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John Doe
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Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
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Flyguy
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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 11:00:35 PM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
No, you don\'t have to do ANYTHING. Personally, I know that Ukraine resistance will just get more people killed than necessary, but it DOES give me pleasure to see Russian tanks and aircraft getting destroyed.
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
No, you don\'t have to do ANYTHING. Personally, I know that Ukraine resistance will just get more people killed than necessary, but it DOES give me pleasure to see Russian tanks and aircraft getting destroyed.
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John Doe
Guest
Flyguy wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Have you seen the Sky News reporters being fired on? They keep yelling
\"JOURNALIST\". Considering the Western media, ESPECIALLY Sky News, has been
bashing Russia, that\'s like saying \"SHOOT ME!\"
I sure do like seeing some news that isn\'t centered on America. They are not
all bashing us, but they are all trying to communicate. Love it!
John Doe wrote:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
No, you don\'t have to do ANYTHING. Personally, I know that Ukraine
resistance will just get more people killed than necessary, but it DOES
give me pleasure to see Russian tanks and aircraft getting destroyed.
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Have you seen the Sky News reporters being fired on? They keep yelling
\"JOURNALIST\". Considering the Western media, ESPECIALLY Sky News, has been
bashing Russia, that\'s like saying \"SHOOT ME!\"
I sure do like seeing some news that isn\'t centered on America. They are not
all bashing us, but they are all trying to communicate. Love it!
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 07:00:24 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote in <t01m68$7ce$1@dont-email.me>:
It is so silly now they include sports into the politics.
Makes the whole thing meaningless who is the fastests / best / strongest / smartest
Maybe we need WW3 just to get some common sense back.
<always.look@message.header> wrote in <t01m68$7ce$1@dont-email.me>:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
It is so silly now they include sports into the politics.
Makes the whole thing meaningless who is the fastests / best / strongest / smartest
Maybe we need WW3 just to get some common sense back.
S
server
Guest
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t01m68$7ce$1@dont-
email.me:
> Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
Absolutely is, but you have already been proven an Unamerican
dumbshit, so no surprise that you would pull a stupid move like this as
well.
> How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
Go look up past olympic event results, umamerican idiot.
email.me:
> Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
Absolutely is, but you have already been proven an Unamerican
dumbshit, so no surprise that you would pull a stupid move like this as
well.
> How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
Go look up past olympic event results, umamerican idiot.
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Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:42:35 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Not that John Doe shows any sign of wanting to reason with anybody.
He has snipped whatever it was he objected to - eternal september shows that my post started with \"There\'s nothing patriotic about choosing sides between Russia and the Ukraine\" which is a tolerably reasonable assertion, and not in any way factually incorrect.
Instead he posted \"BWAAAHAHAAA!!!\" which isn\'t any kind of reasoned statement, and then goes on to recycle his usual collection of irrational abuse culled from previous threads.
He does seem to be stupid enough that he might think that this might be some kind of \"reasonable\" behavior, or maybe he\'s simply insane.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
BWAAAHAHAHAAA!!!
Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
reasoned with...
Not that John Doe shows any sign of wanting to reason with anybody.
He has snipped whatever it was he objected to - eternal september shows that my post started with \"There\'s nothing patriotic about choosing sides between Russia and the Ukraine\" which is a tolerably reasonable assertion, and not in any way factually incorrect.
Instead he posted \"BWAAAHAHAAA!!!\" which isn\'t any kind of reasoned statement, and then goes on to recycle his usual collection of irrational abuse culled from previous threads.
He does seem to be stupid enough that he might think that this might be some kind of \"reasonable\" behavior, or maybe he\'s simply insane.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Doe
Guest
I was joking. No surprise the foulmouthed group idiot Always Wrong
didn\'t get it.
The idea Americans must fall in line with Deep State propaganda is
LUDICROUS. The idea Americans must support every foreign war halfway
around the globe our government gets involved in is LUDICROUS.
Ukraine is corrupt. Our involvement there is just an attempt to force
Russia into a corner.
This foulmouthed slimy bastered Always Wrong couldn\'t care less about
America, it couldn\'t care less about defending our own borders.
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
didn\'t get it.
The idea Americans must fall in line with Deep State propaganda is
LUDICROUS. The idea Americans must support every foreign war halfway
around the globe our government gets involved in is LUDICROUS.
Ukraine is corrupt. Our involvement there is just an attempt to force
Russia into a corner.
This foulmouthed slimy bastered Always Wrong couldn\'t care less about
America, it couldn\'t care less about defending our own borders.
--
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Subject: Re: OT: Must we root for Ukraine?
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John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t01m68$7ce$1@dont-
email.me:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
Absolutely is, but you have already been proven an Unamerican
dumbshit, so no surprise that you would pull a stupid move like this as
well.
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
Go look up past olympic event results, umamerican idiot.
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John Doe
Guest
Jan Panteltje wrote:
Are you from Germany? That\'s backwards. The Olympics are a way for
countries to prove who is the baddest without getting into a war.
It\'s nondestructive competition between adversaries.
John Doe wrote:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
It is so silly now they include sports into the politics.
Makes the whole thing meaningless who is the fastests / best / strongest
/ smartest Maybe we need WW3 just to get some common sense back.
Are you from Germany? That\'s backwards. The Olympics are a way for
countries to prove who is the baddest without getting into a war.
It\'s nondestructive competition between adversaries.
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Edward Hernandez
Guest
The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:25:28 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t02co8$540$2@dont-email.me>).
Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):
Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 53.9% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.
This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
LViCAzRG3E21
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:25:28 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t02co8$540$2@dont-email.me>).
Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):
Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.
Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET has been 53.9% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.
This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
LViCAzRG3E21
J
Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:34:28 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote in <t02d94$540$4@dont-email.me>:
No, from The Netherlands (country run by US puppet leader).
Yes if you see Olympics that way,, still you need to compete against a real adversary in that case,
Leaving your enemy out makes no sense.
Anyways seems they are trying very hard to kill themselves (skying, F1 racing, what not)
<always.look@message.header> wrote in <t02d94$540$4@dont-email.me>:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
It is so silly now they include sports into the politics.
Makes the whole thing meaningless who is the fastests / best / strongest
/ smartest Maybe we need WW3 just to get some common sense back.
Are you from Germany? That\'s backwards. The Olympics are a way for
countries to prove who is the baddest without getting into a war.
It\'s nondestructive competition between adversaries.
No, from The Netherlands (country run by US puppet leader).
Yes if you see Olympics that way,, still you need to compete against a real adversary in that case,
Leaving your enemy out makes no sense.
Anyways seems they are trying very hard to kill themselves (skying, F1 racing, what not)
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Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 12:34:39 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Jan is well known to be Dutch. He claims that he is now living in Friesland, but doesn\'t claim to be Fries - or to speak Friesian.
> That\'s backwards. The Olympics are a way for countries to prove who is the baddest without getting into a war.
It\'s not a competition between countries, but rather between individual athletes. They compete as the best athletes their country can come up with, but that just a process to winnow down the competitors to a number that can fit on a track.
> It\'s nondestructive competition between adversaries.
It\'s not all that non-destructive. Sport injuries happen a lot at that level.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Jan Panteltje wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Is it unpatriotic to root for Russia?
How about Ukraine versus Russia in the Olympics?
It is so silly now they include sports into the politics.
Makes the whole thing meaningless who is the fastests / best / strongest
/ smartest Maybe we need WW3 just to get some common sense back.
Are you from Germany?
Jan is well known to be Dutch. He claims that he is now living in Friesland, but doesn\'t claim to be Fries - or to speak Friesian.
> That\'s backwards. The Olympics are a way for countries to prove who is the baddest without getting into a war.
It\'s not a competition between countries, but rather between individual athletes. They compete as the best athletes their country can come up with, but that just a process to winnow down the competitors to a number that can fit on a track.
> It\'s nondestructive competition between adversaries.
It\'s not all that non-destructive. Sport injuries happen a lot at that level.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 1:02:05 AM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Mark Rutte doesn\'t look much like a US puppet to anybody saner that Jan Panteltje (most of the population).
He\'s been prime minster since 2010 (which is quite a while) and has lead four different coalitions. An American who knew enough about Dutch politics to pull the right strings to keep him in that job for that long would need to be super-humanly good at a very tricky job.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:34:28 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote in <t02d94$540$4...@dont-email.me>:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
John Doe wrote:
No, from The Netherlands (country run by US puppet leader).
Mark Rutte doesn\'t look much like a US puppet to anybody saner that Jan Panteltje (most of the population).
He\'s been prime minster since 2010 (which is quite a while) and has lead four different coalitions. An American who knew enough about Dutch politics to pull the right strings to keep him in that job for that long would need to be super-humanly good at a very tricky job.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Jan Panteltje
Guest
On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 06:22:00 -0800 (PST)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<994b9288-0e8c-43dd-8138-c6cd798c6e79n@googlegroups.com>:
You always insult people, design and build something, write some code, IF YOU CAN!!
No I do not give shit about your baxandal toiletpaper.
>He\'s been prime minster since 2010 (which is quite a while)
He must be CIA then.
I wrote years ago here: \"If Obama sneezes the whole Dutch goverment has a cold.\"
Some down under tasmanian \'evil claims to know more about Netherlands than I who lived there for > 75 years.
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<994b9288-0e8c-43dd-8138-c6cd798c6e79n@googlegroups.com>:
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 1:02:05 AM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:34:28 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote in <t02d94$540$4...@dont-email.me>:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
John Doe wrote:
No, from The Netherlands (country run by US puppet leader).
Mark Rutte doesn\'t look much like a US puppet to anybody saner that Jan Panteltje
(most of the population).
You always insult people, design and build something, write some code, IF YOU CAN!!
No I do not give shit about your baxandal toiletpaper.
>He\'s been prime minster since 2010 (which is quite a while)
He must be CIA then.
I wrote years ago here: \"If Obama sneezes the whole Dutch goverment has a cold.\"
and has lead four
different coalitions. An American who knew enough about Dutch politics to
pull the right strings to keep him in that job for that long would need to
be super-humanly good at a very tricky job.
Some down under tasmanian \'evil claims to know more about Netherlands than I who lived there for > 75 years.
J
John Walliker
Guest
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
John
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
John
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Rick C
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
--
Rick C.
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On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
E
Ed Lee
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90% kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of Kiev.
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90% kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of Kiev.
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Rick C
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:18:13 PM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:
Are you volunteering to take a Javelin or two to the tanks and see if you can hit one before they kill you?
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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were filming it.. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90% kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of Kiev.
Are you volunteering to take a Javelin or two to the tanks and see if you can hit one before they kill you?
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
E
Ed Lee
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 10:56:55 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, i\'ll do that in Taiwan. I won\'t fight in Ukraine, but perhaps Taiwan.
Did you know that Javelins are mini-smart drones? Plenty of time to evacuate before onboard motor ignition.
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:18:13 PM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know how to use media
editors on a computer. Like the one that claims to have shut down a Russian
helicopter. That\'s not on any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try
to evade the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major media outlet?
Is it possible to take much evasive action in about 1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90% kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of Kiev.
Are you volunteering to take a Javelin or two to the tanks and see if you can hit one before they kill you?
Yes, i\'ll do that in Taiwan. I won\'t fight in Ukraine, but perhaps Taiwan.
Did you know that Javelins are mini-smart drones? Plenty of time to evacuate before onboard motor ignition.
D
David Brown
Guest
On 06/03/2022 19:18, Ed Lee wrote:
The reports I have read from military analysts is that the Ukrainians
are targeting vehicles at the front of the columns, bottlenecks in the
road (such as bridges), and supply vehicles. There is simply no need to
bother with the vehicles in the middle - if the road in front is
blocked, their fuel supplies (which apparently were limited to start
with) are blown up, and the surrounding landscape is forest and swamp,
then they are not going anywhere. The column has hardly moved in a week
as the soldiers get more and more demoralised and it is dawning on them
that this is not the military exercise, walk-over, or liberation mission
they had been told. It makes sense to keep their missiles for when they
are really needed - Russian advances in other parts of the country have
been more successful.
The Ukrainians may have logistic challenges themselves. European
countries have supplied large numbers of weapons, but it might not be a
simple matter to get these to the front lines.
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know
how to use media editors on a computer. Like the one that
claims to have shut down a Russian helicopter. That\'s not on
any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try to evade
the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major
media outlet? Is it possible to take much evasive action in about
1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were
filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending
all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One
of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to
enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt
Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without
good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i
said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but
only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90%
kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they
waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of
Kiev.
The reports I have read from military analysts is that the Ukrainians
are targeting vehicles at the front of the columns, bottlenecks in the
road (such as bridges), and supply vehicles. There is simply no need to
bother with the vehicles in the middle - if the road in front is
blocked, their fuel supplies (which apparently were limited to start
with) are blown up, and the surrounding landscape is forest and swamp,
then they are not going anywhere. The column has hardly moved in a week
as the soldiers get more and more demoralised and it is dawning on them
that this is not the military exercise, walk-over, or liberation mission
they had been told. It makes sense to keep their missiles for when they
are really needed - Russian advances in other parts of the country have
been more successful.
The Ukrainians may have logistic challenges themselves. European
countries have supplied large numbers of weapons, but it might not be a
simple matter to get these to the front lines.
E
Ed Lee
Guest
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:36:26 AM UTC-8, David Brown wrote:
Yes, i guess Javelins are more expensive than vehicles. They are USD$200k each. We worry about soldiers running away with them than from them.
On 06/03/2022 19:18, Ed Lee wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-8, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 08:41:53 UTC, John Doe wrote:
I have seem some propaganda pieces by little people who know
how to use media editors on a computer. Like the one that
claims to have shut down a Russian helicopter. That\'s not on
any major media outlets. The helicopter doesn\'t try to evade
the missile. The camera is perfectly positioned. Looks fake.
Does the BBC main evening TV news programme count as a major
media outlet? Is it possible to take much evasive action in about
1 second?
Yeah, looks like the people responsible for the missile were
filming it. They probably were looking for a good propaganda shot.
I read that Germany has reversed their position and are now sending
all manner of weapons to Ukraine. I hope it makes a difference. One
of the downsides of having a large force, is exposing yourself to
enemy fire. If Ukraine can take out more aircraft, that will hurt
Russia very badly and make it harder for them to advance. Without
good air cover, it is much easier to attack the ground forces.
Both are necessary. Stingers for air and Javelins for ground. As i
said in another post, they should now have thousands of them, but
only reported hundreds of hits. Javelins are reported to have 90%
kill rate. So, they should still have 90% unused. What are they
waiting for, regarding the siting ducks (tanks) 15 miles north of
Kiev.
The reports I have read from military analysts is that the Ukrainians
are targeting vehicles at the front of the columns, bottlenecks in the
road (such as bridges), and supply vehicles. There is simply no need to
bother with the vehicles in the middle - if the road in front is
blocked, their fuel supplies (which apparently were limited to start
with) are blown up, and the surrounding landscape is forest and swamp,
then they are not going anywhere. The column has hardly moved in a week
as the soldiers get more and more demoralised and it is dawning on them
that this is not the military exercise, walk-over, or liberation mission
they had been told. It makes sense to keep their missiles for when they
are really needed - Russian advances in other parts of the country have
been more successful.
The Ukrainians may have logistic challenges themselves. European
countries have supplied large numbers of weapons, but it might not be a
simple matter to get these to the front lines.
Yes, i guess Javelins are more expensive than vehicles. They are USD$200k each. We worry about soldiers running away with them than from them.