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[kreed]

Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...


Good afternoon to all,
This e-petition is real and genuine. Dr Vinesh Oommen is a PhD student
at QUT but he has worked in research projects in various parts of the
world for WHO. Therefore, I take his email below quite seriously and
for the first time in my life have actually bothered to sign an e-
petition. I urge you to consider doing the same.

Have a nice weekend.



Vinesh Oommen

Dear Colleagues,

This is the most serious thing that has ever happened to you. In the
new year Anna Bligh is going to put recycled toilet water (not
desalinated water from Tugun). This will include toilet water,
industrial factory, morgue and hospital waste that will go into our
dam drinking supply.

This has not been done in any other country in the world and I have
researched this and she has been advised by all the scientists not to
do it as drugs such as ice, the morning after drug, hormones and many
other things such as radiation from chemotherapy cannot be totally
removed from the water no matter what process you use.

Serious birth defects, miscarriages and many other viruses will
contaminate our precious drinking water. Singapore uses 1% of their
toilet water as they have no fresh water and it is stated that they
are amazed that we are even contemplating using between 10-25% sewer
water and never has another country done it. This is very serious,
our water is our life and our health system would never cope with the
catastrophe that is predicted if she does this. If you don't care
about yourselves think about your children and sign this petition and
forward it on to everyone on your email list. Please!!!!! Note the
number and put down your details this is our future!!!


Please pass this on to as many people as possible. You owe it to your
family and future generations.

Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking purposes

Please sign the petition once you click on the link belowďż˝

Brisbane's water grid will soon be delivering recycled effluent/
sewerage as well as hospital waste, mortuary waste and industrial
waste to householders to be used for domestic purposes (drinking,
cooking, bathing). This is a first-in-the-world living experiment
using a large amount of recycled water (Singapore adds only about 1%
of recycled water to its water supply). Not all pharmaceutical drugs
can be filtered from this waste product.

If you are any of the following - a Queensland resident, a Q'ld
citizen or a Q'ld elector in a nominated electorate - you are eligible
to sign the E-Petition to "Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage
effluent for drinking purposes".

This E-Petition can be accessed via the following link:

www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/EPetitions_QLD/CurrentEPetition.aspx?PetNum=1141&lIndex=-


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[Trevor Wilson]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...



**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe. ALL water is recycled. Every
single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later. As will all the cities in Australia. May as well
get used to it now.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[The Real Andy]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:52:01 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...



**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe. ALL water is recycled. Every
single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later. As will all the cities in Australia. May as well
get used to it now.

The best part about it is you should see the shit the push out
upstream! I have done some work for treatment plants upstream and they
are 10 times worse than what they are going to pump into wivenhoe.
Guess what, you are already drinking shit water!

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 12:52 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:881a01d1-a10b-4254-b118-64438e8d3911@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe. ALL water is recycled. Every
single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later. As will all the cities in Australia. May as
well
get used to it now.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

That is indeed true that all water is recycled.

The problem is that if you had lived under the QLD state government's
barely hidden incompetence and corruption at pretty much all levels,
as well as the open contempt
it shows to QLD citizens you would understand that this government
couldn't be trusted to keep the
maintenance and equipment and therefore the water quality up to
standard. They already admit to not having
technicians and specialists to maintain the infrastructure that's
already there.

I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns
about the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

**Bullshit! The technology for removing heavy metals is well-known and easy
enough to implement.

Finally, with a government that couldn't even keep up basic health,
ambulance, police (another government
department absolutely riddled with corruption - right up to the crime
commission) and other standards
during the recent financial "boom years" when they were rolling in tax
and stamp duty revenue - with the world now looking like its going
into a depression, what hope have they got of providing even basic
essential services
with even less funds coming their way in the future ?

**I accept that you don't like your govenment. None of which matters. ALL
state governments will need to look to water recycling very soon. What
Queenslanders need to do is understand the very basic technology required to
do that job. I have no faith that Queenslanders will be able to undstand
such things. Given the utter nonsense you've just posted, it is abundantly
clear that you have failed to do even basic research into the matter. You
seem to be happy to parrot some red-neck claptrap however.

Of course, with all the drinking of bottled water, alcohol, soft
drink, energy drinks these days that people seem to consume, it could
be interesting to speculate on how much tap water the average person
drinks anymore.
debate how many people actually drink much tap water any more.

**That would be their choice. I consume my water direct from the tap. I
fully expect the NSW government will commence water recycling very soon. I
will, of course, support such moves because I have done the basic research
into the matter. The NSW education system has prepared me for real life.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Bruce Varley]

"The Real Andy" <therealandy@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:52:01 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:




"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:881a01d1-a10b-4254-b118-64438e8d3911@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...



**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe. ALL water is recycled. Every
single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later. As will all the cities in Australia. May as
well
get used to it now.

The best part about it is you should see the shit the push out
upstream! I have done some work for treatment plants upstream and they
are 10 times worse than what they are going to pump into wivenhoe.
Guess what, you are already drinking shit water!

Look at it the other way round. The percentage of water that is drunk is
tiny, most of it goes into toilets, showers, industry and gardens. What's
the sense in treating it all to the enormously high standards required for
drinking? There are plenty of places where the advice is to *not* drink the
reticulated water, and bottled drinking water is available everywhere at
very low prices.

Fully potable reticulated water is just one of the other anachronistic
conveniences that we're going to have to get used to doing without.

 

[kreed]

On Nov 30, 12:52 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:881a01d1-a10b-4254-b118-64438e8d3911@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe. ALL water is recycled. Every
single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later. As will all the cities in Australia. May as well
get used to it now.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

That is indeed true that all water is recycled.

The problem is that if you had lived under the QLD state government's
barely hidden incompetence and corruption at pretty much all levels,
as well as the open contempt
it shows to QLD citizens you would understand that this government
couldn't be trusted to keep the
maintenance and equipment and therefore the water quality up to
standard. They already admit to not having
technicians and specialists to maintain the infrastructure that's
already there.

I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns
about the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

Finally, with a government that couldn't even keep up basic health,
ambulance, police (another government
department absolutely riddled with corruption - right up to the crime
commission) and other standards
during the recent financial "boom years" when they were rolling in tax
and stamp duty revenue - with the world now looking like its going
into a depression, what hope have they got of providing even basic
essential services
with even less funds coming their way in the future ?

Of course, with all the drinking of bottled water, alcohol, soft
drink, energy drinks these days that people seem to consume, it could
be interesting to speculate on how much tap water the average person
drinks anymore.
debate how many people actually drink much tap water any more.

 

[Wayne.]

kreed wrote:

Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?

 

[atec77]

Wayne. wrote:

kreed wrote:
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?
I am very concerned about both , the immediate threat of recycled

medicines is a serious concern as filtering drugs is near impossible .

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"atec77" <atec77REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wayne. wrote:
kreed wrote:
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?
I am very concerned about both , the immediate threat of recycled
medicines is a serious concern as filtering drugs is near impossible .

**I, herewith, present a product of the Queensland education system (such as
it is).

What a moron.

"filtering drugs is near impossible"

Where do you clowns get this stuff from?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[atec77]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...



**Queenslanders are too stupid to breathe.
bad example twevy , we so far have managed to keep you out of state

with good success
ALL water is recycled.
in nature much better than humans manage
Every

single molecule. The Queensland government will need to institute water
recycling sooner or later.
untrue

As will all the cities in Australia.
untrue you goose
May as well

get used to it now.
never

 

[atec77]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"atec77" <atec77REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wayne. wrote:
kreed wrote:
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...
You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?
I am very concerned about both , the immediate threat of recycled
medicines is a serious concern as filtering drugs is near impossible .

**I, herewith, present a product of the Queensland education system (such as
it is).

wrong you kiddy fiddling lowlife
What a moron.

been doing the mirror thing again sunshine ?

"filtering drugs is near impossible"

in the manner and form presented in the rycled medium it is at
reasonable cost just so , read the government gazette sometime

Where do you clowns get this stuff from?

see above you meatpole smoking failure

>

 

[terryc]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:10:16 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns about
the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

**Bullshit! The technology for removing heavy metals is well-known and
easy enough to implement.

err, reference please.
Can you also provide a site that actually does this?

**I accept that you don't like your govenment. None of which matters.

It matters a great deal. It is so easy to cut costs be scimping on
maintenance and oh woops, raw sewerage gets dumped in the drinking water.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
newsan.2008.12.01.03.36.51.124458@woa.com.au...

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:10:16 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns about
the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

**Bullshit! The technology for removing heavy metals is well-known and
easy enough to implement.

err, reference please.
Can you also provide a site that actually does this?

**A "site"? Lemme see. Oh yeah, I can do it in my kitchen. It'll take me 5
minutes to set up two different methods. OTOH, here is another place:

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/education_and_learning/environment/water/wrams

Is that the kind of "site" you mean? Or do you mean 'cite'? If so, I can
provide you with enough cites to keep you busy for the next few decades. For
the record: Heavy metals are pretty much the easiest stuff to remove from
water. As usual, Queenlanders, rather than finding out the truth, have
sucked up some complete bollocks from scare-mongers and are promulgating it
as fact. No wonder they kept voting for Joh.

Are you a Queenslander too?

**I accept that you don't like your govenment. None of which matters.

It matters a great deal. It is so easy to cut costs be scimping on
maintenance and oh woops, raw sewerage gets dumped in the drinking water.

**It is easy enough to arrange it so this cannot occur. Rampant paranoia,
amongst Queenslanders, notwithstanding. In any case, it is likely that any
recycled water system will not be fed into the drinking water system. It
would be used for other purposes. Drinking water comprises a miniscule
proportion of water consumption.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[kreed]

On Dec 1, 12:25 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"atec77" <atec77REM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Wayne. wrote:
kreed wrote:
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?
I am very concerned about both , the immediate threat of recycled
medicines is a serious concern as filtering drugs is near impossible .

**I, herewith, present a product of the Queensland education system (such as
it is).

What a moron.

"filtering drugs is near impossible"

Where do you clowns get this stuff from?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

A man who can't contribute anything to the discussion without calling
anyone not in full agreement with him some sort of retarded,
uneducated red neck - even bringing up Joh (who left QLD politics over
20 years ago and is long forgotten by most) who has nothing to do with
the current water or government situation. Im surprised that something
about a "pedophile" hasnt been brought up yet.

Finally your infantile and repeated "Queensland bashing" comments are
a bit rich when many of the moronic comments, and insults seen on this
group for the past 7 years I have been reading it seem to come from
anywhere but QLD. Would also like to point out, that in many parts of
QLD, are significant numbers of former NSW and VIC residents, many who
moved to QLD to retire.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 1, 12:25 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"atec77" <atec77REM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:ggvhaj$l0d$1@aioe.org...

Wayne. wrote:
kreed wrote:
Re: Prohibit the use of recycled sewerage effluent for drinking
purposes...

You are worried about recycled water, but not fluoride?
I am very concerned about both , the immediate threat of recycled
medicines is a serious concern as filtering drugs is near impossible .

**I, herewith, present a product of the Queensland education system (such
as
it is).

What a moron.

"filtering drugs is near impossible"

Where do you clowns get this stuff from?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

A man who can't contribute anything to the discussion without calling
anyone not in full agreement with him some sort of retarded,

**This has NOTHING to do with agreement or disagreement. It has everything
to do with fact and common-sense.

uneducated red neck - even bringing up Joh (who left QLD politics over
20 years ago and is long forgotten by most) who has nothing to do with
the current water or government situation. Im surprised that something
about a "pedophile" hasnt been brought up yet.

**Let me remind you: YOU brought up the topic of some bogus, ill-conceived
and just plain moronic petition. YOU brought that stupidity into the public
domain.

Finally your infantile and repeated "Queensland bashing" comments are
a bit rich when many of the moronic comments,

**Well, no. Only Queenslanders appear to be concerned about something the
rest of the country has taken for granted. I suggest you talk to some of the
people who have been using recycled water for the best part of a decade,
BEFORE posting your inane requests to sign your silly petition.

and insults seen on this
group for the past 7 years I have been reading it seem to come from
anywhere but QLD. Would also like to point out, that in many parts of
QLD, are significant numbers of former NSW and VIC residents, many who
moved to QLD to retire.

**Indeed. I, of course, refer specifically to those who have been educated
by the Queensland education system. Not those who have moved there from
other states.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:55:11 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
newsan.2008.12.01.03.36.51.124458@woa.com.au...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:10:16 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns about
the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

**Bullshit! The technology for removing heavy metals is well-known and
easy enough to implement.

err, reference please.
Can you also provide a site that actually does this?

**A "site"? Lemme see. Oh yeah, I can do it in my kitchen. It'll take me 5
minutes to set up two different methods. OTOH, here is another place:

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/education_and_learning/environment/water/wrams

Oh dear,and which education system are you aproduct of?

"Approximately 40% is used for toilet flushing and the remaining 60% is
used for irrigation and operational wash-down activities."

Is that the kind of "site" you mean? Or do you mean 'cite'? If so, I can
provide you with enough cites to keep you busy for the next few decades.

But you didn't provide one despite your spelling nit pick.

**It is easy enough to arrange it so this cannot occur. Rampant
paranoia, amongst Queenslanders, notwithstanding. In any case, it is
likely that any recycled water system will not be fed into the drinking
water system. It would be used for other purposes. Drinking water
comprises a miniscule proportion of water consumption.

Lol, let me guess, you are another clueless Sydney sider who has no idea
who arsehole your drinking water has already passed through.

Apart from being unable to follow the thread.

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:26:11 +1000, atec77 wrote:

ALL water is recycled.
in nature much better than humans manage Every
single molecule.

Sadly nature doesn't. There are some chemicals that humans are now
creating that are just toxifying nature.

The Queensland government will
need to institute water
recycling sooner or later.
untrue
As will all the cities in Australia.
untrue you goose

Unless we soon adopt the chinese solution of one child families, it is
going to be reduce, reuse and recycle. Melbourne is about to start
stealing water from farmers just to keep their porcelain throes
flushing.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
newsan.2008.12.01.22.18.23.975954@woa.com.au...

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:55:11 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:




"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
newsan.2008.12.01.03.36.51.124458@woa.com.au...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:10:16 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:


I also know a water treatment specialist, he has serious concerns about
the
heavy metals found in excrement, that are not able to be removed
effectively.

**Bullshit! The technology for removing heavy metals is well-known and
easy enough to implement.

err, reference please.
Can you also provide a site that actually does this?

**A "site"? Lemme see. Oh yeah, I can do it in my kitchen. It'll take me
5
minutes to set up two different methods. OTOH, here is another place:

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/education_and_learning/environment/water/wrams

Oh dear,and which education system are you aproduct of?

**NSW State Education.

"Approximately 40% is used for toilet flushing and the remaining 60% is
used for irrigation and operational wash-down activities."

**And what part of that suggests that a petition is a sane idea? In any
case, you asked for a cite. I provided it. Want more? I can keep you busy
for the next decade or so, if you really want to know. Much better that you
should educate yourself, than rely on propaganda promulgated by idiots.

Is that the kind of "site" you mean? Or do you mean 'cite'? If so, I can
provide you with enough cites to keep you busy for the next few decades.

But you didn't provide one despite your spelling nit pick.

**You don't read so good, do you?

**It is easy enough to arrange it so this cannot occur. Rampant
paranoia, amongst Queenslanders, notwithstanding. In any case, it is
likely that any recycled water system will not be fed into the drinking
water system. It would be used for other purposes. Drinking water
comprises a miniscule proportion of water consumption.

Lol, let me guess, you are another clueless Sydney sider who has no idea
who arsehole your drinking water has already passed through.

**Nor do you. ALL water is recycled. Many times.

Apart from being unable to follow the thread.

**I know that a person who has probably never had an original thought, has
latched onto some nonsensical ideas and has decided to make it political. I
just debunked his nonsense and called his educational standards into
question. You are a product of the Queensland education system, aren't you?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[terryc]

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:47:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Approximately 40% is used for toilet flushing and the remaining 60% is
used for irrigation and operational wash-down activities."

**And what part of that suggests that a petition is a sane idea? In any
case, you asked for a cite. I provided it. Want more? I can keep you busy
for the next decade or so, if you really want to know. Much better that
you should educate yourself, than rely on propaganda promulgated by
idiots.

Find one where it is used for drinkng water please.
That is the whole point.

 

[kreed]

On Dec 3, 7:39 am, terryc <newssixspam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:47:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Approximately 40% is used for toilet flushing and the remaining 60% is
used for irrigation and operational wash-down activities."

**And what part of that suggests that a petition is a sane idea? In any
case, you asked for a cite. I provided it. Want more? I can keep you busy
for the next decade or so, if you really want to know. Much better that
you should educate yourself, than rely on propaganda promulgated by
idiots.

Find one where it is used for drinkng water please.
That is the whole point.

Don't waste your time, he will just hit back with more of his insults

to hide behind, that are of a "white trash"
level anyway.

From the posts on here, I would question the standards of his
educational system, particularly in relation to manners.