OT: lightweight electric bike...

[John Doe]

Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs 22 pounds,
half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually incorrect, but in
real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people just a few
minutes ago when out front testing it.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame is aluminum,
very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a comfortable, springy,
seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The front wheel rim is steel, but it
would be only a tiny bit less if it were aluminum. The front fork is heavy
duty, but it needs to be. The freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck
finding freewheel hubs (driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts, especially
the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter, without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with stability,
too. An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device. Works
similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power. No clutch.
But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is counterproductive anyway.
That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful drill powered bike, it\'s geared for it
(0-600 RPM), direct driving a 16 or 20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+
pounds.

 

[John Doe]

Off topic troll...

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Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs 22 pounds,
half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually incorrect, but in
real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people just a few
minutes ago when out front testing it.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame is aluminum,
very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a comfortable, springy,
seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The front wheel rim is steel, but it
would be only a tiny bit less if it were aluminum. The front fork is heavy
duty, but it needs to be. The freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck
finding freewheel hubs (driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts, especially
the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter, without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with stability,
too. An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device. Works
similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power. No clutch.
But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is counterproductive anyway.
That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful drill powered bike, it\'s geared for it
(0-600 RPM), direct driving a 16 or 20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+
pounds.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 61.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1977 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
1049 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 20 Jun 2022 02:49:29 GMT in message-id
<ZeRrK.621050$4OW.185934@usenetxs.com>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

7DBoqtW+ATsB

 

[Edward Hernandez]

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 61.9% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1982 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
1054 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 20 Jun 2022 02:58:36 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t8onos$e53$4@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

YynV4ySGTsGh

 

[corvid]

On 6/19/22 19:44, John Doe wrote:

Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs 22
pounds, half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill powered also
makes it versatile

Yes, you can drill holes wherever you go with it.

and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually incorrect,
but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several
people just a few minutes ago when out front testing it.

Of course, who\'s going to tell a silly goof that his bike it a pile?

I saw your first effort, with the drill sticking out into the next lane.
You hit anything, and the clamp is going to spin around the fork leg and
snap off your drill bit. Then you won\'t be able to drill holes.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame is
aluminum, very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a
comfortable, springy, seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The front
wheel rim is steel, but it would be only a tiny bit less if it were
aluminum. The front fork is heavy duty, but it needs to be. The
freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck finding freewheel hubs
(driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts,
especially the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter,
without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with
stability, too.

Front drive motorcycles flopped.

An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device. Works
similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power. No
clutch. But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is
counterproductive anyway. That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful drill
powered bike, it\'s geared for it (0-600 RPM), direct driving a 16 or
20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+ pounds.

Attach a blimp to the bike.

 

[John Doe]

Front wheel drive motorcycles? I\'ve been into motorcycles before and I\'ve
never heard of front wheel drive motorcycles. Not likely they ever
\"flopped\".

I\'ve laid bikes down plenty... Once while winding down a road next to Lake
Tahoe. Another at about 60 miles an hour, having missed the exit by just a
little. Another going slowly on a downward slope while turning. And on a
drizzly day, after exiting a freeway, while approaching an intersection, a
long slide, laying it down just under that stopped car\'s bumper.

One thing that can\'t happen with front-wheel-drive... When you ride a
\"Cadillac\" and somebody lets you on their screaming Yamaha dirtbike,
revving it and popping the clutch won\'t send the bike flying.

With front wheel drive electric bikes, there is some issue with throttling
up while turning, but that\'s resolved by releasing the throttle, then it
freewheels. Seems no more problematic than rearwheel drive. Even if there
were some issue, it\'s not meant for performance anyway.




corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 6/19/22 19:44, John Doe wrote:
Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs 22
pounds, half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill powered also
makes it versatile

Yes, you can drill holes wherever you go with it.

and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually incorrect,
but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people
just a few minutes ago when out front testing it.

Of course, who\'s going to tell a silly goof that his bike it a pile?

I saw your first effort, with the drill sticking out into the next lane.
You hit anything, and the clamp is going to spin around the fork leg and
snap off your drill bit. Then you won\'t be able to drill holes.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame is
aluminum, very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a
comfortable, springy, seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The front
wheel rim is steel, but it would be only a tiny bit less if it were
aluminum. The front fork is heavy duty, but it needs to be. The
freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck finding freewheel hubs
(driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts,
especially the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter,
without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with
stability, too.

Front drive motorcycles flopped.

An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device. Works
similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power. No
clutch. But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is
counterproductive anyway. That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful drill
powered bike, it\'s geared for it (0-600 RPM), direct driving a 16 or
20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+ pounds.

Attach a blimp to the bike.

 

[a a]

On Monday, 20 June 2022 at 08:09:07 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:

Front wheel drive motorcycles? I\'ve been into motorcycles before and I\'ve
never heard of front wheel drive motorcycles. Not likely they ever
\"flopped\".

I\'ve laid bikes down plenty... Once while winding down a road next to Lake
Tahoe. Another at about 60 miles an hour, having missed the exit by just a
little. Another going slowly on a downward slope while turning. And on a
drizzly day, after exiting a freeway, while approaching an intersection, a
long slide, laying it down just under that stopped car\'s bumper.

One thing that can\'t happen with front-wheel-drive... When you ride a
\"Cadillac\" and somebody lets you on their screaming Yamaha dirtbike,
revving it and popping the clutch won\'t send the bike flying.

With front wheel drive electric bikes, there is some issue with throttling
up while turning, but that\'s resolved by releasing the throttle, then it
freewheels. Seems no more problematic than rearwheel drive. Even if there
were some issue, it\'s not meant for performance anyway.
corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 6/19/22 19:44, John Doe wrote:
Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs 22
pounds, half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill powered also
makes it versatile

Yes, you can drill holes wherever you go with it.

and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually incorrect,
but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people
just a few minutes ago when out front testing it.

Of course, who\'s going to tell a silly goof that his bike it a pile?

I saw your first effort, with the drill sticking out into the next lane.
You hit anything, and the clamp is going to spin around the fork leg and
snap off your drill bit. Then you won\'t be able to drill holes.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame is
aluminum, very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a
comfortable, springy, seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The front
wheel rim is steel, but it would be only a tiny bit less if it were
aluminum. The front fork is heavy duty, but it needs to be. The
freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck finding freewheel hubs
(driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts,
especially the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter,
without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with
stability, too.

Front drive motorcycles flopped.

An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device. Works
similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power. No
clutch. But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is
counterproductive anyway. That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful drill
powered bike, it\'s geared for it (0-600 RPM), direct driving a 16 or
20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+ pounds.

Attach a blimp to the bike.

excellent,
no link to image of your electric bike ?

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t8omum$e53$1@dont-email.me:

Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one weighs
22 pounds, half the weight of a light eBike.

Then your piece of shit lard ass gets on it and it crawls.

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t8omum$e53$1@dont-email.me:

Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually
incorrect, but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like
from several people just a few minutes ago when out front testing
it.

Just get an already done up e-bike and leave the engineering and
optimization to the real engineers and professionals. Your shit is a
joke, at best.

Just so you know, that wasn\'t a compliment.

 

[server]

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:ZeRrK.621050
$4OW.185934@usenetxs.com:

Off topic troll...

Why do you post responses to yourself, you fucking USENET TOTAL RETARD?

 

[server]

corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote in news:t8ovmb$eqh$1@gioia.aioe.org:

On 6/19/22 19:44, John Doe wrote:
Just finished another drill powered electric bike. This one
weighs 22 pounds, half the weight of a light eBike. Being drill
powered also makes it versatile

Yes, you can drill holes wherever you go with it.

and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually
incorrect, but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like
from several people just a few minutes ago when out front testing
it.

Of course, who\'s going to tell a silly goof that his bike it a
pile?

I saw your first effort, with the drill sticking out into the next
lane. You hit anything, and the clamp is going to spin around the
fork leg and snap off your drill bit. Then you won\'t be able to
drill holes.

Was trying to get it below 20 pounds but that\'s tough! The frame
is aluminum, very light, a big weight saver. But it must have a
comfortable, springy, seat, that weighs 3 pounds by itself. The
front wheel rim is steel, but it would be only a tiny bit less if
it were aluminum. The front fork is heavy duty, but it needs to
be. The freewheel hub is a bit heavy, but good luck finding
freewheel hubs (driven from outside of the fork).

A springy seat is also good for relieving stress on bike parts,
especially the frame. Less than 20 pounds is doable as a scooter,
without a seat.

Front wheel drive helps keep from breaking stuff and helps with
stability, too.

Front drive motorcycles flopped.

An in-line skating heel break is cool too, marvelous device.
Works similarly.

A DeWalt mud mixer would be fun, but don\'t need that much power.
No clutch. But a clutch, especially an electric clutch, is
counterproductive anyway. That would be an AMAZINGLY powerful
drill powered bike, it\'s geared for it (0-600 RPM), direct
driving a 16 or 20 inch wheel. But it would add 2+ pounds.

Attach a blimp to the bike.

Still would not lift his lard ass. It would be cool to see it
getting thrown about by the wind as he grinds along at a drill motor
driven crawl.

The way he copy and pastes and reposts his crap here over and over
again it would not surprise me if it isn\'t the same POS.

He could make it even lighter with a few dozen strategically placed
holes in the frame. Not if he is a lard ass though. It would fold
up faster than his debate rebuttal posts.

 

[Ricky]

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 5:41:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
news:t8omum$e53$1...@dont-email.me:
Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually
incorrect, but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like
from several people just a few minutes ago when out front testing
it.
Just get an already done up e-bike and leave the engineering and
optimization to the real engineers and professionals. Your shit is a
joke, at best.

Just so you know, that wasn\'t a compliment.

There are exactly zero people on the planet that give a damn about your opinion of the matter.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:40:23 PM UTC+2, Ricky wrote:

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 5:41:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
news:t8omum$e53$1...@dont-email.me:
Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually
incorrect, but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like
from several people just a few minutes ago when out front testing
it.
Just get an already done up e-bike and leave the engineering and
optimization to the real engineers and professionals. Your shit is a
joke, at best.

Just so you know, that wasn\'t a compliment.

There are exactly zero people on the planet that give a damn about your opinion of the matter.

Not true. I quite enjoy Decadent Linux User Numero Uno\'s exercises in pointing out to John Doe what a total idiot he is.
It may be a specialised taste, but DLUNU does have at least one fan (most of the time).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b7e005f5-9785-4699-b5cd-ae2c505290ben@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 5:41:11 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
John Dope <alway...@message.header> wrote in
news:t8omum$e53$1...@dont-email.me:
Being drill powered also makes it versatile
and easy to service. Being drill powered might be visually
incorrect, but in real life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like
from several people just a few minutes ago when out front
testing it.
Just get an already done up e-bike and leave the engineering and
optimization to the real engineers and professionals. Your shit
is a joke, at best.

Just so you know, that wasn\'t a compliment.

There are exactly zero people on the planet that give a damn about
your opinion of the matter.

Your grasp of statistical fact rests firmly at nil, just like John
Dope\'s.

Again, his shit is a joke at best. Your post expressed exactly
zero facts.

 

[corvid]

On 6/20/22 01:51, a a wrote:

excellent,
no link to image of your electric bike ?

https://live.staticflickr.com/2910/32674868164_b3ac55d54b_w.jpg

 

[a a]

On Monday, 20 June 2022 at 17:51:29 UTC+2, corvid wrote:

On 6/20/22 01:51, a a wrote:

excellent,
no link to image of your electric bike ?
https://live.staticflickr.com/2910/32674868164_b3ac55d54b_w.jpg

thank you
direct drive looks really impressive

I would prefer flexible tranmission shaft for a drill.
Not sure if power shaft can still be flexible to transfer high torque

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=flexible%20transmission%20shaft%20drill&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=flexible%20transmission%20shaft%20drill&sc=0-33

 

[corvid]

6/19/22, 23:09, John Dope:

Front wheel drive motorcycles? I\'ve been into motorcycles before and
I\'ve never heard of front wheel drive motorcycles. Not likely they
ever \"flopped\".

I\'ve laid bikes down plenty... Once while winding down a road next to
Lake Tahoe. Another at about 60 miles an hour, having missed the exit
by just a little. Another going slowly on a downward slope while
turning. And on a drizzly day, after exiting a freeway, while
approaching an intersection, a long slide, laying it down just under
that stopped car\'s bumper.

Whoops! so that\'s what happened to you. Should have worn a helmet.

Being drill powered might be visually incorrect, but in real life
I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people just a few
minutes ago when out front testing it.

Strap a Sawzall to the fork instead,
https://www.dewalt.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/DCS389B/DCS389B_1.jpg
and use that to work a ratchet wrench.

 

[server]

a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d142ed47-e4ac-4734-8231-d47ae8ae11ccn@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, 20 June 2022 at 17:51:29 UTC+2, corvid wrote:
On 6/20/22 01:51, a a wrote:

excellent,
no link to image of your electric bike ?
https://live.staticflickr.com/2910/32674868164_b3ac55d54b_w.jpg
thank you
direct drive looks really impressive

I would prefer flexible tranmission shaft for a drill.
Not sure if power shaft can still be flexible to transfer high
torque

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=flexible%20transmission%20shaf
t%20drill&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&pq=flexible%20transmission%20shaft%2
0drill&sc=0-33

I converted my 150cc chinese high end 70 mph 100 mpg snazzy scooter
into full electric...





....NOT!

 

[server]

corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote in news:t8q9cd$104q$1@gioia.aioe.org:

6/19/22, 23:09, John Dope:
Front wheel drive motorcycles? I\'ve been into motorcycles before
and I\'ve never heard of front wheel drive motorcycles. Not likely
they ever \"flopped\".

I\'ve laid bikes down plenty... Once while winding down a road
next to Lake Tahoe. Another at about 60 miles an hour, having
missed the exit by just a little. Another going slowly on a
downward slope while turning. And on a drizzly day, after exiting
a freeway, while approaching an intersection, a long slide,
laying it down just under that stopped car\'s bumper.

Whoops! so that\'s what happened to you. Should have worn a helmet.


Being drill powered might be visually incorrect, but in real
life I\'ve gotten only compliments, like from several people
just a few minutes ago when out front testing it.

Strap a Sawzall to the fork instead,
https://www.dewalt.com/NAG/PRODUCT/IMAGES/HIRES/DCS389B/DCS389B_1.j
pg and use that to work a ratchet wrench.

One of those little circus bikes only 8 inch wheelbase, reciprocating
sawzall would be a perfect little pedal pusher.

 

[ehsjr]

On 6/20/2022 9:40 AM, Ricky wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 5:41:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

<snip>

There are exactly zero people on the planet that give a damn about your opinion of the matter.

Not true.