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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 18:00:24 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Of course people who don\'t design things have different attitudes
towards new ideas. They instinctively don\'t like them.
That would have to state reasons, something better than \"you are
stupid.\" They might even practice having some ideas of their own.
No! System dynamics transcends a lot of things. The tools that we use
in electronic design (formal logic, number theory, signals and
systems, control theory, thermo, optics, physics, information theory,
measurement, statistics) have hard analogies to many other fields,
which is why electronics is now ubiquitous. And why EEs can help
others understand their own processes. That\'s fun, actually.
Killing ideas in 100 milliseconds is excellent practice for killing
ideas in 100 milliseconds. After a while, you can do it without
thinking.
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<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Of course people who don\'t design things have different attitudes
towards new ideas. They instinctively don\'t like them.
That would have to state reasons, something better than \"you are
stupid.\" They might even practice having some ideas of their own.
No! System dynamics transcends a lot of things. The tools that we use
in electronic design (formal logic, number theory, signals and
systems, control theory, thermo, optics, physics, information theory,
measurement, statistics) have hard analogies to many other fields,
which is why electronics is now ubiquitous. And why EEs can help
others understand their own processes. That\'s fun, actually.
Killing ideas in 100 milliseconds is excellent practice for killing
ideas in 100 milliseconds. After a while, you can do it without
thinking.
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Clifford Heath
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On 15/2/22 2:48 pm, whit3rd wrote:
No, it was famed because it contained about the only library that wasn\'t
burnt by Northern barbarians wearing crosses. A significant percentage
of the scholarly work was Roman or Greek, but the Moors had definitely
extended it in important areas.
BTW, the Arabs call them \"Hindi numbers\". Just saying...
No, it was famed because it contained about the only library that wasn\'t
burnt by Northern barbarians wearing crosses. A significant percentage
of the scholarly work was Roman or Greek, but the Moors had definitely
extended it in important areas.
BTW, the Arabs call them \"Hindi numbers\". Just saying...
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 06:10:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
For starters, it\'s big. Not available in surface mount.
We need a few big storms. There\'s only been a few inches of snow for 6
weeks.
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<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
For starters, it\'s big. Not available in surface mount.
I have 250Ah 12V lifepo4 sitting in a waterproof housing here:
http://panteltje.com/pub/250_Ah_12V_to_230V_sinewave_IXXIMG_0796.JPG
No energy wasted.
The thing on top is a 2kW 12V to 230V pure sinewave converter.
It is actully for a boat, but served me well during a power outage here last week
Works much longer than the UPS
Big storm coming now here, no more trains even.
We need a few big storms. There\'s only been a few inches of snow for 6
weeks.
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On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 4:03:04 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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The problem is that you don\'t have new ideas. What you come up with are old ideas, long exploded, even of they look new to you.
They do, but you can\'t be bothered processing them. Maybe if they were sweetened by a liberal dose of flattery you might take them more seriously.
> They might even practice having some ideas of their own.
We do, but you couldn\'t care less about them, and don\'t register their existence.
What a load of pretentious nonsense. The tools named exist in their own right, and electronics is just one of the practical arts where they find application.
John Larkin would know. He doesn\'t do much thinking, and imagines that everybody else is equally crippled.
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The problem is that you don\'t have new ideas. What you come up with are old ideas, long exploded, even of they look new to you.
They do, but you can\'t be bothered processing them. Maybe if they were sweetened by a liberal dose of flattery you might take them more seriously.
> They might even practice having some ideas of their own.
We do, but you couldn\'t care less about them, and don\'t register their existence.
What a load of pretentious nonsense. The tools named exist in their own right, and electronics is just one of the practical arts where they find application.
John Larkin would know. He doesn\'t do much thinking, and imagines that everybody else is equally crippled.
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:25:04 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Given a physics and electronics topic, you keep clucking.
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<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Given a physics and electronics topic, you keep clucking.
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On 18/02/2022 16:39, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Look, if you want to discuss electronics, physics, or anything else -
great. But /please/ learn how Usenet works. This thread is \"OT: How
life came to Earth\". That\'s the topic for the thread. If you want to
start discussing something very different that bears no relation to the
current topic or posts, start a new thread!
As it stands, you are doing nothing but mucking up a biology discussion
even more, and ensuring that anyone who is interested in motor control
but uninterested in biology will miss out on the motor discussion.
One might think your motivation has nothing to do with an interest in
motors, and your post is just your silly holier-than-thou attempt at
\"proving\" you are a fabulous designer full of wonderful ideas, and other
people are not.
Look, if you want to discuss electronics, physics, or anything else -
great. But /please/ learn how Usenet works. This thread is \"OT: How
life came to Earth\". That\'s the topic for the thread. If you want to
start discussing something very different that bears no relation to the
current topic or posts, start a new thread!
As it stands, you are doing nothing but mucking up a biology discussion
even more, and ensuring that anyone who is interested in motor control
but uninterested in biology will miss out on the motor discussion.
One might think your motivation has nothing to do with an interest in
motors, and your post is just your silly holier-than-thou attempt at
\"proving\" you are a fabulous designer full of wonderful ideas, and other
people are not.
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On 15/02/2022 02:59, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
I could indeed have gone into detail. I was impressed on the density of
errors in John\'s claim - mistakes and misunderstandings are common, but
it\'s rare to see it taken to such a high level in such a compact statement.
I could indeed have gone into detail. I was impressed on the density of
errors in John\'s claim - mistakes and misunderstandings are common, but
it\'s rare to see it taken to such a high level in such a compact statement.
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:35:26 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
/please/ learn how Usenet works. This group is unmoderated.
I was hoping that mentioning electronics and physics would drive the
chickens away. It mostly did.
Well, that applies between you and me.
You\'re not a biologist either.
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<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
/please/ learn how Usenet works. This group is unmoderated.
I was hoping that mentioning electronics and physics would drive the
chickens away. It mostly did.
Well, that applies between you and me.
You\'re not a biologist either.
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David Brown
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On 15/02/2022 06:02, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
you are saying something stupid or ignorant. However, it merely
re-enforces the impression you give of narcissism combined with a total
lack of interest in anyone else or anything else around you.
Spotting when an idea or claim is hopeless does not correlate with being
bad at designing - on the contrary, it is a /useful/ trait for a
designer. Posting claims about how much you design stuff does not
correlate with /actually/ designing stuff more than someone who does not
make such boasts - on the contrary, people doing real work are more
likely to keep quiet in a group like this.
Basically, this is just another of your self-soothing platitudes that
you spout without any thought or justification, because it makes you
feel good about yourself and lets you insult people rather than actually
learning something or admitting to yourself that you are not as perfect
as you believe.
You like to bandy that about as an insult to anyone who tells you when
you are saying something stupid or ignorant. However, it merely
re-enforces the impression you give of narcissism combined with a total
lack of interest in anyone else or anything else around you.
Spotting when an idea or claim is hopeless does not correlate with being
bad at designing - on the contrary, it is a /useful/ trait for a
designer. Posting claims about how much you design stuff does not
correlate with /actually/ designing stuff more than someone who does not
make such boasts - on the contrary, people doing real work are more
likely to keep quiet in a group like this.
Basically, this is just another of your self-soothing platitudes that
you spout without any thought or justification, because it makes you
feel good about yourself and lets you insult people rather than actually
learning something or admitting to yourself that you are not as perfect
as you believe.
J
Jan Panteltje
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On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Feb 2022 07:39:21 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<f9fv0htkdpogj38q6md671qfogfvcm9uqu@4ax.com>:
Depends on your definition of surface mount
mine is in a suitcase format, easy to put on any surface.
It is more green to use a battery as flywheel than to heat up the environment even more ;-)
If you power the thing from the same battery then you have a portable setup.
We have code red now, 3 people already died from falling trees.
My sat dish is now slightly out of alignment.
Have to wait for it to calm down to fix it.
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<f9fv0htkdpogj38q6md671qfogfvcm9uqu@4ax.com>:
Depends on your definition of surface mount
mine is in a suitcase format, easy to put on any surface.
It is more green to use a battery as flywheel than to heat up the environment even more ;-)
If you power the thing from the same battery then you have a portable setup.
I have 250Ah 12V lifepo4 sitting in a waterproof housing here:
http://panteltje.com/pub/250_Ah_12V_to_230V_sinewave_IXXIMG_0796.JPG
No energy wasted.
The thing on top is a 2kW 12V to 230V pure sinewave converter.
It is actully for a boat, but served me well during a power outage here last week
Works much longer than the UPS
Big storm coming now here, no more trains even.
We need a few big storms. There\'s only been a few inches of snow for 6
weeks.
We have code red now, 3 people already died from falling trees.
My sat dish is now slightly out of alignment.
Have to wait for it to calm down to fix it.
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Tom Gardner
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On 18/02/22 15:39, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
You cluck twice as often. Or is that gabble?
You cluck twice as often. Or is that gabble?
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:22:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
We got an insane, all-time-record, snowpack in December, and then it
stopped. But there\'s still a lot on the ground up there.
https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams
The weather is extremely erratic on the US West coast.
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<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Feb 2022 07:39:21 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
f9fv0htkdpogj38q6md671qfogfvcm9uqu@4ax.com>:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 06:10:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 17 Feb 2022 11:58:55 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
vf9t0hlme1baqj9vru53dlgdvoanjsa6q4@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 11:32:43 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 9:40:06 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:35:22 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
I can\'t build a reasonable board that would absorb energy during
acceleration and return it during deceleration,
Actually, we could. It would be a pain, so I hope my customers don\'t
find that feature appealing.
To absorb energy during acceleration, a flywheel. To return energy during
deceleration... a flywheel.
Not sure why electronics would be involved. Mass would be my first go-to solution.
It wouldn\'t fit on a PC board. And we want all the parameters to be
programmable.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ubv5if7cbnsjzn/P940-8_front.jpg?raw=1
The torque motor simulator (or several) would go on one of those
plugin boards.
During acceleration, we could dissipate the customer\'s drive power,
blow hot air out the back of the box. During decel, we could push back
power from our main kilowatt power supply. Giant hassle, but no energy
storage would be required.
What is wrong with some big battery pack for storage and reclaim?
For starters, it\'s big. Not available in surface mount.
Depends on your definition of surface mount
mine is in a suitcase format, easy to put on any surface.
It is more green to use a battery as flywheel than to heat up the environment even more ;-)
If you power the thing from the same battery then you have a portable setup.
I have 250Ah 12V lifepo4 sitting in a waterproof housing here:
http://panteltje.com/pub/250_Ah_12V_to_230V_sinewave_IXXIMG_0796.JPG
No energy wasted.
The thing on top is a 2kW 12V to 230V pure sinewave converter.
It is actully for a boat, but served me well during a power outage here last week
Works much longer than the UPS
Big storm coming now here, no more trains even.
We need a few big storms. There\'s only been a few inches of snow for 6
weeks.
We have code red now, 3 people already died from falling trees.
My sat dish is now slightly out of alignment.
Have to wait for it to calm down to fix it.
We got an insane, all-time-record, snowpack in December, and then it
stopped. But there\'s still a lot on the ground up there.
https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams
The weather is extremely erratic on the US West coast.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:38:13 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
Precisely. Especially in response to people who are neither designers
nor biologists; people unqualified (and rude enough) to call
reasonable suggestions stupid and ignorant.
Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
I\'m enormously interested in all sorts of things. Curiousity is a
basic component of invention. I have to donate boxes of books to make
room for more.
Right now I\'m reading Wilson\'s classic On Human Nature. That guy could
sure think.
I sometimes make suggestions about physical reality, with no personal
content, and get in response not serious criticism or alternate ideas,
but barrages of insults from admitted amateurs. I try to be friendly
and helpful to anyone who asks questions where I can help.
This ain\'t Facebook, but most people here who don\'t design electronics
want to my-o-my about personalities. Especially mine, which is a weird
waste of peoples time. Don\'t you have anything more interesting to do?
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<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
Precisely. Especially in response to people who are neither designers
nor biologists; people unqualified (and rude enough) to call
reasonable suggestions stupid and ignorant.
Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
I\'m enormously interested in all sorts of things. Curiousity is a
basic component of invention. I have to donate boxes of books to make
room for more.
Right now I\'m reading Wilson\'s classic On Human Nature. That guy could
sure think.
I sometimes make suggestions about physical reality, with no personal
content, and get in response not serious criticism or alternate ideas,
but barrages of insults from admitted amateurs. I try to be friendly
and helpful to anyone who asks questions where I can help.
This ain\'t Facebook, but most people here who don\'t design electronics
want to my-o-my about personalities. Especially mine, which is a weird
waste of peoples time. Don\'t you have anything more interesting to do?
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On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:07:39 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Your ideas about biology are incoherent enough that what I learned in first year biology in 1960 is enough to clue me into the stupidity of ignorance of your posts in the area. I\'ve read quite a lot about biology since then, and you don\'t seem to have done any reading in the area at all at all. The intelligent design crap that shows up in your output may be from creationist propaganda, so you may think you have done some reading, but it clearly hasn\'t been from reliable sources.
> Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
You certainly do.
But you get your ideas about global warming from Anthony Watts. It\'s easier and cheaper to get access to self-serving propaganda than it is to get reliable information from reliable sources.
> Right now I\'m reading Wilson\'s classic On Human Nature. That guy could sure think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Human_Nature
Whether you will get the right message from it is uncertain. Flyguy has remarkable habit of citing stuff that doesn\'t support his bizarre points of view at all, and claiming that it does.
The formulation is usually \"I don\'t know much about X but I do know enough to know that John Larkin\'s suggestion is flat-out wrong\"
That doesn\'t make them an \"admitted amateur\".
> I try to be friendly and helpful to anyone who asks questions where I can help.
I can\'t say I can recall an example.
> This ain\'t Facebook, but most people here who don\'t design electronics want to my-o-my about personalities.
You do have funny ideas about what constitutes electronic design, and tend to take criticism (or insufficient admiration) very personally.
> Especially mine, which is a weird waste of peoples time.
For years you posted a lot more than anybody else. That makes your personality interesting
> Don\'t you have anything more interesting to do?
That\'s the question we ask ourselves quite often.
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Your ideas about biology are incoherent enough that what I learned in first year biology in 1960 is enough to clue me into the stupidity of ignorance of your posts in the area. I\'ve read quite a lot about biology since then, and you don\'t seem to have done any reading in the area at all at all. The intelligent design crap that shows up in your output may be from creationist propaganda, so you may think you have done some reading, but it clearly hasn\'t been from reliable sources.
> Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
You certainly do.
But you get your ideas about global warming from Anthony Watts. It\'s easier and cheaper to get access to self-serving propaganda than it is to get reliable information from reliable sources.
> Right now I\'m reading Wilson\'s classic On Human Nature. That guy could sure think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Human_Nature
Whether you will get the right message from it is uncertain. Flyguy has remarkable habit of citing stuff that doesn\'t support his bizarre points of view at all, and claiming that it does.
The formulation is usually \"I don\'t know much about X but I do know enough to know that John Larkin\'s suggestion is flat-out wrong\"
That doesn\'t make them an \"admitted amateur\".
> I try to be friendly and helpful to anyone who asks questions where I can help.
I can\'t say I can recall an example.
> This ain\'t Facebook, but most people here who don\'t design electronics want to my-o-my about personalities.
You do have funny ideas about what constitutes electronic design, and tend to take criticism (or insufficient admiration) very personally.
> Especially mine, which is a weird waste of peoples time.
For years you posted a lot more than anybody else. That makes your personality interesting
> Don\'t you have anything more interesting to do?
That\'s the question we ask ourselves quite often.
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote in
news:suohsf$oif$1@dont-email.me:
Precisely. On both points... He doesn\'t know how Usenet works,
and should be starting a new thread, not pissing and moaning about
how little we all know and how much he knows.
news:suohsf$oif$1@dont-email.me:
Precisely. On both points... He doesn\'t know how Usenet works,
and should be starting a new thread, not pissing and moaning about
how little we all know and how much he knows.
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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Yeah, fucktard it is. But COMMON COURTESY dictates that YOU,
motherfucker stop interloping into a thread if all you are going to do
is your inane neverending piss and moan non-point(s).
So as he said, shithead... start a new thread, you fucking putz!
news:mbjv0hhsearhupt67v5klfphdhib7m5v38@4ax.com:
Yeah, fucktard it is. But COMMON COURTESY dictates that YOU,
motherfucker stop interloping into a thread if all you are going to do
is your inane neverending piss and moan non-point(s).
So as he said, shithead... start a new thread, you fucking putz!
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On 15/02/22 14:07, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
I think that is what the psychologists term \"projection\".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
> Face it: most people let their emotions whiplash their thinking.
I think that is what the psychologists term \"projection\".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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But you sure are one rude jackass.
news:mbjv0hhsearhupt67v5klfphdhib7m5v38@4ax.com:
But you sure are one rude jackass.
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On 15/02/2022 15:07, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I don\'t see people calling reasonable suggestions stupid and ignorant in
this thread. I see people calling stupid and ignorant suggestions
stupid and ignorant.
(Perhaps that\'s because I have filtered out some of the most unpleasant
characters in this group, or perhaps they are not interested in threads
like this one.)
I don\'t believe that anyone here is a trained biologist. That does not
mean there isn\'t a range of levels of knowledge, with many here being
interested amateurs with a fair grasp of a lot of the points in
question. (And much of the contention is about basic scientific
principles, rather than the specifics of the topic being discussed.)
I don\'t think that is true. But some people certainly post without
letting rational thought get much involved, especially in subjects they
know little about.
Curiosity is a good thing, and I think many here read or learn about a
wide range of subjects. You are not outstanding in that regard by any
means. But for a guy who claims to read a lot about evolution, you have
failed to grasp the critical foundations.
You might be better finding something that covers basic scientific
principles - something that will help you understand the need for
evidence, consistency, rational justification, predictions, testability,
falsification, etc., in science. Maybe then you\'ll see why people laugh
at you when you make stuff up out of thin air.
You have had /countless/ explanations and help, with advice,
corrections, references, and facts. But you respond to these by whining
that we don\'t like \"ideas\", or are not \"designers\". You could take the
biology threads in this group over the years and edit it into a book
about evolution - and pretty much all of it has been written to try to
help /you/ understand.
I don\'t see people calling reasonable suggestions stupid and ignorant in
this thread. I see people calling stupid and ignorant suggestions
stupid and ignorant.
(Perhaps that\'s because I have filtered out some of the most unpleasant
characters in this group, or perhaps they are not interested in threads
like this one.)
I don\'t believe that anyone here is a trained biologist. That does not
mean there isn\'t a range of levels of knowledge, with many here being
interested amateurs with a fair grasp of a lot of the points in
question. (And much of the contention is about basic scientific
principles, rather than the specifics of the topic being discussed.)
I don\'t think that is true. But some people certainly post without
letting rational thought get much involved, especially in subjects they
know little about.
Curiosity is a good thing, and I think many here read or learn about a
wide range of subjects. You are not outstanding in that regard by any
means. But for a guy who claims to read a lot about evolution, you have
failed to grasp the critical foundations.
You might be better finding something that covers basic scientific
principles - something that will help you understand the need for
evidence, consistency, rational justification, predictions, testability,
falsification, etc., in science. Maybe then you\'ll see why people laugh
at you when you make stuff up out of thin air.
You have had /countless/ explanations and help, with advice,
corrections, references, and facts. But you respond to these by whining
that we don\'t like \"ideas\", or are not \"designers\". You could take the
biology threads in this group over the years and edit it into a book
about evolution - and pretty much all of it has been written to try to
help /you/ understand.