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Cursitor Doom
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AIDS markers found in Coronavirus claim:
https://tinyurl.com/twoqow7
https://tinyurl.com/twoqow7
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Bill Sloman
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On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 11:47:05 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Somebody doesn't know quite how promiscuous viruses are.
If the Coronavirus were to have copied the unique selling point of the AIDs virus, it would spend ten years building up it's numbers in the people it had infected before starting to impair their health.
The corona virus does seem to start shedding infectious material before having a visible effect on the health of the people infected, but this is for a day or two, not a decade.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Somebody doesn't know quite how promiscuous viruses are.
If the Coronavirus were to have copied the unique selling point of the AIDs virus, it would spend ten years building up it's numbers in the people it had infected before starting to impair their health.
The corona virus does seem to start shedding infectious material before having a visible effect on the health of the people infected, but this is for a day or two, not a decade.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Jose Curvo
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On 01/31/2020 06:45 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158053123800
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Sun, 12 Jan 2020 11:00:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID <qvfqbi$1h5h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
"Blowguns and curare darts are a lot quieter and more discrete."
"Could substitute (or simply add) a ricin dart too. Or maybe a little
Polonium. Have to have a lead lined (or clad) blowgun though
."
That guy could be behind this.
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158053123800
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Sun, 12 Jan 2020 11:00:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID <qvfqbi$1h5h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
"Blowguns and curare darts are a lot quieter and more discrete."
"Could substitute (or simply add) a ricin dart too. Or maybe a little
Polonium. Have to have a lead lined (or clad) blowgun though
."That guy could be behind this.
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Jeff Layman
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On 01/02/20 02:45, Bill Sloman wrote:
See <https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1> and
note some of the comments criticising the "science" in the article
referred to in Zerohedge.
Also consider that the coronavirus infection appears to have started
from a street market, and note:
<https://www.the-scientist.com/the-nutshell/promiscuous-virus-40046>
and that was 7 years ago!
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Jeff
See <https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1> and
note some of the comments criticising the "science" in the article
referred to in Zerohedge.
Also consider that the coronavirus infection appears to have started
from a street market, and note:
<https://www.the-scientist.com/the-nutshell/promiscuous-virus-40046>
and that was 7 years ago!
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Jeff
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Robert Baer
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Cursitor Doom wrote:
"artificial"?
Who gives a sh* about "artificial",when the problem is a Bioweapon?
"Artificially Created Bioweapon" .. why is there emphasis on
"artificial"?
Who gives a sh* about "artificial",when the problem is a Bioweapon?
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On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 12:26:02 AM UTC-8, Jeff Layman wrote:
that it is very close to the P4 secret bio lab. Indian researcher found HIV DNA sequence in the SARS based virus. This is a super SARS/HIV virus.
that it is very close to the P4 secret bio lab. Indian researcher found HIV DNA sequence in the SARS based virus. This is a super SARS/HIV virus.
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Tom Gardner
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The answer to any headline "Is X ?" is "no".
The response to any zerohedge article is that
even stopped clocks are right twice a day.
Doubly so when the URL is obscured.
On 01/02/20 00:47, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The response to any zerohedge article is that
even stopped clocks are right twice a day.
Doubly so when the URL is obscured.
On 01/02/20 00:47, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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Lasse Langwadt Christense
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lørdag den 1. februar 2020 kl. 15.22.58 UTC+1 skrev Tom Gardner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
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Cursitor Doom
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 01:34:03 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Because *natural* bioweapons have been used in the past, too. One
obvious example that springs to mind is during the many plagues which
swept across Europe during the middle centuries of the previous
millennium. Trebuchets were used to catapult the fresh corpses of
plague victims over city walls in the hope of infecting the populace
therein. This isn't just some sketch from a Monty Python film, it
actually happened routinely.
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"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.
- Winston Spencer Churchill
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Because *natural* bioweapons have been used in the past, too. One
obvious example that springs to mind is during the many plagues which
swept across Europe during the middle centuries of the previous
millennium. Trebuchets were used to catapult the fresh corpses of
plague victims over city walls in the hope of infecting the populace
therein. This isn't just some sketch from a Monty Python film, it
actually happened routinely.
--
"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.
- Winston Spencer Churchill
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Cursitor Doom
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 06:04:57 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:
>that it is very close to the P4 secret bio lab. Indian researcher found HIV DNA sequence in the SARS based virus. This is a super SARS/HIV virus.
There's the added bonus that if it can be reasonably claimed that this
is indeed an escaped bioweapon from a Chinese lab, then the UK could
*never* continue with its plans to have Huawei products in their phone
network - something the Americans have been desperately keen to
prevent on supposed security grounds. How fortuitous! :-D
wrote:
>that it is very close to the P4 secret bio lab. Indian researcher found HIV DNA sequence in the SARS based virus. This is a super SARS/HIV virus.
There's the added bonus that if it can be reasonably claimed that this
is indeed an escaped bioweapon from a Chinese lab, then the UK could
*never* continue with its plans to have Huawei products in their phone
network - something the Americans have been desperately keen to
prevent on supposed security grounds. How fortuitous! :-D
Guest
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 00:47:01 +0000, Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Viruses (and practically every other beast) constantly swap/steal bits
of other critter's genomes. Corona and HIV could have naturally
merged.
Every living thing is a genetic laboratory, and that's a lot of labs.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Viruses (and practically every other beast) constantly swap/steal bits
of other critter's genomes. Corona and HIV could have naturally
merged.
Every living thing is a genetic laboratory, and that's a lot of labs.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
Guest
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 7:40:23 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Too much of a coincident. The P4 lab is right at the center of the outbreak.. PLAs are fully deployed for information control, rather than virus control. The central government overrode local authority early on, to facilitate the evacuation of the (5 million) elites. Many indications of serious damage controls, according to some leaked news and videos. They even attempted to blame outside (U.S.) source for bio WMD, but was quickly traced back to P4. Ironically, China succeeded in doing what Japan failed to do in WW II, but to itself.
Too much of a coincident. The P4 lab is right at the center of the outbreak.. PLAs are fully deployed for information control, rather than virus control. The central government overrode local authority early on, to facilitate the evacuation of the (5 million) elites. Many indications of serious damage controls, according to some leaked news and videos. They even attempted to blame outside (U.S.) source for bio WMD, but was quickly traced back to P4. Ironically, China succeeded in doing what Japan failed to do in WW II, but to itself.
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:mc7b3f931qovmlhign6r0d4amv77jjjakp@4ax.com:
That's what Shiva said.
news:mc7b3f931qovmlhign6r0d4amv77jjjakp@4ax.com:
That's what Shiva said.
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bitrex
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On 2/1/20 9:22 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
The "claim" got ZeroHedge hell-banned from Twitter for doxxing a 99.999%
probable entirely-innocent Chinese scientist like the deranged
crack-smoking conspiracy nuts they are, I hope it was worth it.
They took one hit off the pipe too many. Maybe he's running the child
sex ring in the DC pizza parlor, too.
The "claim" got ZeroHedge hell-banned from Twitter for doxxing a 99.999%
probable entirely-innocent Chinese scientist like the deranged
crack-smoking conspiracy nuts they are, I hope it was worth it.
They took one hit off the pipe too many. Maybe he's running the child
sex ring in the DC pizza parlor, too.
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bitrex
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On 2/1/20 3:25 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
Twitter wiped ZeroHedge's Twitter account and locked 'em out forever for
this one; the only people who will miss it are its core audience who a
more rational era of history would be receiving treatment in a
psychiatric facility somewhere.
Twitter wiped ZeroHedge's Twitter account and locked 'em out forever for
this one; the only people who will miss it are its core audience who a
more rational era of history would be receiving treatment in a
psychiatric facility somewhere.
Guest
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
I am not a generic engineer; so, i don't know. But reading from news:
> SARS and HIV are very different diseases. The new corona virus is tolerably like SARS, but there's no reason to imagine that anybody has tweeked the SARS genome to create it - that kind of virus is mutating all the time without any external help.
The P4 virus is 80% similar to SARS. But has generic markings of HIV and HIV drugs are partially effective against it. However, it cannot be controlled completely with HIV drugs. This P4 virus is the best of both SARS and HIV.
It's the prefect bio WMD so far.
I am not a generic engineer; so, i don't know. But reading from news:
> SARS and HIV are very different diseases. The new corona virus is tolerably like SARS, but there's no reason to imagine that anybody has tweeked the SARS genome to create it - that kind of virus is mutating all the time without any external help.
The P4 virus is 80% similar to SARS. But has generic markings of HIV and HIV drugs are partially effective against it. However, it cannot be controlled completely with HIV drugs. This P4 virus is the best of both SARS and HIV.
It's the prefect bio WMD so far.
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Lasse Langwadt Christense
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lørdag den 1. februar 2020 kl. 15.05.03 UTC+1 skrev edward...@gmail.com:
https://www.breakthroughs.com/foundations-science/how-genetically-related-are-we-bananas
https://www.breakthroughs.com/foundations-science/how-genetically-related-are-we-bananas
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Bill Sloman
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On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 1:05:03 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
How long was the sequence? How many other viral genomes have the same sequence?
SARS and HIV are very different diseases. The new corona virus is tolerably like SARS, but there's no reason to imagine that anybody has tweeked the SARS genome to create it - that kind of virus is mutating all the time without any external help.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
How long was the sequence? How many other viral genomes have the same sequence?
SARS and HIV are very different diseases. The new corona virus is tolerably like SARS, but there's no reason to imagine that anybody has tweeked the SARS genome to create it - that kind of virus is mutating all the time without any external help.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
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On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 3:22:01 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2020/jan/28/blog-posting/no-evidence-chinese-officials-will-say-coronavirus/
It looks more like a Breitbart beat-up than anything else.
> PLAs are fully deployed for information control, rather than virus control.
The People's Liberation Armies?
> The central government overrode local authority early on, to facilitate the evacuation of the (5 million) elites.
No surprise there, but no evidence of biological warfare either. They'd have reacted in exactly the same way to a perfectly natural plague.
> Many indications of serious damage controls, according to some leaked news and videos.
After SARS (not to mention the Spanish flu) the whole world is pretty nervous about any kind of viral pneumonic plague. It's a perfectly reasonable attitude.
> They even attempted to blame outside (U.S.) source for bio WMD, but was quickly traced back to P4. Ironically, China succeeded in doing what Japan failed to do in WW II, but to itself.
If you believe the kind of twaddle peddled by Breitbart and similar groups, and right-wing nitwits are Breitbart's natural prey.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2020/jan/28/blog-posting/no-evidence-chinese-officials-will-say-coronavirus/
It looks more like a Breitbart beat-up than anything else.
> PLAs are fully deployed for information control, rather than virus control.
The People's Liberation Armies?
> The central government overrode local authority early on, to facilitate the evacuation of the (5 million) elites.
No surprise there, but no evidence of biological warfare either. They'd have reacted in exactly the same way to a perfectly natural plague.
> Many indications of serious damage controls, according to some leaked news and videos.
After SARS (not to mention the Spanish flu) the whole world is pretty nervous about any kind of viral pneumonic plague. It's a perfectly reasonable attitude.
> They even attempted to blame outside (U.S.) source for bio WMD, but was quickly traced back to P4. Ironically, China succeeded in doing what Japan failed to do in WW II, but to itself.
If you believe the kind of twaddle peddled by Breitbart and similar groups, and right-wing nitwits are Breitbart's natural prey.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
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On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 2:10:38 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
One has to wonder how an imagined bioweapon could constitute an argument that China was going to put a backdoor into the Huawei 5G phone chip.
5G Mobile phone chips are large, and quite big enough to hide a backdoor or two.
The interesting question has always been how you might prove that Huawei hadn't done this (or Qualcomm either).
Military intelligence is all about capabilities, rather than intentions, From the point of view, the fact that Huawei probably could put a backdoor or two into their 5G phone chip is all the evidence the spooks need.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
One has to wonder how an imagined bioweapon could constitute an argument that China was going to put a backdoor into the Huawei 5G phone chip.
5G Mobile phone chips are large, and quite big enough to hide a backdoor or two.
The interesting question has always been how you might prove that Huawei hadn't done this (or Qualcomm either).
Military intelligence is all about capabilities, rather than intentions, From the point of view, the fact that Huawei probably could put a backdoor or two into their 5G phone chip is all the evidence the spooks need.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney