OT: Lockheed-Martin = saviour of the planet?

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If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/
 
In article <m1rr1r$jde$1@dont-email.me>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17/10/14 11:53 PM, N_Cook wrote:
If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/

Let's come back to this thread after 10 years. :)
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If Google Gropes is still going, then I'm sure we will be.

Without any quoted context.
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On 17/10/14 11:53 PM, N_Cook wrote:
If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/
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Let's come back to this thread after 10 years. :)

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"N_Cook" wrote in message news:m1re0t$5e3$1@dont-email.me...

If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/




Hmm, one thing I have learnt in my years upon this planet, is that most
journalists are completely crap at being journalists.

They generally read something someone else has published, then misquote it,
and in addition, make random conclusions/make stuff up whilst being in total
ignorance of the subject, so as to fulfil their job description, and thus
get paid for their efforts/column inches.

If you want to get closer to the truth, do not read this crap, you need to
source the original material, and make your own random conclusions yourself.





Gosh, I am cross tonight. Must be the wine.


Gareth.
 
I see a problem... 100 MW? From a device that fits on the back of a large
truck?

What form does the output power take? Where does the waste heat go?
 
"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:m1s35h$eon$1@dont-email.me...

I see a problem... 100 MW? From a device that fits on the back of a large
truck?

What form does the output power take? Where does the waste heat go?





Erm, I would talk to Lockheed Martin about that problem you have just seen.

It's probably a bit classified though, and not what you think.



Gareth.
 
On 17/10/2014 22:53, William Sommerwerck wrote:
I see a problem... 100 MW? From a device that fits on the back of a
large truck?

What form does the output power take? Where does the waste heat go?
Click to expand...

What waste heat. The device obviously generates the electrons directly
as part of the fusion process,feeding directly into the grid, none of
that messy Victorian steam and rotary generator stuff.
 
On 18/10/14 4:09 AM, Mike wrote:
Let's come back to this thread after 10 years. :)

If Google Gropes is still going, then I'm sure we will be.
Without any quoted context.
Click to expand...

I doubt Usenet will keep messages forever.

Isn't nuclear fusion dangerous? How do you stop it?

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On 18/10/14 5:53 AM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
I see a problem... 100 MW? From a device that fits on the back of a
large truck?
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As far as I know, all those nuclear fusion experimental devices
are using big magnets to contain the fusion core.

I don't think those big magnets could be carried on a truck,
unless the fusion reactor is very very small, which meant
it generate little power?

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On 18/10/14 6:19 AM, Gareth Magennis wrote:
Erm, I would talk to Lockheed Martin about that problem you have just seen.
It's probably a bit classified though, and not what you think.
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NO. We have seen it. It's called the Arc Reactor in Iron Man movies. :)

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On 18/10/14 3:57 PM, N_Cook wrote:
What waste heat. The device obviously generates the electrons directly
as part of the fusion process,feeding directly into the grid, none of
that messy Victorian steam and rotary generator stuff.
Click to expand...

Would there be an emergence stop button that works? :)

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On 18/10/2014 11:52, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 18/10/14 4:09 AM, Mike wrote:
Let's come back to this thread after 10 years. :)

If Google Gropes is still going, then I'm sure we will be.
Without any quoted context.


I doubt Usenet will keep messages forever.

Isn't nuclear fusion dangerous? How do you stop it?
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Bring back Deja News, so much simpler then , non of the extraneous
irritating monetisation crap and wasted bandwidth.
 
On 18/10/2014 11:56, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 18/10/14 3:57 PM, N_Cook wrote:
What waste heat. The device obviously generates the electrons directly
as part of the fusion process,feeding directly into the grid, none of
that messy Victorian steam and rotary generator stuff.

Would there be an emergence stop button that works? :)
Click to expand...

There could be no emergency stop, if it stopped that's when it would all
blow up.
 
In article <m1t6gs$ueg$1@dont-email.me>, diverse@tcp.co.uk says...
On 17/10/2014 22:53, William Sommerwerck wrote:
I see a problem... 100 MW? From a device that fits on the back of a
large truck?

What form does the output power take? Where does the waste heat go?

What waste heat. The device obviously generates the electrons directly
as part of the fusion process,feeding directly into the grid, none of
that messy Victorian steam and rotary generator stuff.
Click to expand...

I find that HARDDDDDDDDD to Believe..

Jamie
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:56:20 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/10/14 3:57 PM, N_Cook wrote:
What waste heat. The device obviously generates the electrons directly
as part of the fusion process,feeding directly into the grid, none of
that messy Victorian steam and rotary generator stuff.

Would there be an emergence stop button that works? :)
Click to expand...

Of course there's an Emergency Stop button. It's right below the Open
Door and Close Door buttons.
 
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:53:20 +0100, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/
Click to expand...

The problem is that for every million watts the fusion generates, it
takes 1.6 million watts to retrieve the hydrogen fuel from its
compounds.

Also, Lockheed Martin was a misprint. It's Lockheed Morton, a guy I
went to prep school with.
 
On 19/10/14 9:31 AM, micky wrote:
The problem is that for every million watts the fusion generates, it
takes 1.6 million watts to retrieve the hydrogen fuel from its
compounds.

Also, Lockheed Martin was a misprint. It's Lockheed Morton, a guy I
went to prep school with.
Click to expand...

I have yet to see a blueprint that generates electricity from nuclear
fusion. I would expect a fusion-powered steamer. :)

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:13:09 +0100, "Gareth Magennis"
<gareth.magennis@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"N_Cook" wrote in message news:m1re0t$5e3$1@dont-email.me...

If something is too good to be true ...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fusion-energy1/




Hmm, one thing I have learnt in my years upon this planet, is that most
journalists are completely crap at being journalists.

They generally read something someone else has published, then misquote it,
and in addition, make random conclusions/make stuff up whilst being in total
ignorance of the subject, so as to fulfil their job description, and thus
get paid for their efforts/column inches.

If you want to get closer to the truth, do not read this crap, you need to
source the original material, and make your own random conclusions yourself.





Gosh, I am cross tonight. Must be the wine.


Gareth.
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In vino veritas.

?-)
 
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote:
I have yet to see a blueprint that generates electricity from nuclear
fusion. I would expect a fusion-powered steamer. :)
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Blueprints don't produce electricity.


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On 20/10/2014 05:36, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote:

I have yet to see a blueprint that generates electricity from nuclear
fusion. I would expect a fusion-powered steamer. :)


Blueprints don't produce electricity.
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Perhaps just an overactive PR dept, making sure the name L-M is in the
media, near enough same story from 18 months ago
http://www.fusenet.eu/node/400
 
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