OT: How we're preparing for COVID-19 over here

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Pimpom

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A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of
Israel in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma
(Myanmar) with a population of 1.7 million. We have little in
common with mainstream India - language, culture, religion, even
our physical appearance are quite different. Towns and large
villages are divided into localities called "Veng" which also
serve as administrative blocks with their own elected councils.

Our NGOs are well organised and for the past several decades,
they have maintained P.A. systems covering each Veng. This is
particularly useful in emergencies. We have a close-knit society
and, in normal times, it would be very unusual for as few as a
hundred people to attend the funeral of the poorest and least
significant member of society. When someone dies, NGOs take care
of everything.

Today is the 14th day of the 21-day lockdown ordered by the
Indian Prime Minister. Local councils and NGOs have formed a
local task force and place themselves on duty at strategic
locations, working with the police in enforcing the curfew in a
firm but courteous manner.

They make announcements over the PA system, keeping the people
informed and asking anyone who needs help in anything to call
them. They give food and other essentials to out-of-state people
who did not have time to prepare for the lockdown. Once in a
while, a couple of local task force members go around offering
essential foodstuff like rice, eggs, onions, potatoes, pulses,
etc. for sale at normal prices. Profiteering is forbidden.

Church services are suspended of course, but each local church
rings its bell at the usual times and ask each household to
conduct family worship times. Gospel music is occasionally played
over the PA system. Tomorrow being Palm Sunday, church bells will
ring at 11:00 am and Hosannas will be led over the PA system.

The state's new and only medical college - a small one by Western
standards - has been earmarked as a treatment centre for COVID-19
patients. So far there's only one confirmed case in the state - a
Baptist pastor who returned from the Netherlands on March 16 and
developed symptoms while in self-quarantine. The whole family was
whisked away to the centre. He's reported to be recovering. His
family was tested and pronounced free of the virus. They issued a
profound apology on social media for introducing the virus in the
state.

The sole airport is closed, as are state borders except to
carriers of essential goods. The last flight was a special one
chartered by the government to bring in medical supplies like
PPEs, ventilators, etc. Masks, gloves, PPEs and disinfectants are
widely distributed. The government is doing what it can to help
those of our people who are stranded in other states.

Despite all this, it's unlikely that the pandemic will bypass the
state. It's just not possible to watch and control everything.
We'll just have to wait and see.
 
On 4/5/2020 1:22 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/4/2020 3:17 PM, Pimpom wrote:
A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of Israel
in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma (Myanmar) with
a population of 1.7 million. We have little in common with mainstream
India - language, culture, religion, even our physical appearance are
quite different.
..........<snip>.........



Entirely incidentally my mother lived with her first husband, an English
professor, for two years in Kerala around 1970-1972. That was a time
when a white woman in a Western bathing-suit at a Trivandrum beach was a
novelty to many people I guess.

That beach is much different now it's all resort hotels and such and
built up, I'm sure the tourist industry is going to take a huge hit
everywhere there that has one.

They lived next door to some Soviet "advisors" for a while everyone
seemed to think they were pains in the ass Mom and her husband included lol

Never been to Kerala myself. However, I was in the neighbouring
state of Tamil Nadu around the time your mom was in Kerala. I was
working at the Christian Medical College Hospital, at that time
considered to be one of the top hospitals in Asia.

I'm not sure your mom et al were seen as PITA. Those days in
particular, foreigners were very much looked up to in India. I
don't look Indian so, even though I was only a technician then,
many of my fellow workers called me "Sir".
 
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 00:47:54 +0530, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of
Israel in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma
(Myanmar) with a population of 1.7 million. We have little in
common with mainstream India - language, culture, religion, even
our physical appearance are quite different. Towns and large
villages are divided into localities called "Veng" which also
serve as administrative blocks with their own elected councils.

Our NGOs are well organised and for the past several decades,
they have maintained P.A. systems covering each Veng. This is
particularly useful in emergencies. We have a close-knit society
and, in normal times, it would be very unusual for as few as a
hundred people to attend the funeral of the poorest and least
significant member of society. When someone dies, NGOs take care
of everything.

Today is the 14th day of the 21-day lockdown ordered by the
Indian Prime Minister. Local councils and NGOs have formed a
local task force and place themselves on duty at strategic
locations, working with the police in enforcing the curfew in a
firm but courteous manner.

They make announcements over the PA system, keeping the people
informed and asking anyone who needs help in anything to call
them. They give food and other essentials to out-of-state people
who did not have time to prepare for the lockdown. Once in a
while, a couple of local task force members go around offering
essential foodstuff like rice, eggs, onions, potatoes, pulses,
etc. for sale at normal prices. Profiteering is forbidden.

Church services are suspended of course, but each local church
rings its bell at the usual times and ask each household to
conduct family worship times. Gospel music is occasionally played
over the PA system. Tomorrow being Palm Sunday, church bells will
ring at 11:00 am and Hosannas will be led over the PA system.

The state's new and only medical college - a small one by Western
standards - has been earmarked as a treatment centre for COVID-19
patients. So far there's only one confirmed case in the state - a
Baptist pastor who returned from the Netherlands on March 16 and
developed symptoms while in self-quarantine. The whole family was
whisked away to the centre. He's reported to be recovering. His
family was tested and pronounced free of the virus. They issued a
profound apology on social media for introducing the virus in the
state.

The sole airport is closed, as are state borders except to
carriers of essential goods. The last flight was a special one
chartered by the government to bring in medical supplies like
PPEs, ventilators, etc. Masks, gloves, PPEs and disinfectants are
widely distributed. The government is doing what it can to help
those of our people who are stranded in other states.

Despite all this, it's unlikely that the pandemic will bypass the
state. It's just not possible to watch and control everything.
We'll just have to wait and see.

Well, you have been civilized for a couple of thousand years longer
than us.

What's the weather like now? Warm may help.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On 4/4/2020 4:15 PM, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/5/2020 1:22 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/4/2020 3:17 PM, Pimpom wrote:
A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of Israel
in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma (Myanmar) with
a population of 1.7 million. We have little in common with mainstream
India - language, culture, religion, even our physical appearance are
quite different.
.........<snip>.........



Entirely incidentally my mother lived with her first husband, an English
professor, for two years in Kerala around 1970-1972. That was a time
when a white woman in a Western bathing-suit at a Trivandrum beach was a
novelty to many people I guess.

That beach is much different now it's all resort hotels and such and
built up, I'm sure the tourist industry is going to take a huge hit
everywhere there that has one.

They lived next door to some Soviet "advisors" for a while everyone
seemed to think they were pains in the ass Mom and her husband
included lol


Never been to Kerala myself. However, I was in the neighbouring state of
Tamil Nadu around the time your mom was in Kerala. I was working at the
Christian Medical College Hospital, at that time considered to be one of
the top hospitals in Asia.

I'm not sure your mom et al were seen as PITA. Those days in particular,
foreigners were very much looked up to in India. I don't look Indian so,
even though I was only a technician then, many of my fellow workers
called me "Sir".

Ah no, my mother and her husband were American and they got along pretty
well with the locals. The Soviet citizens seemed much more ah,
"culturally different" than either the locals or Americans. that is to
say their English was pretty good but they "had their ideas about
things" that would often cause both Indians (even communist Indians I
guess) and Americans to roll their eyes.

There was one incident where the local authorities were rather annoyed
with her husband some students got their hands whether intentionally or
accidentally, I don't know, on some books and media from him that were
on the banned-list like e.g. Lady Chatterly's Lover and the Beatles.
kids everywhere seemed to want rock & roll and porn I guess. I don't
think he ever did jail time or something but the "feds" were very
displeased.
 
On 4/4/2020 4:28 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/4/2020 4:15 PM, Pimpom wrote:
On 4/5/2020 1:22 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/4/2020 3:17 PM, Pimpom wrote:
A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of Israel
in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma (Myanmar)
with
a population of 1.7 million. We have little in common with mainstream
India - language, culture, religion, even our physical appearance are
quite different.
.........<snip>.........



Entirely incidentally my mother lived with her first husband, an English
professor, for two years in Kerala around 1970-1972. That was a time
when a white woman in a Western bathing-suit at a Trivandrum beach was a
novelty to many people I guess.

That beach is much different now it's all resort hotels and such and
built up, I'm sure the tourist industry is going to take a huge hit
everywhere there that has one.

They lived next door to some Soviet "advisors" for a while everyone
seemed to think they were pains in the ass Mom and her husband
included lol


Never been to Kerala myself. However, I was in the neighbouring state
of Tamil Nadu around the time your mom was in Kerala. I was working at
the Christian Medical College Hospital, at that time considered to be
one of the top hospitals in Asia.

I'm not sure your mom et al were seen as PITA. Those days in
particular, foreigners were very much looked up to in India. I don't
look Indian so, even though I was only a technician then, many of my
fellow workers called me "Sir".

Ah no, my mother and her husband were American and they got along pretty
well with the locals. The Soviet citizens seemed much more ah,
"culturally different" than either the locals or Americans. that is to
say their English was pretty good but they "had their ideas about
things" that would often cause both Indians (even communist Indians I
guess) and Americans to roll their eyes.

Self-important but like, clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed if
you know what I mean
 
On 4/4/2020 3:17 PM, Pimpom wrote:
A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of Israel
in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma (Myanmar) with
a population of 1.7 million. We have little in common with mainstream
India - language, culture, religion, even our physical appearance are
quite different. Towns and large villages are divided into localities
called "Veng" which also serve as administrative blocks with their own
elected councils.

Our NGOs are well organised and for the past several decades, they have
maintained P.A. systems covering each Veng. This is particularly useful
in emergencies. We have a close-knit society and, in normal times, it
would be very unusual for as few as a hundred people to attend the
funeral of the poorest and least significant member of society. When
someone dies, NGOs take care of everything.

Today is the 14th day of the 21-day lockdown ordered by the Indian Prime
Minister. Local councils and NGOs have formed a local task force and
place themselves on duty at strategic locations, working with the police
in enforcing the curfew in a firm but courteous manner.

They make announcements over the PA system, keeping the people informed
and asking anyone who needs help in anything to call them. They give
food and other essentials to out-of-state people who did not have time
to prepare for the lockdown. Once in a while, a couple of local task
force members go around offering essential foodstuff like rice, eggs,
onions, potatoes, pulses, etc. for sale at normal prices. Profiteering
is forbidden.

Church services are suspended of course, but each local church rings its
bell at the usual times and ask each household to conduct family worship
times. Gospel music is occasionally played over the PA system. Tomorrow
being Palm Sunday, church bells will ring at 11:00 am and Hosannas will
be led over the PA system.

The state's new and only medical college - a small one by Western
standards - has been earmarked as a treatment centre for COVID-19
patients. So far there's only one confirmed case in the state - a
Baptist pastor who returned from the Netherlands on March 16 and
developed symptoms while in self-quarantine. The whole family was
whisked away to the centre. He's reported to be recovering. His family
was tested and pronounced free of the virus. They issued a profound
apology on social media for introducing the virus in the state.

The sole airport is closed, as are state borders except to carriers of
essential goods. The last flight was a special one chartered by the
government to bring in medical supplies like PPEs, ventilators, etc.
Masks, gloves, PPEs and disinfectants are widely distributed. The
government is doing what it can to help those of our people who are
stranded in other states.

Despite all this, it's unlikely that the pandemic will bypass the state.
It's just not possible to watch and control everything. We'll just have
to wait and see.

Entirely incidentally my mother lived with her first husband, an English
professor, for two years in Kerala around 1970-1972. That was a time
when a white woman in a Western bathing-suit at a Trivandrum beach was a
novelty to many people I guess.

That beach is much different now it's all resort hotels and such and
built up, I'm sure the tourist industry is going to take a huge hit
everywhere there that has one.

They lived next door to some Soviet "advisors" for a while everyone
seemed to think they were pains in the ass Mom and her husband included lol
 
On 4/4/2020 4:16 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 00:47:54 +0530, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

A little background first: "Over here" means a state the size of
Israel in eastern India, sandwiched between Bangladesh and Burma
(Myanmar) with a population of 1.7 million. We have little in
common with mainstream India - language, culture, religion, even
our physical appearance are quite different. Towns and large
villages are divided into localities called "Veng" which also
serve as administrative blocks with their own elected councils.

Our NGOs are well organised and for the past several decades,
they have maintained P.A. systems covering each Veng. This is
particularly useful in emergencies. We have a close-knit society
and, in normal times, it would be very unusual for as few as a
hundred people to attend the funeral of the poorest and least
significant member of society. When someone dies, NGOs take care
of everything.

Today is the 14th day of the 21-day lockdown ordered by the
Indian Prime Minister. Local councils and NGOs have formed a
local task force and place themselves on duty at strategic
locations, working with the police in enforcing the curfew in a
firm but courteous manner.

They make announcements over the PA system, keeping the people
informed and asking anyone who needs help in anything to call
them. They give food and other essentials to out-of-state people
who did not have time to prepare for the lockdown. Once in a
while, a couple of local task force members go around offering
essential foodstuff like rice, eggs, onions, potatoes, pulses,
etc. for sale at normal prices. Profiteering is forbidden.

Church services are suspended of course, but each local church
rings its bell at the usual times and ask each household to
conduct family worship times. Gospel music is occasionally played
over the PA system. Tomorrow being Palm Sunday, church bells will
ring at 11:00 am and Hosannas will be led over the PA system.

The state's new and only medical college - a small one by Western
standards - has been earmarked as a treatment centre for COVID-19
patients. So far there's only one confirmed case in the state - a
Baptist pastor who returned from the Netherlands on March 16 and
developed symptoms while in self-quarantine. The whole family was
whisked away to the centre. He's reported to be recovering. His
family was tested and pronounced free of the virus. They issued a
profound apology on social media for introducing the virus in the
state.

The sole airport is closed, as are state borders except to
carriers of essential goods. The last flight was a special one
chartered by the government to bring in medical supplies like
PPEs, ventilators, etc. Masks, gloves, PPEs and disinfectants are
widely distributed. The government is doing what it can to help
those of our people who are stranded in other states.

Despite all this, it's unlikely that the pandemic will bypass the
state. It's just not possible to watch and control everything.
We'll just have to wait and see.


Well, you have been civilized for a couple of thousand years longer
than us.

What's the weather like now? Warm may help.

Historically in temperate climates mortality rate from all natural
causes had two peaks, in April and May and again in late August and
September. Back to antiquity it seems to have been this way in Rome and
ancient Egypt extrapolated from mummies and tooth wear patterns.

It's all complicated now with central heating and air conditioning
widely available. it varies with a lot of demographics.

I don't think it's known precisely to science why common viral illness
like the cold and flu seem to favor colder months vs. warmer there are
competing hypothesis.
 

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