[OT]: Hey! MICRO$~1 got something right!

[Rich Grise]

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Have you figured out how to turn off the warning?

 

[Genome]

"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote in message
news:1PednYVPMup7UCXd4p2dnA@speakeasy.net...
|
| Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...
| >
| >So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it
goes
| >to the web page, I get this popup:
| >
| >"Microsoft Internet Explorer"
| >
| >[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running
ActiveX
| >controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display
correctly."
| > [ OK ]
| >
| >What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security
hole by
| >turning off ActiveX.
|
| Have you figured out how to turn off the warning?
|

Simple, turn on Active X controls....... DUH

DNA

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
<null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

There mistake was likely to make it in the first place.
JP

 

[The Real Andy]

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.
There mistake was likely to make it in the first place.
JP

Apparently XPsp2 is being shipped with all that stuff disabled by
default, and the firewall enabled by default.

 

[Activ8]

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

Is there even a way to run ActiveX on Linux? Other than WinE, that
is.

There mistake was likely to make it in the first place.
JP

--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Rich Grise]

"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote in message
news:1PednYVPMup7UCXd4p2dnA@speakeasy.net...

Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running
ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole
by
turning off ActiveX.

Have you figured out how to turn off the warning?

I didn't even know I _could_.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote...

Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running
ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole
by
turning off ActiveX.

Have you figured out how to turn off the warning?

I didn't even know I _could_.

AFAICT you can't. You can turn off Javascript and keep browsing, seeing
whatever a non-javascript users sees, but dare to turn off ActiveX and
the microsoft nazis make you click on an error message every time.

I spend most of my time in Linux, and this is one reason why.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
<reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

Is there even a way to run ActiveX on Linux? Other than WinE, that
is.
Hi, Active 8, as for Active X (hehe) I am no real expert on what it can and

cannot do.
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
So, anyways, so I cannot comment on this.
I use Xforms GUI library for may projects, and all controls and stuff are
easily programmed as interactive as you want, and one could do that remote
too.
MS is selling hot air (as usual) and hopefully one day people will see their
soft is just limited cleverly designed to force you to buy the update or next version,
deliberately made incompatible to isolate you (customer binding), deliberately
made very insecure by opening ports so they and the NSA can get all data from you.
Now opening ports has backfired a bit it seems.
So you updated to Xp (again that silly attack on XFree86), and for the money
you got a less secure system then you has with MS win 98.
Man what a deal.
The next release of MS OS may well be called MSWINTUX, so the poor soul
looking for Linux wil wind up with the MS windows crap...
Marketing.

 

[martin griffith]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in Sci.Electroncs.Dilbert:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:
snip
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
Hi Jan

Been meaning to try linux out, but only got as far as Knoppix distro,
quite nice, runs from CD, but what i did get turned onto was Mozilla
and it has replaced IE from microsoft




martin

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 30 May 2004 19:21:50 +0200) it happened martin griffith
<martingriffith@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
<hs5kb0946k6preb892bpsb4hdvh6ds5tc2@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in Sci.Electroncs.Dilbert:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:
snip
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
Hi Jan
Been meaning to try linux out, but only got as far as Knoppix distro,
quite nice, runs from CD, but what i did get turned onto was Mozilla
and it has replaced IE from microsoft
Good

JP

 

[Activ8]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

Is there even a way to run ActiveX on Linux? Other than WinE, that
is.
Hi, Active 8, as for Active X (hehe) I am no real expert on what it can and
cannot do.
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
So, anyways, so I cannot comment on this.
I use Xforms GUI library for may projects, and all controls and stuff are
easily programmed as interactive as you want, and one could do that remote
too.
MS is selling hot air (as usual) and hopefully one day people will see their
soft is just limited cleverly designed to force you to buy the update or next version,
deliberately made incompatible to isolate you (customer binding), deliberately
made very insecure by opening ports so they and the NSA can get all data from you.
Now opening ports has backfired a bit it seems.
So you updated to Xp (again that silly attack on XFree86), and for the money
you got a less secure system then you has with MS win 98.
Man what a deal.
The next release of MS OS may well be called MSWINTUX, so the poor soul
looking for Linux wil wind up with the MS windows crap...
Marketing.

Well, ActiveX derived from OLE then COM/DCOM and it *is* really just
another marketing term. The Unice equive is CORBA - common object
request broker architechture.

If WinE handles ActiveX reliably, cool. ActiveX objects also run in
MSIE. So there's another prob for Linux compat. For Netscrape, you
used to be able to get a plugin that ran ActiveX controls in NS, but
NCompass Labs was bought out by, you guessed it...
Microfuckingshaft! Just google on NCompass Labs and go to the home
page if you want to get sick.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 30 May 2004 15:23:36 -0400) it happened Activ8
<reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <14nzb7d4grzhl.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

Is there even a way to run ActiveX on Linux? Other than WinE, that
is.
Hi, Active 8, as for Active X (hehe) I am no real expert on what it can and
cannot do.
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
So, anyways, so I cannot comment on this.
I use Xforms GUI library for may projects, and all controls and stuff are
easily programmed as interactive as you want, and one could do that remote
too.
MS is selling hot air (as usual) and hopefully one day people will see their
soft is just limited cleverly designed to force you to buy the update or next version,
deliberately made incompatible to isolate you (customer binding), deliberately
made very insecure by opening ports so they and the NSA can get all data from you.
Now opening ports has backfired a bit it seems.
So you updated to Xp (again that silly attack on XFree86), and for the money
you got a less secure system then you has with MS win 98.
Man what a deal.
The next release of MS OS may well be called MSWINTUX, so the poor soul
looking for Linux wil wind up with the MS windows crap...
Marketing.

Well, ActiveX derived from OLE then COM/DCOM and it *is* really just
another marketing term. The Unice equive is CORBA - common object
request broker architechture.

If WinE handles ActiveX reliably, cool. ActiveX objects also run in
MSIE. So there's another prob for Linux compat. For Netscrape, you
used to be able to get a plugin that ran ActiveX controls in NS, but
NCompass Labs was bought out by, you guessed it...
Microfuckingshaft! Just google on NCompass Labs and go to the home
page if you want to get sick.
Yes, just tried that, and it is true that these guys who started with perl

now have moved to MS database and they mention Visual Basic too.
So back to basic(s)
Strange already 10 years ago I had ingress, postgress database in Linux
working, not to mention msql now.
There is php.
So, and VB well I tried that, even have a hundreds of pages thick (THICK)
book on how to use it... dunno how secure that is though.
And it does not even run in Linux so what good it it.
It now seems Oracle is having sex with MS too these days...
Well, some of those Oracle guys still use vi as an editor, so they will
be impressed with MS word perhaps....
I really do not know.
I DO know that you do not need all that for a commercial site.
I expect a good commercial site to look nice, be fast, and not cover what
I want to read with popups.
Today I watched an other 'automated' web page, and looked at the source
(machine generated) because I HAD to to read the text it was partly covered
by pictures...
One big long line... paragraphed.
I write html with a text editor.
And the sites come out OK in exploder and netscape...
No hope for MS really, no.

 

[Activ8]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 20:37:01 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 30 May 2004 15:23:36 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <14nzb7d4grzhl.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 21:25:02 -0400) it happened Activ8
reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <1vouvwax5cryv.dlg@news.individual.net>:

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:26:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 29 May 2004 17:40:55 GMT) it happened "Rich Grise"
null@example.net> wrote in <HW3uc.7496$oh7.4790@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>:

So, I'm browsing the web, and click on a google result, and when it goes
to the web page, I get this popup:

"Microsoft Internet Explorer"

[exclamation icon] "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX
controls on this page. As a result, the page may not display correctly."
[ OK ]

What they did _right_ is give me the ability to close that security hole by
turning off ActiveX.

Cheers!
Rich
I run Linux and Active X is turned off by nature.

Is there even a way to run ActiveX on Linux? Other than WinE, that
is.
Hi, Active 8, as for Active X (hehe) I am no real expert on what it can and
cannot do.
Maybe it was just a silly marketing attempt to refer to Linux X (Xwindows,
oh boy MS does not want you to use the word 'windows', they even are suing the
lindows project! SO, we better say: THE ONLY REAL WINDOWS SYSTEM ON EARTH
Xfree86.
So, anyways, so I cannot comment on this.
I use Xforms GUI library for may projects, and all controls and stuff are
easily programmed as interactive as you want, and one could do that remote
too.
MS is selling hot air (as usual) and hopefully one day people will see their
soft is just limited cleverly designed to force you to buy the update or next version,
deliberately made incompatible to isolate you (customer binding), deliberately
made very insecure by opening ports so they and the NSA can get all data from you.
Now opening ports has backfired a bit it seems.
So you updated to Xp (again that silly attack on XFree86), and for the money
you got a less secure system then you has with MS win 98.
Man what a deal.
The next release of MS OS may well be called MSWINTUX, so the poor soul
looking for Linux wil wind up with the MS windows crap...
Marketing.

Well, ActiveX derived from OLE then COM/DCOM and it *is* really just
another marketing term. The Unice equive is CORBA - common object
request broker architechture.

If WinE handles ActiveX reliably, cool. ActiveX objects also run in
MSIE. So there's another prob for Linux compat. For Netscrape, you
used to be able to get a plugin that ran ActiveX controls in NS, but
NCompass Labs was bought out by, you guessed it...
Microfuckingshaft! Just google on NCompass Labs and go to the home
page if you want to get sick.
Yes, just tried that, and it is true that these guys who started with perl
now have moved to MS database and they mention Visual Basic too.
So back to basic(s)
Strange already 10 years ago I had ingress, postgress database in Linux
working, not to mention msql now.
There is php.

Maybe you have some info on this prob. I went looking for info on
getting PHP, MySQL, and SSL running on Apache. I had trouble
compiling it all from sources a couple years ago.

So a googling I went...

I found out that MySQL went through numerous incarnations and the
chronography isn't clear nor is the best solution apparent. We've
got SAP, MySQL 5, MySQL++, and MaxDB, with MyODBC and ODBC4SAP as
well as a plethora of other stuff to go with it.

All I want (hah!) is the same stuff I can do with MS SQL Server,
i.e., Views, stored procs, triggers, and foreign keys (?) to keep me
from deleting an entry keyed to something that could get left
dangling. Did I leave anything out SQL wise? I wan't SSL for https,
that and PHP has to be compiled in to the options for Apache, ets.
ODBC would be nice in case I want to access something non Linux.

I'm trying to get my ducks in a row for this and got some of the
downloads. Ever do anything like this?

So, and VB well I tried that, even have a hundreds of pages thick (THICK)
book on how to use it... dunno how secure that is though.
And it does not even run in Linux so what good it it.
It now seems Oracle is having sex with MS too these days...
Well, some of those Oracle guys still use vi as an editor, so they will
be impressed with MS word perhaps....
I really do not know.
I DO know that you do not need all that for a commercial site.
I expect a good commercial site to look nice, be fast, and not cover what
I want to read with popups.
Today I watched an other 'automated' web page, and looked at the source
(machine generated) because I HAD to to read the text it was partly covered
by pictures...

Sheesh

One big long line... paragraphed.
I write html with a text editor.
And the sites come out OK in exploder and netscape...
No hope for MS really, no.

--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 30 May 2004 21:28:04 -0400) it happened Activ8
<reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in <iw3r9gkoki2f$.dlg@news.individual.net>:

Maybe you have some info on this prob. I went looking for info on
getting PHP, MySQL, and SSL running on Apache. I had trouble
compiling it all from sources a couple years ago.

So a googling I went...

I found out that MySQL went through numerous incarnations and the
chronography isn't clear nor is the best solution apparent. We've
got SAP, MySQL 5, MySQL++, and MaxDB, with MyODBC and ODBC4SAP as
well as a plethora of other stuff to go with it.

All I want (hah!) is the same stuff I can do with MS SQL Server,
i.e., Views, stored procs, triggers, and foreign keys (?) to keep me
from deleting an entry keyed to something that could get left
dangling. Did I leave anything out SQL wise? I wan't SSL for https,
that and PHP has to be compiled in to the options for Apache, ets.
ODBC would be nice in case I want to access something non Linux.

I'm trying to get my ducks in a row for this and got some of the
downloads. Ever do anything like this?
Only for experiment.

I upgraded php a while back:
Trying to open a socket to "ip51cf87c4.direct-adsl.nl" port 80 (HTTP) ...
SUCCES: port 80 opened up succesfully

HEADERS Received:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:15:17 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) (SuSE/Linux) PHP/5.0.0RC1
Last-Modified: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:26:14 GMT
ETag: "a713d-697-40a0c666"

This because I wanted some authorization stuff for some support pages.
But in the end I did it with .htaccess in Apache.
Since I am running no databse atm, I cannot really be a lot of help
to you on this, but I am sure in the Linux newsgroups there are some good
experts.
I was into codecs lately, now experimenting with vp6 and later,
this is the codec that is used in the new (blue laser) China EVD disks.
Finally got 1280x1024 progressive vp6 coding - decoding working see also
http://www.on2.com/vp6.php3
and my postings in this weekend in rec.video.desktop.
So, you should ask an expert for the database stuff
JP