OT: Left-wing activist Zachary Greenberg \"Punching people isn\'t enough!\"...

[John Doe]

I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...

Left-wing activist Zachary Greenberg who was arrested years ago for
punching a political rival in the face at UC Berkeley (the video went
viral) has been arrested again, this time for stabbing a cyclist.

The left-wing prosecutor has been dragging its feet on the UC Berkeley
crime. Now, after being charged again without being brought to court for
the first crime, the left-wing judge has let Zachary the Ripper out on
$35,000 bail.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-arrested-stabbing-charges-conservative-activist-uc-berkeley

What happened to the El Salvadoran six-times illegal invader \"Ramon
Escobar\" who murdered his own aunt and uncle hosts in Houston. Then he
fled to Santa Monica California where he became an undocumented undertaker
and BRUTALLY murdered at least four more people. Seems he\'s gone off the
radar, not a thing about him on Google in the last 18 months or so. He was
scheduled for a mental competency hearing. Disappeared. Perhaps they kept
him under supervision for a few months before letting him go in your
neighborhood so he can find some loving companionship.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
> I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...

<snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John Doe hasn\'t got access to their database>

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your country - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

This is Zachary Greenberg in action on UC Berkeley campus...
https://youtu.be/A90-6dpB-NQ
.... before he stabbed a cyclist recently.




I wrote:

I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...

Left-wing activist Zachary Greenberg who was arrested years ago for
punching a political rival in the face at UC Berkeley (the video went
viral) has been arrested again, this time for stabbing a cyclist.

The left-wing prosecutor has been dragging its feet on the UC Berkeley
crime. Now, after being charged again without being brought to court for
the first crime, the left-wing judge has let Zachary the Ripper out on
$35,000 bail.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-arrested-stabbing-charges-conservative-
activist-uc-berkeley

What happened to the El Salvadoran six-times illegal invader \"Ramon
Escobar\" who murdered his own aunt and uncle hosts in Houston. Then he
fled to Santa Monica California where he became an undocumented undertaker
and BRUTALLY murdered at least four more people. Seems he\'s gone off the
radar, not a thing about him on Google in the last 18 months or so. He was
scheduled for a mental competency hearing. Disappeared. Perhaps they kept
him under supervision for a few months before letting him go in your
neighborhood so he can find some loving companionship.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:36:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...
snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John Doe hasn\'t got access to their database

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your country - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Those little punk-ass incidents are not serious crimes at all. Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is a more serious crime, especially if he\'s making pedestrians step out of his way. That stabbing charge should be dropped. Prodding someone with a crummy pocket knife is not assault.

 

[bitrex]

On 10/11/2020 12:59 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:36:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...
snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John Doe hasn\'t got access to their database

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your country - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Those little punk-ass incidents are not serious crimes at all. Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is a more serious crime, especially if he\'s making pedestrians step out of his way. That stabbing charge should be dropped. Prodding someone with a crummy pocket knife is not assault.

Pretty sure Doe is a cyclist. not surprising 90% of urban/suburban
cycling enthusiasts are whack-jobs.

 

[John Doe]

\"stabbing someone with a knife is not assault\"

Speaking of \"whack-jobs\"...

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On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:36:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...
snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John
Doe hasn\'t got access to their database

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your count
ry - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Those little punk-ass incidents are not serious crimes at all. Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is a more serious crime, especially if he\'s making pedestrians step out of his way. That stabbing charge should be dropped. Prodding someone with a crummy pocket knife is not assault.

 

[John Doe]

\"stabbing someone with a knife is not assault\"

Speaking of \"wack-jobs\"...

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On 10/11/2020 12:59 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:36:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...
snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John Doe hasn\'t got access to their database

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your country - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Those little punk-ass incidents are not serious crimes at all. Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is a more serious crime, especially if he\'s making pedestrians step out of his way. That stabbing charge should be dropped. Prodding someone with a crummy pocket knife is not assault.


Pretty sure Doe is a cyclist. not surprising 90% of urban/suburban
cycling enthusiasts are whack-jobs.

 

[John Doe]

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

> Pretty sure Doe is a cyclist.

As a conscientious cyclist, I treat the extremely few pedestrians on our
sidewalks with kid gloves. I slow down, usually drag my feet (party as a
signal to them), and sometimes even stop as they pass by. If there is no
traffic, I might move out into the street while passing. Or maybe ride into
the grass.

I believe power comes with responsibility. Those wielding the greatest power
have the greatest responsibility. Unfortunately some people do not handle
power well, that includes some car drivers.

Many cops and drivers do not like cyclists riding on the street. Some drivers
(like \"bitrex\") are assholes and do nasty stuff like tailgate a cyclist. Some
bikes have small wheels and shouldn\'t be on the street. Laws against bikes on
the sidewalk (never enforced) are probably to make clear that pedestrians have
the right-of-way. I respect that.

In the case I posted about, there were witnesses...
That\'s why the creep was found and (re)arrested. He\'s probably cooked this
time.

 

[John Doe]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Electronics is fun, but only for people who do it.

Nonsense.

> Politics is a spectator sport.

Certainly, if you think you know what the outcome will be no matter who
wins.

> Electronic design isn\'t. That\'s why so many people here talk politics.

FWIW, I for one appreciate and encourage you (and others) talking about
electronics.

 

[Ed Lee]

> The US constitution provides a lot more protection for the well-off residents of the US, and lets them buy a disproportionate amount of political power over their less well-off neighbours

I guess your twisted argument means Mexico. The US Constitution should be junked for better Mexico.

US Constitution protects the US. Mexico Constitution protects Mexico. You are asking the US to change it\'s Constitution to protect Mexico better.

The Constitution is a template. US Constitution offer protections within it\'s jurisdiction and respect other Constitutions. Just because US Constitution works better, Communism want to change it for the worst, and to equalize it for others prosperity.

Capitalism: All men are created equal. All men\'s prosperity are free market.
Communism: Men are not created equal. Men\'s prosperity are equalized by the state.

Nothing wrong with you believing in Communism, but you don\'t have the right to force others to believe it. I know there are at least 15% to 20% in the US agreeing with your Communism idea. But there are still enough of us not believing it.

The number might be higher in Australia, but lower in Japan, and somewhere in-between for major European countries.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:00:18 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 4:00:00 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:36:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:07:28 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...
snipped stories that the police probably haven\'t forgotten even if John Doe hasn\'t got access to their database

We know that you are pathologically anxious about the state of your country - not unreasonably considering the antic of the clown you\'ve got as a president - but this isn\'t place to ventilate those anxieties. Try talking to a counsellor - they get paid for listening to people who have your kind of tedious psychological problems.

We don\'t, and would prefer you did your venting elsewhere.

Those little punk-ass incidents are not serious crimes at all. Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is a more serious crime, especially if he\'s making pedestrians step out of his way. That stabbing charge should be dropped. Prodding someone with a crummy pocket knife is not assault.
It most certainly is. Merely threatening somebody with a weapon (no matter how ineffective) is assault. If you manage to damage the other person it becomes assault and battery. A sufficiently sharp pocket knife can be a deadly weapon - if it manages to cut the carotid artery, for example.

Every so-called crime has a context. Taking a knife to someone in the process of breaking the law by riding a bicycle on the sidewalk and then menacing a person with the threat of extreme bodily harm with a high speed ramming, is justification for using a weapon. The legal tradition in most former commonwealth countries is to give people the right to stand their ground. They can do anything necessary to avoid having to step aside or run away. Dunno how you missed a legal principle in force for at least 8oo years that I\'m aware of.

..

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:16:04 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

Until it gets amended to your gang\'s (communist party) advantage. The U.S.. Constitution, so does the UN, offer protections of human rights for all men. If you amend it to exclude human rights for non-communists, i will be the first to join the gang. Until then, aiding the gang is explicitly unconstitutional. So, if the UN does not address it\'s human rights charter. Our court should ask the administration to pull out of the U.N.

The UN needs to be evicted from NYC and forced to move to Venezuela. Then fumigate the UN building and turn it ver to homeless Veterans. That\'s only fair, since the UN was resopsible for many of them going to senseless UN caused conflicts. I\'m sure that the \'Armchair Butter Bars\' while whine about this. Screw them.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:42:26 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

The worst thing about politics is that it\'s boring. Electronics is
fun, but only for people who do it.

Politics is a spectator sport. Electronic design isn\'t. That\'s why so
many people here talk politics.

I had fun with politics, back in the \'80s. I sued a local crooked politician. He settled out of court. Then he lost re-election after being in that office for 22 years. Who says that you can\'t kick City Hall in the nuts?

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:02:36 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

The US constitution provides a lot more protection for the well-off residents of the US, and lets them buy a disproportionate amount of political power over their less well-off neighbours.

I guess your twisted argument means Mexico. The US Constitution should be junked for better Mexico.

Sweden (and the rest of Scandinavia and norther Europe) was more what I had in mind. The children of single parents in Sweden do just as well as the children of two parent families there. This isn\'t true in the US. I don\'t know much about Mexico, and what I do know involves criminal gangs shooting lots of innocent by-standers - sort of the US on steroids.

> US Constitution protects the US. Mexico Constitution protects Mexico. You are asking the US to change it\'s Constitution to protect Mexico better.

Absolutely not. The US should change it constitution to protect US citizens better.

> The Constitution is a template. US Constitution offer protections within it\'s jurisdiction and respect other Constitutions. Just because US Constitution works better, Communism want to change it for the worst, and to equalize it for others prosperity.

What communism wants isn\'t relevant. Democratic socialism isn\'t communism - and hasn\'t been since 1871, when the international socialist movement threw out Marx because they - correctly - thought that his silly ideas about the leading role of the party would lead to tyranny, as they did.

> Capitalism: All men are created equal. All men\'s prosperity are free market.

But that free market has to be regulated to stop it degenerating into monopolies and cartels.

> Communism: Men are not created equal. Men\'s prosperity are equalized by the state.

Socialism. Men are created equal. Prosperity depends on a free market - where it works - but the state gets to intervene to keep the free market fair, and provide services that don\'t work well when provided by a free market - universal health care and universal education are the obvious examples

Nothing wrong with you believing in Communism, but you don\'t have the right to force others to believe it.

I don\'t believe in Communism. I think it is a fundamentally bad system. It can work after a fashion, but it easily degenerates into a criminal conspiracy or outright tyranny.

> I know there are at least 15% to 20% in the US agreeing with your Communism idea. But there are still enough of us not believing it.

The US media has been peddling the idea that socialism and communism are the same thing for at least a century now. Nobody who knows anything about the subject takes them seriously, but half the population has sub-average intelligence and can be sold the idea that there are only two ways of running a country.

> The number might be higher in Australia, but lower in Japan, and somewhere in-between for major European countries.

Nobody in their right mind thinks that Communism is a sensible way of running a country. Even US capitalism works better than that.

Democratic socialism is a fairly broad church, but pretty much every flavour of it works better than US capitalism. If you haven\'t got the accumulated social and physical capital that the US had built up, it may not deliver the same standard of living, but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

puts the US at number 19 in the ranking of pleasant places to live.

I\'ve lived in the UK (number 15) the Netherlands (5) and I was born and now live in Australia (number 11). I wouldn\'t dream of moving to the US.

Russian is at 68 and China at 93

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:09:00 PM UTC+11, terrell....@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:16:04 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

Until it gets amended to your gang\'s (communist party) advantage.

Ed Lee seems to think that communism is the only possible to alternative to US capitalism. Democratic socialism - think Scandinavia - is one of a number of real world alternative, and it does seem to work a whole let better than communism, and rather better than US capitalism.

>The U.S. Constitution, so does the UN, offer protections of human rights for all men.

It claims to, but the original version was seen to be perfectly compatible with chattel slavery. It certainly doesn\'t offer reliable mechanisms for getting that protection.

> If you amend it to exclude human rights for non-communists, i will be the first to join the gang.

Why would anybody want to do that?

> Until then, aiding the gang is explicitly unconstitutional. So, if the UN does not address it\'s human rights charter. Our court should ask the administration to pull out of the U.N.

Michael Terrell doesn\'t seem to understand what this discussion is about.

> The UN needs to be evicted from NYC and forced to move to Venezuela.

Why Venezuela? It\'s a failed state and the criminal gang now running it has falsely claimed to be socialists. The right-wing US media loves to take this kind of claim seriously - they ignore well-run democratic socialist states (as in Scandinavia) because they don\'t like democratic socialism and slander it at every opportunity.

> Then fumigate the UN building and turn it over to homeless Veterans. That\'s only fair, since the UN was responsible for many of them going to senseless UN caused conflicts. I\'m sure that the \'Armchair Butter Bars\' while whine about this. Screw them.

US army personnel get sent to take part in foreign wars because the US government sends them. The UN exists to minimise conflicts, and the most recent US foreign war - in Irak - wasn\'t caused by the UN but rather by the greed of US oil interests who wanted the Iraki oil fields and were too stupid to realise that the US couldn\'t commit enough troops to hold them once they had been captured.

Michael Terrell can be sensible but he\'s being completely nuts here.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 10:07:28 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:

I\'m following up on old forgotten stories...

Left-wing activist Zachary Greenberg who was arrested years ago for
punching a political rival in the face at UC Berkeley (the video went
viral) has been arrested again, this time for stabbing a cyclist.

The left-wing prosecutor has been dragging its feet on the UC Berkeley
crime. Now, after being charged again without being brought to court for
the first crime, the left-wing judge has let Zachary the Ripper out on
$35,000 bail.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-arrested-stabbing-charges-conservative-activist-uc-berkeley

What happened to the El Salvadoran six-times illegal invader \"Ramon
Escobar\" who murdered his own aunt and uncle hosts in Houston. Then he
fled to Santa Monica California where he became an undocumented undertaker
and BRUTALLY murdered at least four more people. Seems he\'s gone off the
radar, not a thing about him on Google in the last 18 months or so. He was
scheduled for a mental competency hearing. Disappeared. Perhaps they kept
him under supervision for a few months before letting him go in your
neighborhood so he can find some loving companionship.

So much for the Liberal polls!
<https://conservativefighters.org/news/brutal-news-report-shows-no-one-showed-up-for-major-biden-harris-campaign-event-not-much-to-see/>

 

[Ed Lee]

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 6:45:58 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:09:00 PM UTC+11, terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:16:04 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

Until it gets amended to your gang\'s (communist party) advantage.
Ed Lee seems to think that communism is the only possible to alternative to US capitalism. Democratic socialism - think Scandinavia - is one of a number of real world alternative, and it does seem to work a whole let better than communism, and rather better than US capitalism.

You are twisting the discussion. You are the one supporting Communism and CCP in many occasions. You want to change the US Constitution for your advantage. I am saying that if you can turn the US pink. I will join (if the majority agree, why not?) your communist gang. Until then, we should force the UN to address the human right issue, or we should just pull out of the US.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 6:45:58 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:09:00 PM UTC+11, terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:16:04 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

Until it gets amended to your gang\'s (communist party) advantage.
Ed Lee seems to think that communism is the only possible to alternative to US capitalism. Democratic socialism - think Scandinavia - is one of a number of real world alternative, and it does seem to work a whole let better than communism, and rather better than US capitalism.
You are twisting the discussion. You are the one supporting Communism and CCP in many occasions. You want to change the US Constitution for your advantage. I am saying that if you can turn the US pink. I will join (if the majority agree, why not?) your communist gang. Until then, we should force the UN to address the human right issue, or we should just pull out of the US.

pull out of the UN.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:51:40 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> An America-hating zealot...

He\'s a moron. He tries to pull \'facts\' out of his ass. He is too stupid to do any real research for himself. He believes whatever the lying Liberal media tells him, because they have brainwashed him.

Here\'s something else to piss him off about his pervert, butt buddy Biden: <https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-leaked-smoking-gun-emails-hard-drive-shows-vp-involvement-with-burisma-and-so-much-more-984341?>

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 2:28:59 AM UTC+11, terrell....@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:51:40 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
An America-hating zealot...

John Doe does like to make that claim. He seems to have decided that America is perfect just the way it is - which is pretty stupid - and has consequently decided that anybody who suggest that there are ways in which it could be improved must hate the country, which is equally stupid , and doesn\'t happen to be true.

> He\'s a moron.

Demonstrably false.

> He tries to pull \'facts\' out of his ass.

Equally false.

> He is too stupid to do any real research for himself.

I post links to reliable sources all the time. The reliable source don\'t say what Mike Terrell wants to believe, so he ignores them.

> He believes whatever the lying Liberal media tells him, because they have brainwashed him.

Not actually true. I fact-check them as I fact -check everything else. They don\'t actually lie, though sometimes they get the emphasis wrong. They don\'t always tell story that Mike Terrell wants to hear, so he thinks that they are lying, when the problem is that he\'s a gullible sucker for certain kinds of lying right-wing propganda.

> Here\'s something else to piss him off about his pervert, butt buddy Biden: <https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-leaked-smoking-gun-emails-hard-drive-shows-vp-involvement-with-burisma-and-so-much-more-984341?>

Playing golf isn\'t being involved in business dealings. It might be an opportunity to set up such dealings, but in this case it seems to have been a celebrity contact rather than anything else. This is the usual Trump-financed election propaganda, and only twits like Michael Terrell and Flyguy are silly enough to take it seriously. Hunter Biden probably got the gig with Burisma because he was the vice-presidents son and the Ukranians had some unrealistic ideas about what this might be worth, but there\'s not a scrap of evidence suggesting that it ever did them any good.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney