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Davej
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Back of the napkin calculation... virus to human vs. human to sun?
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Pimpom
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On 4/10/2020 7:08 PM, Davej wrote:
The average adult human is roughly 15 million times bigger than
Coronavirus 2. The sun is roughly 800 million times as big as an
average adult human.
The average adult human is roughly 15 million times bigger than
Coronavirus 2. The sun is roughly 800 million times as big as an
average adult human.
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Phil Hobbs
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On 2020-04-10 17:05, Pimpom wrote:
Yup. 100 nm : 1 m : 10000 km.
So it's more like virus : man :: man : Earth.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Yup. 100 nm : 1 m : 10000 km.
So it's more like virus : man :: man : Earth.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:542eb6f2-04df-15da-ed81-91dfb9d5a682@electrooptical.net:
Flu virus is 0.15 microns diameter.
Corona virus is 0.08 microns
Equivalent human diameter? I could not find that number.
news:542eb6f2-04df-15da-ed81-91dfb9d5a682@electrooptical.net:
Flu virus is 0.15 microns diameter.
Corona virus is 0.08 microns
Equivalent human diameter? I could not find that number.
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mpm
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:07:16 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Try WeightWatchers.com
Try WeightWatchers.com
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Phil Hobbs
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On 2020-04-10 19:07, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Look at the label in your jeans.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Look at the label in your jeans.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote in
news:01197a89-e4d3-4082-ab23-d789f10d44af@googlegroups.com:
Most humans make a ball smaller than 2m. 2m is HUGE, but 1m is not
quite enough for most adults, so.. somewhere in there.
for 1m
A Covid19 is one 12 millionth the diameter of a 1m human.
I have severe Psoriasis (Psoriasis Vulgaris)and have wondered for
years if my open wounds make me vulnerable to attack or perhaps less
vulnerable because small ingress events generate good antibodies.
I am talking about a half square foot patch on each lower leg.
Ranges from White thick crust to bleeding bare strips of oozing skin
after a session of itch abatement.
Almost beat it once with an immune suppressor, but no way am I
going to hamper my immune response to fight bad skin and have this
retarded Trump Embraced Virus kill me.
news:01197a89-e4d3-4082-ab23-d789f10d44af@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:07:16 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flu virus is 0.15 microns diameter.
Corona virus is 0.08 microns
Equivalent human diameter? I could not find that number.
Try WeightWatchers.com
Most humans make a ball smaller than 2m. 2m is HUGE, but 1m is not
quite enough for most adults, so.. somewhere in there.
for 1m
A Covid19 is one 12 millionth the diameter of a 1m human.
I have severe Psoriasis (Psoriasis Vulgaris)and have wondered for
years if my open wounds make me vulnerable to attack or perhaps less
vulnerable because small ingress events generate good antibodies.
I am talking about a half square foot patch on each lower leg.
Ranges from White thick crust to bleeding bare strips of oozing skin
after a session of itch abatement.
Almost beat it once with an immune suppressor, but no way am I
going to hamper my immune response to fight bad skin and have this
retarded Trump Embraced Virus kill me.
Guest
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:a79c03c9-084b-2227-3e66-ead22c6ae3f2@electrooptical.net:
No. A lot closer to what size a ball of water of your weight would
be is the goal here. Nowhere close to a waistband size.
news:a79c03c9-084b-2227-3e66-ead22c6ae3f2@electrooptical.net:
On 2020-04-10 19:07, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:542eb6f2-04df-15da-ed81-91dfb9d5a682@electrooptical.net:
On 2020-04-10 17:05, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/10/2020 7:08 PM, Davej wrote:
Back of the napkin calculation... virus to human vs. human to
sun?
The average adult human is roughly 15 million times bigger than
Coronavirus 2. The sun is roughly 800 million times as big as an
average adult human.
Yup. 100 nm : 1 m : 10000 km.
So it's more like virus : man :: man : Earth.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Flu virus is 0.15 microns diameter.
Corona virus is 0.08 microns
Equivalent human diameter? I could not find that number.
Look at the label in your jeans.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
No. A lot closer to what size a ball of water of your weight would
be is the goal here. Nowhere close to a waistband size.
Guest
A 1m diameter sphere of water has a mass of pi/6 metric tons, a bit over 1000 lbs. Your waist size is probably a bit smaller.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Guest
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:38:43 -0700 (PDT), Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Back of the napkin calculation... virus to human vs. human to sun?
Sorry for trying to get the discussion ON topic, compare the virus
size with the sizes of structures on silicon that can made with EUV
lithography.
wrote:
>Back of the napkin calculation... virus to human vs. human to sun?
Sorry for trying to get the discussion ON topic, compare the virus
size with the sizes of structures on silicon that can made with EUV
lithography.
Guest
pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote in
news:6d400ac7-1c4c-4c46-8298-2b8875c49694@googlegroups.com:
You tryin' to tell me that I fit inside two one foot cubes (with a bit
left over) then?
Damn... water is heavy and we are foamy. I sure take up more space
than that without being 'reduced'.
What was I thinking!?
How much does a 1m diameter ball of aerogel weigh?
A bit less than 1.5 kg.
news:6d400ac7-1c4c-4c46-8298-2b8875c49694@googlegroups.com:
A 1m diameter sphere of water has a mass of pi/6 metric tons, a
bit over 1000 lbs. Your waist size is probably a bit smaller.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
You tryin' to tell me that I fit inside two one foot cubes (with a bit
left over) then?
Damn... water is heavy and we are foamy. I sure take up more space
than that without being 'reduced'.
What was I thinking!?
How much does a 1m diameter ball of aerogel weigh?
A bit less than 1.5 kg.
Guest
upsidedown@downunder.com wrote in
news:g4o29ft6d7cvejmbctkasi2alvto36e4nt@4ax.com:
A single covid19 virus 'cell' is 80 times bigger than the
transistors on a 10 nm die.
Probably like comparing the worlds biggest ball of yarn with a
baseball.
The IC chip would be like a football field filled with baseballs,
and the ball of yarn out in the middle.
It would be like filling a sheet up with tiny needle tip sized dots
and the virus would be like a grain of salt.
Ball industries, whom are the only makers of round IC chips, IIRC,
could fit a few hundred 10nm transistors on a single covid 19 virus.
news:g4o29ft6d7cvejmbctkasi2alvto36e4nt@4ax.com:
A single covid19 virus 'cell' is 80 times bigger than the
transistors on a 10 nm die.
Probably like comparing the worlds biggest ball of yarn with a
baseball.
The IC chip would be like a football field filled with baseballs,
and the ball of yarn out in the middle.
It would be like filling a sheet up with tiny needle tip sized dots
and the virus would be like a grain of salt.
Ball industries, whom are the only makers of round IC chips, IIRC,
could fit a few hundred 10nm transistors on a single covid 19 virus.
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Ricky C
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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:15:50 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Wrong number. 10 nm would be a minimum feature size, usually considered to be defined by the channel length. The transistor is MUCH larger than this.
Again, check the actual dimensions of a transistor.
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Wrong number. 10 nm would be a minimum feature size, usually considered to be defined by the channel length. The transistor is MUCH larger than this.
Again, check the actual dimensions of a transistor.
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Phil Hobbs
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On 2020-04-11 02:05, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Actually only a little, which is why people can drown in still water.
A 1-m sphere of air weighs about 630 grams at room temperature.
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pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote in
news:6d400ac7-1c4c-4c46-8298-2b8875c49694@googlegroups.com:
A 1m diameter sphere of water has a mass of pi/6 metric tons, a
bit over 1000 lbs. Your waist size is probably a bit smaller.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
You tryin' to tell me that I fit inside two one foot cubes (with a bit
left over) then?
Damn... water is heavy and we are foamy. I sure take up more space
than that without being 'reduced'.
Actually only a little, which is why people can drown in still water.
A 1-m sphere of air weighs about 630 grams at room temperature.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
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Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1197de1b-f323-43b3-a47d-9711569fc863@googlegroups.com:
IC chips are defined by the number of 'transistor elements',
meaning 'switches' and THAT 'feature' is not much bigger than a
standard diode pair. Been that way since the 4004. The 'size'
mentioned is the 'form factor' for chip fabs, but gets its name by
the size of a junction transistor. Diode is two element single
junction. Transistor is two junctions. Not much bigger at all, but
definitely the defining element. Maybe it is not that way any more.
Regardless, one could place a shitload of an array on a single
virus 'cell' at the 10nm node. A couple hundred at least.
news:1197de1b-f323-43b3-a47d-9711569fc863@googlegroups.com:
IC chips are defined by the number of 'transistor elements',
meaning 'switches' and THAT 'feature' is not much bigger than a
standard diode pair. Been that way since the 4004. The 'size'
mentioned is the 'form factor' for chip fabs, but gets its name by
the size of a junction transistor. Diode is two element single
junction. Transistor is two junctions. Not much bigger at all, but
definitely the defining element. Maybe it is not that way any more.
Regardless, one could place a shitload of an array on a single
virus 'cell' at the 10nm node. A couple hundred at least.
J
Jasen Betts
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On 2020-04-11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:
Foamy, stringy, and bony, approximately neutrally boyant in waster.
last time I checked i could sink by exhaling.
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pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote in
news:6d400ac7-1c4c-4c46-8298-2b8875c49694@googlegroups.com:
A 1m diameter sphere of water has a mass of pi/6 metric tons, a
bit over 1000 lbs. Your waist size is probably a bit smaller.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
You tryin' to tell me that I fit inside two one foot cubes (with a bit
left over) then?
Foamy, stringy, and bony, approximately neutrally boyant in waster.
last time I checked i could sink by exhaling.
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Jasen.
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Ricky C
Guest
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence..org wrote:
I'm not going to waste much time explaining this to you. With your track record you will never back away from your mistake. But not only are you completely wrong about the size of a bipolar transistor, but you don't even have the right kind of transistor.
The 4004 you cite and nearly ever complex device made since then were built using MOSFETs, not junction transistors. The power consumption of bipolar transistor is far, far too high to put so many transistors on a die.
Here are a few links about transistor density.
https://www.quora.com/Does-14nm-in-a-processor-mean-that-the-size-of-the-transistor-is-14nm-or-that-the-gap-between-the-transistors-is-14nm-What-are-some-valid-references
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/10_nm_lithography_process
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node
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I'm not going to waste much time explaining this to you. With your track record you will never back away from your mistake. But not only are you completely wrong about the size of a bipolar transistor, but you don't even have the right kind of transistor.
The 4004 you cite and nearly ever complex device made since then were built using MOSFETs, not junction transistors. The power consumption of bipolar transistor is far, far too high to put so many transistors on a die.
Here are a few links about transistor density.
https://www.quora.com/Does-14nm-in-a-processor-mean-that-the-size-of-the-transistor-is-14nm-or-that-the-gap-between-the-transistors-is-14nm-What-are-some-valid-references
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/10_nm_lithography_process
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node
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Jasen Betts
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On 2020-04-11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:
The space under my desk is about 700x700x600mm and I fit in there with
no big problems (that's my earthquake drill done for this year). I'm a
little shorter than average, and my doctor says I'm too short for my weight.
I think a 1M sphere is plenty big enough for most.
Body external surface area is about 2m^2 which is much less than the
surface area of a 1m sphere. and when crouched folds conceal about half of that
area,
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mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote in
news:01197a89-e4d3-4082-ab23-d789f10d44af@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:07:16 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flu virus is 0.15 microns diameter.
Corona virus is 0.08 microns
Equivalent human diameter? I could not find that number.
Try WeightWatchers.com
Most humans make a ball smaller than 2m. 2m is HUGE, but 1m is not
quite enough for most adults, so.. somewhere in there.
The space under my desk is about 700x700x600mm and I fit in there with
no big problems (that's my earthquake drill done for this year). I'm a
little shorter than average, and my doctor says I'm too short for my weight.
I think a 1M sphere is plenty big enough for most.
Body external surface area is about 2m^2 which is much less than the
surface area of a 1m sphere. and when crouched folds conceal about half of that
area,
--
Jasen.
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Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:65e03f9c-6677-
4a9e-b05f-e2d200e332f8@googlegroups.com:
Don't need your pathetic "you can't learn anything" responses. It
makes you look like a total retard.
I knew about chip fabs decades ago. You never learned any people
skill though, fucktard. Ricky, the fucktard. I would say thanks for
the not needed links, but FUCK YOU RICKY TICKY RETARD sound so much
better.
Transistor, fet, doesn't matter, still three connections.
Fairchild had ten.
RCA made a MOSFET with 16 in 1962.
4004 had 2250 at 10 ľm each.
80286 had 134000 at 1.5 ľm each
You jacking off at the mouth about what a manufacturing node size
refers to or the technology is fucking retarded when the discussion
was SIMPLY about how many would fit on a virus spore.
So, yeah... ricky ticky nitty picky jackass... fuck you.
4a9e-b05f-e2d200e332f8@googlegroups.com:
Don't need your pathetic "you can't learn anything" responses. It
makes you look like a total retard.
I knew about chip fabs decades ago. You never learned any people
skill though, fucktard. Ricky, the fucktard. I would say thanks for
the not needed links, but FUCK YOU RICKY TICKY RETARD sound so much
better.
Transistor, fet, doesn't matter, still three connections.
Fairchild had ten.
RCA made a MOSFET with 16 in 1962.
4004 had 2250 at 10 ľm each.
80286 had 134000 at 1.5 ľm each
You jacking off at the mouth about what a manufacturing node size
refers to or the technology is fucking retarded when the discussion
was SIMPLY about how many would fit on a virus spore.
So, yeah... ricky ticky nitty picky jackass... fuck you.
R
Ricky C
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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 9:05:23 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence..org wrote:
This is why I hardly respond to you. I wish others did the same and I pretty much always regret doing it myself.
The only ones who seem to respond to you are the ones who just like having an easy to win argument... with a side of profanity. That always makes the world more interesting. Well, it does if the person spewing it actually knows how to be creatively profane.
Enjoy.
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This is why I hardly respond to you. I wish others did the same and I pretty much always regret doing it myself.
The only ones who seem to respond to you are the ones who just like having an easy to win argument... with a side of profanity. That always makes the world more interesting. Well, it does if the person spewing it actually knows how to be creatively profane.
Enjoy.
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