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I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?
 
On 8/19/20 2:14 PM, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

No idea. You might try the alt.home.repair group. Some
practical minded people there.
 
onsdag den 19. august 2020 kl. 21.14.37 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

just paint over the it?
 
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious stress
corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and ethanol
might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in the
medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 2020-08-19, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

alcohol will attack acrylic, was acrylic paint used?

caustic soda is probalby also worth a try,

acetone is best avoided.


--
Jasen.
 
On 8/20/2020 3:33 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious stress
corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and ethanol
might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in the
medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.

Yeah I got a piece I can lose. I\'ll report my results...I could just
paint over it but errrgh. Too much paint after it\'s primed and the new
paint is applied, lose detail
 
On 8/20/2020 8:46 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-08-19, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

alcohol will attack acrylic, was acrylic paint used?

caustic soda is probalby also worth a try,

acetone is best avoided.

Acetone is pretty harsh stuff, I only use it for a PCB that has some
really stubborn gunk on it and have to keep it far from any plastics as
it seems to attack a lot of them. denatured ethanol is my go-to for
light PCB cleaning
 
On 8/20/2020 3:33 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a couple
days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail. Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious stress
corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and ethanol
might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in the
medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.

The isopropyl actually worked really well on my test piece, N scale
heavyweight coach by Rivarossi. Better than I was expecting.

About 8 hours soak and the paint starts sliding right off, a good scrub
with a toothbrush is then enough to take it down to the bare plastic
without much trouble. It\'s not an aggressive stripper tho and doesn\'t
seem to harm the plastic at all.
 
On 21/08/2020 17:13, bitrex wrote:
On 8/20/2020 3:33 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a
couple days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail.
Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious stress
corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and ethanol
might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in the
medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.


The isopropyl actually worked really well on my test piece, N scale
heavyweight coach by Rivarossi. Better than I was expecting.

About 8 hours soak and the paint starts sliding right off, a good scrub
with a toothbrush is then enough to take it down to the bare plastic
without much trouble. It\'s not an aggressive stripper tho and doesn\'t
seem to harm the plastic at all.

Leave it a week or two before you do another one just in case.
I think IPA should be OK so long as there is no methanol in it.

My engines are Hornby OO and and 3.5\" gauge live steam.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 8/21/2020 12:20 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/08/2020 17:13, bitrex wrote:
On 8/20/2020 3:33 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove the
factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a
couple days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail.
Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious stress
corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and ethanol
might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in the
medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.


The isopropyl actually worked really well on my test piece, N scale
heavyweight coach by Rivarossi. Better than I was expecting.

About 8 hours soak and the paint starts sliding right off, a good
scrub with a toothbrush is then enough to take it down to the bare
plastic without much trouble. It\'s not an aggressive stripper tho and
doesn\'t seem to harm the plastic at all.

Leave it a week or two before you do another one just in case.
I think IPA should be OK so long as there is no methanol in it.

My engines are Hornby OO and and 3.5\" gauge live steam.

With a little work and some new trucks and details these Model Power
heavyweight coaches:

<https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rjIAAOSwO5BegTM9/s-l640.jpg>

Aren\'t a bad likeness for the New Haven\'s 1930s-era coaches, seen here
awaiting scrapping at Boston South Station in the late 60s sometime,
probably:

<https://imgur.com/a/nSbJcjG>

At $8 per NOS on the \'bay though they need new paint jobs
 
On 8/22/2020 2:27 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 8/21/2020 12:20 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/08/2020 17:13, bitrex wrote:
On 8/20/2020 3:33 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/08/2020 20:14, bitrex wrote:
I have some plastic scale models (ABS probably) I want to remove
the factory paint job on; I read soaking in isopropyl alcohol for a
couple days would do that without damaging any of the fine detail.
Legit?

Hard to be sure how it will affect the plastic medium to long term.

ISTR that the low molecular weight alcohols will cause serious
stress corrosion cracking with methanol being the worst by far and
ethanol might be ok or might soften or weaken it.

Some paints cross link on curing so they are no longer soluble in
the medium that they were previously dissolved in as a paint.

Test it on a single sacrificial piece first to see what works best.


The isopropyl actually worked really well on my test piece, N scale
heavyweight coach by Rivarossi. Better than I was expecting.

About 8 hours soak and the paint starts sliding right off, a good
scrub with a toothbrush is then enough to take it down to the bare
plastic without much trouble. It\'s not an aggressive stripper tho and
doesn\'t seem to harm the plastic at all.

Leave it a week or two before you do another one just in case.
I think IPA should be OK so long as there is no methanol in it.

My engines are Hornby OO and and 3.5\" gauge live steam.


With a little work and some new trucks and details these Model Power
heavyweight coaches:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rjIAAOSwO5BegTM9/s-l640.jpg

Aren\'t a bad likeness for the New Haven\'s 1930s-era coaches, seen here
awaiting scrapping at Boston South Station in the late 60s sometime,
probably:

https://imgur.com/a/nSbJcjG

The Prudential Tower rear left was the tallest building in the world
outside New York City when it was finished in 1964 remarkably enough,
doesn\'t even rank in the top 50 in the US, now...
 

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