OT: Thinking about retirement? Go East, old man!...

[Cursitor Doom]

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 8:06:46 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians

And any place tolerant enough to take in a twerp like Cursitor Doom would take in enough twerps to become a very dubious retirement destination.

It\'s the Groucho Marx problem - he wouldn\'t join any club whose standards were low enough to admit him.

Australia has several ex-prime minsters who were obnoxious enough to get voted out of their seats in parliament - Tony Abbot and John Howard - so Curistor Doom might fit in here, but we\'ve already got rather more right-wing half-wits than we need.

> But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

And Cursitor Doom wouldn\'t be let in anywhere that came close.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel, South Korea, or Japan if you\'re
not Israeli, South Korean, or Japanese.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:59:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.

Yes, you did mention that before if you recall. I asked you why you
thought it was that things were more expensive in Florida.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:25:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel, South Korea, or Japan if you\'re
not Israeli, South Korean, or Japanese.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel even if you are Israeli.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:48:34 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:25:12 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel, South Korea, or Japan if you\'re
not Israeli, South Korean, or Japanese.
You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel even if you are Israeli.

Have you considered Cameroon? It\'s a real paradise.

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 10:45 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:59:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.

Yes, you did mention that before if you recall. I asked you why you
thought it was that things were more expensive in Florida.

Most everywhere in the US housing demand outstrips supply, and
COVID-19/remote work has made Florida particularly attractive for
high-income white-collar professionals. Like if you could work from
anywhere in the US for about the same salary would it be Florida or
somewhere with a climate more like Norway (e.g. Massachusetts?)

Who push up prices in a given area and then tend to want to pull up the
ladder behind them and prevent higher-density construction to preserve
said property values/\"neighborhood ambience.\"

For working-class people who can\'t telecommute it looks decent on paper
but you\'re only paying 16% less on average than MA and for certain stuff
like food, clothing, and housing the difference is almost negligible.
Meanwhile your costs for health care/health insurance and property
insurance/auto insurance are almost sure to go up, while you\'re almost
certain to be taking a pay cut simultaneously.

Also as I mentioned because Florida is full of retirees, tourists,
dreamers, wanna-be \"players\", \"aspiring actresses\"/sex workers (there
are like, 50 strip clubs in Tampa alone, almost as common as McDonald\'s)
able and willing to be bilked of their cash. It\'s like Los Angeles and
Vegas in that respect, place where for people who aren\'t well-to-do
already, a few dreams are made but most dreams go to die.

If you want to save real money as compared to living in the Northeast
(or the UK for that matter) you\'d move to Ohio or Arkansas or something.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:47:04 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:59:24 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.
Yes, you did mention that before if you recall. I asked you why you
thought it was that things were more expensive in Florida.

Horrendously mis-developed place for the most part. You would need to live in the northern extremes of the state to see normalcy. But then you might as well live in Georgia or Alabama.

https://www.businessinsider.com/moving-to-florida-cheaper-save-money-taxes-cost-of-living-2023-1

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 1:55 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:47:04 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:59:24 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.
Yes, you did mention that before if you recall. I asked you why you
thought it was that things were more expensive in Florida.

Horrendously mis-developed place for the most part. You would need to live in the northern extremes of the state to see normalcy. But then you might as well live in Georgia or Alabama.

https://www.businessinsider.com/moving-to-florida-cheaper-save-money-taxes-cost-of-living-2023-1

Also has the most wretched traffic in the nation, hopefully you don\'t
have to actually drive anywhere. Which you will if you can\'t work from
home but also want to get what good deals that are left on housing

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

Just move to Hunstville AL. You can have 75% of Florida\'s climate for
the same COL as the UK.

<https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/cost-of-living/united-kingdom/huntsville-c8144>

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 14:12:34 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 1:55 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:47:04?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:59:24 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 7:24 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 6:06:46?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

All those BEST lists are superficial garbage. And quite a lot of their inputs are judgment calls or falsified data.

You have to have a relatively high income to make Florida\'s so-called
\"low cost of living\" attractive. Yeah there\'s no property or income tax
but depending on where you are your effective sales tax can be 8% with
only limited exceptions, and the price of just about everything else is
higher than the national average.
Yes, you did mention that before if you recall. I asked you why you
thought it was that things were more expensive in Florida.

Horrendously mis-developed place for the most part. You would need to live in the northern extremes of the state to see normalcy. But then you might as well live in Georgia or Alabama.

https://www.businessinsider.com/moving-to-florida-cheaper-save-money-taxes-cost-of-living-2023-1

Also has the most wretched traffic in the nation, hopefully you don\'t
have to actually drive anywhere. Which you will if you can\'t work from
home but also want to get what good deals that are left on housing

That\'s one of the reasons I left south-east England. The place has
become so massively overcrowded, the price of everything has gone
through the roof and the infrastructure cannot cope with the
uncontrolled influx. It\'s one massive traffic jam. So many of the
people I left behind tell me they just can\'t wait to GTFO of the
place. Shame, as it used to be really lovely when I was growing up
there.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:48:34?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:25:12 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel, South Korea, or Japan if you\'re
not Israeli, South Korean, or Japanese.
You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel even if you are Israeli.

Have you considered Cameroon? It\'s a real paradise.

Well, this is another thing that grinds my gears. There are some
fabulous places to live in Africa; incredibly beautiful. But despite
the fact that Africans seem to be able to invade Europe with no issues
at all, as a white man trying to up sticks and move to Africa, I\'d be
dead meat, robbed and left for dead within a year at most of
re-settling there - guaranteed. So migration appears to be a one
direction trend not suitable for Europeans!

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 14:19:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

Just move to Hunstville AL. You can have 75% of Florida\'s climate for
the same COL as the UK.

https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/cost-of-living/united-kingdom/huntsville-c8144

I\'ll wager the tax situation isn\'t nearly as favourable, though.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 08-May-23 8:06 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Australia - Australians

You need to be more precise. Here in Aussie land we\'re busy trying to
draw a constitutional distinction between indigenous[*] and
non-indigenous Australians.

Sylvia

[*] Indigenous means some non-zero amount of aboriginal DNA, together
with self-identification as indigenous and recognition as indigenous by
other indigenous people. A certain amount of boot-strapping is required.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Wed, 10 May 2023 15:00:16 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

On 08-May-23 8:06 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Australia - Australians

You need to be more precise. Here in Aussie land we\'re busy trying to
draw a constitutional distinction between indigenous[*] and
non-indigenous Australians.

Good point. I hope I didn\'t offend any Abbos reading this. ;-)

Sylvia

[*] Indigenous means some non-zero amount of aboriginal DNA, together
with self-identification as indigenous and recognition as indigenous by
other indigenous people. A certain amount of boot-strapping is required.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 6:15:28 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 10 May 2023 15:00:16 +1000, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid
wrote:
On 08-May-23 8:06 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Australia - Australians

You need to be more precise. Here in Aussie land we\'re busy trying to
draw a constitutional distinction between indigenous[*] and
non-indigenous Australians.

Good point. I hope I didn\'t offend any Abbos reading this. ;-)

Calling them \"abos\" isn\'t at all polite. \"Aboriginal Australians\" isn\'t all that popular either. \"Indigenous Australians\" is preferred.

Since you are a half-wit Pom nobody will get all that upset - it isn\'t as if they get taken seriously here.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 5/8/2023 2:30 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:48:34?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:25:12 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 5/8/2023 6:06 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-best-us-states-retirement

And abroad:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2022/


However, I have issues with the ranking of this list. I\'ll take the
top 5 countries and list their *major* drawbacks alongside.

Norway - Completely dark for weeks on end in winter

Switzerland - Fucking expensive

Iceland - the clue\'s in the name

Ireland - seriously??

Australia - Australians


But let\'s face it: nowhere\'s perfect.

You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel, South Korea, or Japan if you\'re
not Israeli, South Korean, or Japanese.
You\'re going to be unhappy in Israel even if you are Israeli.

Have you considered Cameroon? It\'s a real paradise.

Well, this is another thing that grinds my gears. There are some
fabulous places to live in Africa; incredibly beautiful. But despite
the fact that Africans seem to be able to invade Europe with no issues
at all, as a white man trying to up sticks and move to Africa, I\'d be
dead meat, robbed and left for dead within a year at most of
re-settling there - guaranteed. So migration appears to be a one
direction trend not suitable for Europeans!

You\'ll probably get to have an African immigrant prepping your meals and
wiping your bum in the old folks home, I hope they pay them pretty good
as I expect it\'ll be a pretty thankless job otherwise.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Wed, 10 May 2023 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 6:15:28?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 10 May 2023 15:00:16 +1000, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid
wrote:
On 08-May-23 8:06 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

Australia - Australians

You need to be more precise. Here in Aussie land we\'re busy trying to
draw a constitutional distinction between indigenous[*] and
non-indigenous Australians.

Good point. I hope I didn\'t offend any Abbos reading this. ;-)

Calling them \"abos\" isn\'t at all polite. \"Aboriginal Australians\" isn\'t all that popular either. \"Indigenous Australians\" is preferred.

Since you are a half-wit Pom nobody will get all that upset - it isn\'t as if they get taken seriously here.

Possibly, but that\'s all Cultural Marxist BS and only applies between
persons of a Left-leaning disposition engaged in virtue-signaling
between themselves. Conservatives like myself are not obliged to use
the ever-changing daft labels people like you dream up, I\'m afraid.
Nice try anyway, sunshine.