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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
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Thanks,
- Win
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
On 6/5/20 7:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
Do you mean Reader Mode?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reader-mode/llimhhconnjiflfimocjggfjdlmlhblm
That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass
paywalls?
CH
On 2020-05-05 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 6/5/20 7:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
Do you mean Reader Mode?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reader-mode/llimhhconnjiflfimocjggfjdlmlhblm
That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass paywalls?
CH
I don't use Chrome because I don't trust Google. Firefox reader mode doesn't
get around paywalls, but it does often get rid of nag overlays like that.
On 06/05/20 02:21, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 6/5/20 7:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
Do you mean Reader Mode?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reader-mode/llimhhconnjiflfimocjggfjdlmlhblm
That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass paywalls?
CH
I don't use Chrome because I don't trust Google. Firefox reader mode doesn't
get around paywalls, but it does often get rid of nag overlays like that.
How the devil have I missed reader mode until now?!
AdBlock is wonderful too; given google is an advert machine,
will ever be a Chrome equivalent?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
--
Thanks,
- Win
On 2020-05-05 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 6/5/20 7:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
Do you mean Reader Mode?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reader-mode/llimhhconnjiflfimocjggfjdlmlhblm
That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass
paywalls?
CH
I don't use Chrome because I don't trust Google. Firefox reader mode
doesn't get around paywalls, but it does often get rid of nag overlays
like that.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
onsdag den 6. maj 2020 kl. 08.30.44 UTC+2 skrev Tom Gardner:
On 06/05/20 02:21, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 6/5/20 7:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-05-05 16:33, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 5/5/2020 2:54 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
"Subscribe to continue reading."
Use reader mode.
Do you mean Reader Mode?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reader-mode/llimhhconnjiflfimocjggfjdlmlhblm
That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass paywalls?
CH
I don't use Chrome because I don't trust Google. Firefox reader mode doesn't
get around paywalls, but it does often get rid of nag overlays like that.
How the devil have I missed reader mode until now?!
AdBlock is wonderful too; given google is an advert machine,
will ever be a Chrome equivalent?
adblockplus works just fine on Chrome
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
--
Thanks,
- Win
Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction
with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious....
That's how it gets more of its 'offspring' into the next generation.
George H.
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
--
Thanks,
- Win
Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction
with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious...
On 06/05/2020 14:28, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction
with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious...
That is only true if the virus is so lethal that it tends to kill almost
everyone it infects before they have a chance to pass it on.
This one already produces 80% asymptomatic carriers and only kills about
3% of mostly the elderly and infirm.
It is already close to optimal. It
could just as easily evolve to kill 10% or more so long as it has an
even higher R0 - and we are inadvertently selecting for maximum R0.
We have added the constraint of lockdown which is causing the original
wild form to die out and be replaced by the mutant strain with the
highest possible infectivity. This should not be a surprise.
That's how it gets more of its 'offspring' into the next generation.
Only true if it is killing a high proportion of those it infects and too
quickly for them to pass it on before they expire.
OK, I guess it's possible for the virus to become slightly more deadly, ifOn 06/05/2020 14:28, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
--
Thanks,
- Win
Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction
with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious...
That is only true if the virus is so lethal that it tends to kill almost
everyone it infects before they have a chance to pass it on.
This one already produces 80% asymptomatic carriers and only kills about
3% of mostly the elderly and infirm. It is already close to optimal. It
could just as easily evolve to kill 10% or more so long as it has an
even higher R0 - and we are inadvertently selecting for maximum R0.
We have added the constraint of lockdown which is causing the original
wild form to die out and be replaced by the mutant strain with the
highest possible infectivity. This should not be a surprise.
That's how it gets more of its 'offspring' into the next generation.
Only true if it is killing a high proportion of those it infects and too
quickly for them to pass it on before they expire.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 3:10:50 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 06/05/2020 14:28, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1
--
Thanks,
- Win
Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction
with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious...
That is only true if the virus is so lethal that it tends to kill almost
everyone it infects before they have a chance to pass it on.
This one already produces 80% asymptomatic carriers and only kills about
3% of mostly the elderly and infirm. It is already close to optimal. It
could just as easily evolve to kill 10% or more so long as it has an
even higher R0 - and we are inadvertently selecting for maximum R0.
We have added the constraint of lockdown which is causing the original
wild form to die out and be replaced by the mutant strain with the
highest possible infectivity. This should not be a surprise.
That's how it gets more of its 'offspring' into the next generation.
Only true if it is killing a high proportion of those it infects and too
quickly for them to pass it on before they expire.
OK, I guess it's possible for the virus to become slightly more deadly, if
it becomes even more contagious by the change. And as you say our
actions are selecting which viruses get to infect others.
And I guess I could imagine some other disease that gets transmitted
because of the death the host.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-
emerged-more-contagious-than-original
Source article:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1