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Since around mid-2014, Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi has been enjoying a huge
success here in India selling mid-range mobile phones at prices no other
company could touch. The phones are sold exclusively at a popular online
shop in weekly flash sales. Pre-registration is mandatory on a "one phone
per registered user per sale" basis. I bought one for my wife and
subsequently several more for others who don't have the internet-savvy
and/or online payment facility to make the purchase themselves. These are
all close friends and relatives and I don't do it for profit although some
of them voluntarily give me something extra for the time and effort I put
in.

After last week's sale, the shop apparently wised up to the fact that more
than one phone was going to the same address. Their email didn't quite come
right out and say that I bought more than one phone at one sale. They said
"......in order to provide all customers an equal opportunity to avail this
great deal we had to cancel the following items in your Order......" A bit
annoying but understandable when considered from their point of view.

More annoying was a phone text message they sent at the same time saying
that my order was cancelled because the courier could not deliver it to my
address. An obvious lie probably made up in a hurry. Anyway, the phones had
come more than half-way already when they sent the email and the phone
message. _Really_ annoying is the notification the shop left in my account:
It says that they have scheduled a pick up for the item I wish to refund. I
wish to refund??!!

The phones are now in my hands but I won't pass them out yet until I've
sorted things out with the shop. But I have no intention of returning them
even if the shop actually sends a courier to pick them up. What do you think
of the whole thing?
 
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:13:49 +0530, "Pimpom" <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Since around mid-2014, Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi has been enjoying a huge
success here in India selling mid-range mobile phones at prices no other
company could touch. The phones are sold exclusively at a popular online
shop in weekly flash sales. Pre-registration is mandatory on a "one phone
per registered user per sale" basis. I bought one for my wife and
subsequently several more for others who don't have the internet-savvy
and/or online payment facility to make the purchase themselves. These are
all close friends and relatives and I don't do it for profit although some
of them voluntarily give me something extra for the time and effort I put
in.

After last week's sale, the shop apparently wised up to the fact that more
than one phone was going to the same address. Their email didn't quite come
right out and say that I bought more than one phone at one sale. They said
"......in order to provide all customers an equal opportunity to avail this
great deal we had to cancel the following items in your Order......" A bit
annoying but understandable when considered from their point of view.

More annoying was a phone text message they sent at the same time saying
that my order was cancelled because the courier could not deliver it to my
address. An obvious lie probably made up in a hurry. Anyway, the phones had
come more than half-way already when they sent the email and the phone
message. _Really_ annoying is the notification the shop left in my account:
It says that they have scheduled a pick up for the item I wish to refund. I
wish to refund??!!

The phones are now in my hands but I won't pass them out yet until I've
sorted things out with the shop. But I have no intention of returning them
even if the shop actually sends a courier to pick them up. What do you think
of the whole thing?

Are the phones locked to a specific carrier? If not, Xiaomi has no
way to prevent their use. I don't know if there's any controlling law
in your country, but I'd tend to ignore the shop... unless, of course,
they can nail your credit card with a big charge :-(

...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:13:49 +0530, "Pimpom"
Pimpom@invalid.invalid
wrote:

Since around mid-2014, Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi has been
enjoying
a huge success here in India selling mid-range mobile phones
at
prices no other company could touch. The phones are sold
exclusively
at a popular online shop in weekly flash sales.
Pre-registration is
mandatory on a "one phone per registered user per sale" basis.
I
bought one for my wife and subsequently several more for
others who
don't have the internet-savvy and/or online payment facility
to make
the purchase themselves. These are all close friends and
relatives
and I don't do it for profit although some of them voluntarily
give
me something extra for the time and effort I put in.

After last week's sale, the shop apparently wised up to the
fact
that more than one phone was going to the same address. Their
email
didn't quite come right out and say that I bought more than
one
phone at one sale. They said "......in order to provide all
customers an equal opportunity to avail this great deal we had
to
cancel the following items in your Order......" A bit annoying
but
understandable when considered from their point of view.

More annoying was a phone text message they sent at the same
time
saying that my order was cancelled because the courier could
not
deliver it to my address. An obvious lie probably made up in a
hurry. Anyway, the phones had come more than half-way already
when
they sent the email and the phone message. _Really_ annoying
is the
notification the shop left in my account: It says that they
have
scheduled a pick up for the item I wish to refund. I wish to
refund??!!

The phones are now in my hands but I won't pass them out yet
until
I've sorted things out with the shop. But I have no intention
of
returning them even if the shop actually sends a courier to
pick
them up. What do you think of the whole thing?


Are the phones locked to a specific carrier?

No.

If not, Xiaomi has no
way to prevent their use. I don't know if there's any
controlling law
in your country, but I'd tend to ignore the shop...

I don't see how the law in any country could be used against my
purchase. The only condition imposed was "One phone per
registered user per sale". Prior to the sale, I had created
separate shop accounts for each of my friends and registered for
the sale with each account. Account creation needed only a
verifiable email address and a password. No name, address, credit
card number, etc. A postal address and phone number have to be
entered at check-out time, that's all.

Then I bought a phone with each account. In effect, my friends
each bought a phone with his/her account. I just did the typing
and mouse-clicking on their behalf. In fact, some of them were
sitting with me at the time of the flash sale. Since I don't make
a profit or offer the phones for sale to the public, I honestly
don't think I violated any legal, ethical or literal aspect of
the shop's terms.

In contrast, I have seen the phones offered for exorbitant prices
at eBay India. Some even blatantly offer to buy the phones at the
next sale for a fee.

unless, of course,
they can nail your credit card with a big charge :-(

I used a debit card :)
I composed a scathing mail to the shop but then decided to give
myself a chance to cool off and perhaps tone down the message
before sending it.
 
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 00:54:46 +0530, "Pimpom" <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:13:49 +0530, "Pimpom"
Pimpom@invalid.invalid
wrote:

Since around mid-2014, Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi has been
enjoying
a huge success here in India selling mid-range mobile phones
at
prices no other company could touch. The phones are sold
exclusively
at a popular online shop in weekly flash sales.
Pre-registration is
mandatory on a "one phone per registered user per sale" basis.
I
bought one for my wife and subsequently several more for
others who
don't have the internet-savvy and/or online payment facility
to make
the purchase themselves. These are all close friends and
relatives
and I don't do it for profit although some of them voluntarily
give
me something extra for the time and effort I put in.

After last week's sale, the shop apparently wised up to the
fact
that more than one phone was going to the same address. Their
email
didn't quite come right out and say that I bought more than
one
phone at one sale. They said "......in order to provide all
customers an equal opportunity to avail this great deal we had
to
cancel the following items in your Order......" A bit annoying
but
understandable when considered from their point of view.

More annoying was a phone text message they sent at the same
time
saying that my order was cancelled because the courier could
not
deliver it to my address. An obvious lie probably made up in a
hurry. Anyway, the phones had come more than half-way already
when
they sent the email and the phone message. _Really_ annoying
is the
notification the shop left in my account: It says that they
have
scheduled a pick up for the item I wish to refund. I wish to
refund??!!

The phones are now in my hands but I won't pass them out yet
until
I've sorted things out with the shop. But I have no intention
of
returning them even if the shop actually sends a courier to
pick
them up. What do you think of the whole thing?


Are the phones locked to a specific carrier?

No.

If not, Xiaomi has no
way to prevent their use. I don't know if there's any
controlling law
in your country, but I'd tend to ignore the shop...

I don't see how the law in any country could be used against my
purchase. The only condition imposed was "One phone per
registered user per sale". Prior to the sale, I had created
separate shop accounts for each of my friends and registered for
the sale with each account. Account creation needed only a
verifiable email address and a password. No name, address, credit
card number, etc. A postal address and phone number have to be
entered at check-out time, that's all.

Then I bought a phone with each account. In effect, my friends
each bought a phone with his/her account. I just did the typing
and mouse-clicking on their behalf. In fact, some of them were
sitting with me at the time of the flash sale. Since I don't make
a profit or offer the phones for sale to the public, I honestly
don't think I violated any legal, ethical or literal aspect of
the shop's terms.

In contrast, I have seen the phones offered for exorbitant prices
at eBay India. Some even blatantly offer to buy the phones at the
next sale for a fee.

unless, of course,
they can nail your credit card with a big charge :-(


I used a debit card :)
I composed a scathing mail to the shop but then decided to give
myself a chance to cool off and perhaps tone down the message
before sending it.

Probably still scathe, but simply advise them what you did for each
friend. They'll probably stop trying to annoy.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 

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