OT: Time Travel?

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Rich Grise

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My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich
 
Rich Grise wrote:

My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....
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Google "delayed choice experiment"

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
Rich Grise wrote:
My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich
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I figure that the neck tie proves the existence
of time travel. The neck tie is so stupid that
it could have only been invented by someone who
was already wearing one.



--
local optimization seldom leads to global optimization

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:30 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:

My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich
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We ask our customers to pay net/30, 45 max by mutual agreement, and
most of them do. The hardest case was a company in Ireland, who never
paid on time. I hear that European companies typically pay slowly, six
months sometimes.

John
 
John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:30 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich



We ask our customers to pay net/30, 45 max by mutual agreement, and
most of them do. The hardest case was a company in Ireland, who never
paid on time. I hear that European companies typically pay slowly, six
months sometimes.
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That's true, and the ones that do I make a point of never working for again.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:30 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:

My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....
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_Even_ you?

Oh my...

--
John Fields
 
Roy McCammon wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for present
goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich


I figure that the neck tie proves the existence
of time travel. The neck tie is so stupid that
it could have only been invented by someone who
was already wearing one.
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Invented by Marxists in case they can't find a handy rope come the revolution.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPland
THIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote (in <j936l01di7vhratvd2tgapln3rr3kn7od2@
4ax.com>) about 'OT: Time Travel?', on Thu, 23 Sep 2004:

We ask our customers to pay net/30, 45 max by mutual agreement, and most
of them do. The hardest case was a company in Ireland, who never paid on
time. I hear that European companies typically pay slowly, six months
sometimes.
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There has been a lot of abuse in the past, largely by really big
companies not paying SMEs. But things are a BIT better now: there is a
statutory right to compensatory interest, although it's difficult to
enforce. More pressure is applied through the accountancy regulations,
AIUI, which are much tougher than in USA.

I have three sets of terms: normal net 30 days, 60 days by arrangement
with 3% uplift, and for published writing, net 10 days after
publication. I don't have any delinquent accounts at present.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
On Thursday 23 September 2004 01:06 pm, John Woodgate did deign to grace us
with the following:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <null@example.net

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

You are actually depending on something that indeed IS an axiom - that
future days will be much like past days; an axiom that is only
conditionally valuable. It is dreadfully traumatic when you find that
9/11 isn't at all the same as 9/10. Or that 12/07 isn't the same as
12/06.
--
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You make a very good point here, and one I've alluded to in my
lectures about defensive driving. I say stuff like "About the only
thing you can depend on the other drivers to do is be unpredictable.
About the only safe assumption you can make about any vehicle in the
vicinity is that it will probably pretty much obey Newton's Laws
of Motion for the next few seconds, anyway."

Cheers!
Rich
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <null@example.net>
wrote (in <7gG4d.9318$Bg5.1928@trnddc07>) about 'OT: Time Travel?', on
Thu, 23 Sep 2004:

You make a very good point here
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My speciality (British spelling), or hadn't you noticed. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:22:27 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


You make a very good point here, and one I've alluded to in my
lectures about defensive driving. I say stuff like "About the only
thing you can depend on the other drivers to do is be unpredictable.
About the only safe assumption you can make about any vehicle in the
vicinity is that it will probably pretty much obey Newton's Laws
of Motion for the next few seconds, anyway."
Click to expand...
---
Unless the vehicle starts to go seriously relativistic, I think you
can bretty much bet on that I'll obey Newton's Laws for as long as you
care to watch it.

--
John Fields
 
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:54:48 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:30 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:

My proclamation that time travel is flatly impossible because
of the metaphysics involved is evidently contrary to conventional
wisdom, as evinced by the fact that apparently, (at least in the
US) people have a whole lot of faith in the future - look at the
number of people spending future money, and possibly more telling,
the number of people who accept future money in payment for
present goods & services. :)

Heck, even I'm working for future money. Hmmmm.....

Cheers!
Rich


We ask our customers to pay net/30, 45 max by mutual agreement, and
most of them do. The hardest case was a company in Ireland, who never
paid on time. I hear that European companies typically pay slowly, six
months sometimes.

John
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One of the biggest advantages of consulting arrangements... "Your
project is on hold for non-payment; work will resume 10 days after
payment is received."

It's fun to watch accounting people start jumping thru hoops... I
often get payment FedEx'd overnight after I E-mail such a statement.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Thursday 23 September 2004 01:25 pm, Jim Thompson did deign to grace us
with the following:

(But I have been known to tail a drunk, call 911, and direct a
convergence of cops onto the scene... nothing more thrilling than
seeing that many cop-cars all at once :)
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Seeing them from the other end. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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