes.
Narcissistic misogynists posing as self appointed rights activists.

Despicable and 100% self defeating as they will soon ruin the very sports they compete in.


....... Phil

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:

The beat goes on...

https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I championship.

It\'s not an accomplishment.

It\'s no surprise.

It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.

It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

It\'s about the cannibal left forcing its Religion of Bible Hatred on
everybody.

Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...

As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes. I don\'t know what they\'re on, but it\'s definitely working for them. And this gender stuff is not new. The Russians have been turning their female athletes into men competing as women for many decades now.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
The beat goes on...

https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I championship.

It\'s not an accomplishment.

It\'s no surprise.

It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.

It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

It\'s about the cannibal left forcing its Religion of Bible Hatred on
everybody.

Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.

nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...

As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.

nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.

You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:

lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...

As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.

nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.

You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72

What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution, but the female distribution does include females who are stronger than most males.

Your example doesn\'t address that point, as you should have been able to realise.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Phil Allison]

Some Fucking IDIOT called bill....@ieee.org wrote:
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What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

** That is you biggest, dumbest mistake, that is NOT the issue.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution,

** Yawwwnnnn - so male sporting records are always better than female ones.
Been known for quite while, that one.

Here is the disputed post:

\" Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes. I don\'t know what they\'re on, but it\'s definitely working for them. And this gender stuff is not new. The Russians have been turning their female athletes into men competing as women for many decades now. \"

The comment is actually about the use of ILLEGAL drugs in sport - in particular steroids.
Elaborate precautions are taken against it - like random testing and post testing of all medal / prize winners.

Russia has been banned for organised doping with their teams.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/sports/russia-doping-ban.html


Got absolutely SFA to do with men competing in women\'s events.

NOTHING.
=======


...... Phil

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 2:01:24 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

Some Fucking IDIOT called bill....@ieee.org wrote:
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What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

** That is you biggest, dumbest mistake, that is NOT the issue.

Phil can\'t keep track of what is being discussed.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution,

** Yawwwnnnn - so male sporting records are always better than female ones.

Mostly. There are occasional exceptions, mostly for long distance endurance events.

> Been known for quite while, that one.

It is a popular misapprehension.

Here is the disputed post:
\" Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes. I don\'t know what they\'re on, but it\'s definitely working for them. And this gender stuff is not new. The Russians have been turning their female athletes into men competing as women for many decades now. \"

The comment is actually about the use of ILLEGAL drugs in sport - in particular steroids.

That\'s what you want to concentrate on. My counter-example wasn\'t talking about anything of the sort. They weren\'t available in Australia at that time and she wasn\'t anything like fanatical enough to have even thought about taking that kind of risk.

> Elaborate precautions are taken against it - like random testing and post testing of all medal / prize winners.

They are now.

Russia has been banned for organised doping with their teams.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/sports/russia-doping-ban.html

I was talking about the 1960\'s.

> Got absolutely SFA to do with men competing in women\'s events.

And neither did what I was posting about. Phil is off on another of his wild goose chases.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

skrev Fred Bloggs:
John Doe wrote:

https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY

First male to win female Division I swimming championship.

It\'s not about a few confused individuals.

It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

It\'s about the cannibal left forcing its Religion of Bible Hatred on
everybody.

Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...

As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these
\"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than
most men athletes.

nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but
they are no match for even average male athletes

LOL
Of course it\'s nonsense! But it\'s not uncommon among zealots.

In fact... The swimmer in question is WAY down in the (parallel) men\'s
ranks.

 

[John Doe]

Wouldn\'t it be great if the promoters of \"non-binary\" people would also
promote non-racist people? That is, people who do not want to be forced
into racial categories for politically correct treatment.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 4:54:58 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Wouldn\'t it be great if the promoters of \"non-binary\" people would also
promote non-racist people? That is, people who do not want to be forced
into racial categories for politically correct treatment.

The politically correct way treating people of different races is to ignore visible indicators of race. It isn\'t all that difficult, though probably beyond John Doe\'s feeble powers. It gets easier when most people have mastered the skill.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[amdx]

If it was fair, the transgenders would not be constant winners and
setting new records by huge amounts.

If they want to compete set up their own category, and even then there
would need to be two categories.

 One for men changing to women and another for women changing to men,
because again, it would not be fair

for the women changing to men, because, the those that previously had a
woman\'s body, could not compete

on equal terms with those that previously had a man\'s body.

 All it take\'s is a little common sense and compassion for the people
born as women that train hard

and want to excel in their sport against other people born as women not
against previous men.

Mikek


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[amdx]

On 3/18/2022 4:46 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

John Doe wrote:
==============
The beat goes on...
https://youtu.be/kc-M_tnQOKY
First male to win female Division I championship.
It\'s not an accomplishment.
It\'s no surprise.
It\'s nothing to do with training or preparation.
It\'s not about a few confused individuals.
It\'s about cannibal leftists forcing everybody to cheer their puppets.

** The individuals doing this are women hating assholes.
Narcissistic misogynists posing as self appointed rights activists.

Despicable and 100% self defeating as they will soon ruin the very sports they compete in.


...... Phil

That\'s the nicest thing you have said for years.

Congratulations.

                                 Mikek


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[amdx]

On 3/18/2022 9:41 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.
nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.
You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72
What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution, but the female distribution does include females who are stronger than most males.

Your example doesn\'t address that point, as you should have been able to realise.

   Just because there are a few physically strong women is not a reason
to let men compete against women!

 Those few strong women should be the winners against other women, not
the losers among previous men.

Mikek


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[amdx]

On 3/18/2022 9:41 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.
nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.
You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72
What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

Do you have those curves that you say overlap so much?

Do they eliminate transgenders from the data?

Where were they done?

 Was the researcher a Gender Studies Major?

I\'d like to see  the curves from say the University of Alabama.

 But it still doesn\'t matter, Fairness requires we don\'t let previous
men compete against women.

                                                      Mikek



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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:15:43 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

If it was fair, the transgenders would not be constant winners and
setting new records by huge amounts.

But are they? Fox News seems to be diligent in reporting the examples they can find. They don\'t seem to be that enthusiastic about reporting when some well-trained woman sets a new record in women\'s sport.

When you are catering for nut cases like John Doe, you do have find the occasional example that would make John Doe happy and splash it big time.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 3/18/2022 9:41 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.
nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.
You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72
What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution, but the female distribution does include females who are stronger than most males.

Your example doesn\'t address that point, as you should have been able to realise.

Just because there are a few physically strong women is not a reason
to let men compete against women!

That isn\'t the reason transgender people are allowed to compete as members of the sex they\'d have preferred to be born into. It\'s mainly about treating them in a way that keeps them reasonably happy - as in not committing suicide.

> Those few strong women should be the winners against other women, not the losers against previous men.

They probably wouldn\'t be. \"Previous men\" aren\'t drawn exclusively from from the fit and muscular tail of the male distribution, but pretty much at random from the whole distribution.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[amdx]

On 3/20/2022 9:07 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/18/2022 9:41 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.
nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.
You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72
What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution, but the female distribution does include females who are stronger than most males.

Your example doesn\'t address that point, as you should have been able to realise.

Just because there are a few physically strong women is not a reason
to let men compete against women!
That isn\'t the reason transgender people are allowed to compete as members of the sex they\'d have preferred to be born into. It\'s mainly about treating them in a way that keeps them reasonably happy - as in not committing suicide.

Those few strong women should be the winners against other women, not the losers against previous men.
They probably wouldn\'t be. \"Previous men\" aren\'t drawn exclusively from from the fit and muscular tail of the male distribution, but pretty much at random from the whole distribution.

\"Previous men\" aren\'t drawn exclusively from from the fit and muscular tail of the male distribution\"

Well that\'s pretty true of those that perform in sports.

Random distribution of men are still going to be stronger than random
strong women.

 Just think fairness and you will be OK. FAIRNESS, get it?

                                          Mikek


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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 1:25:57 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 3/20/2022 9:07 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/18/2022 9:41 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:25:23 PM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 02.48.32 UTC+1 skrev bill....@ieee.org:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+11, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
lørdag den 19. marts 2022 kl. 01.21.56 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
snip
Now the anti-Bible zealots want to mutilate children before they reach
puberty, to prevent boys from developing a physical advantage. We are
getting into deep trouble...
As usual you don\'t know the first thing about anything. Some of these \"girls,\" and I\'m talking about natural born woman, are stronger than most men athletes.
nonsense, they might be stronger than your common couch potato man, but they are no match for even average male athletes.
You\'ve lead a sheltered life. I know at least one woman who was stronger than the average male athlete. She wasn\'t in the least average - she was a member of the Australian national woman\'s netball team when I knew her.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/netball/boys-netball-team-hits-back-after-title-win-over-girls-sparks-uproar/news-story/11a96e05f6481ac113191c9aabdc7e72
What we are discussing here is the extent to which the male and female \"strength\" bell curves overlap.

There\'s no question that high strength tail of the male distribution goes higher that the tail of the corresponding female distribution, but the female distribution does include females who are stronger than most males.

Your example doesn\'t address that point, as you should have been able to realise.

Just because there are a few physically strong women is not a reason to let men compete against women!

That isn\'t the reason transgender people are allowed to compete as members of the sex they\'d have preferred to be born into. It\'s mainly about treating them in a way that keeps them reasonably happy - as in not committing suicide.

Those few strong women should be the winners against other women, not the losers against previous men.

They probably wouldn\'t be. \"Previous men\" aren\'t drawn exclusively from from the fit and muscular tail of the male distribution, but pretty much at random from the whole distribution.

Well that\'s pretty true of those that perform in sports.

Random distribution of men are still going to be stronger than random strong women.

That\'s a statistically illiterate claim.

> Just think fairness and you will be OK. FAIRNESS, get it?

John Doe does like wittering on about \"fairness\". He wants to be grossly unkind to the unfortunate suffers from gender dysphoria, so he uses \"fairness\" as bludgeon. It\'s vile behavior, but it keeps him happy.

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