OT? Germany Shutting Down Nuke Plants...

[Dean Hoffman]

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
<https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/>
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 11:19:01 PM UTC+10, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Mark Rutte has been prime minster of the Netherlands since 2010 and is still prime minister.

There\'s a problem with nitrogen pollution of the ground water by livestock farmers. It is worse in the Netherlands than pretty much anywhere else.

https://www.energymonitor.ai/policy/the-dutch-nitrogen-crisis-shows-what-happens-when-policymakers-fail-to-step-up/

The only solution is less livestock, and the farmers don\'t like that idea. The farmers may have managed to get rid of an agriculture minister, but I didn\'t get to hear about it if they did. There\'s nothing holier than thou about setting limits on groundwater pollution. The farmers clearly don\'t like it, but when the next-door pig farm generates enough ammonia to rot the copper guttering on your roof, their preferences tend to get over-ridden.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote in
<beb22edc-1f93-4938-81aa-f12ef141d1b6n@googlegroups.com>:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It
would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.
And Merkel was played (she likely is a CIA agent) by the US as the US does not want Germany to enrich uranium for a bomb..
So she used Fuckupshima to play the masses..

I have said it many times: DIVERSITY.
We are going to need all the power generation methods we have.
But same green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I think
there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?
So WW3, a new generation with zero technical knowledge..

OTOH once everything radiates AND if humming beans survive..
After the Roman empire fell it took hundreds of years before technology even picked up again.
Solution: all green idiots to re-education camps.

Fear mongering (for CO2 emissions) sells, so some companies selling snake oil solutions
like heat pumps and other crap will support and keep the fairy tales alive to distort the kid\'s brains..

Democrazy
Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe
in a few thousand years we can start over again
after they dig up the statute of gibberish and all them smartphones
and wonder \'How did they ever make those?\'
Like they now wonder about the pyramids.....
It is predictable in a way.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 2:12:56 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote in
beb22edc-1f93-4938...@googlegroups.com>:
Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct..
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It
would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.
Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.

Not as brain dead as the suckers who believe climate change denial propaganda seem to imagine.

> And Merkel was played (she likely is a CIA agent) by the US as the US does not want Germany to enrich uranium for a bomb..

Merkel was - and still is - a whole lot smarter than any US politician. Jan Panteltje isn\'t.

> So she used Fukushima to play the masses..

She didn\'t have to. the message was clear enough to anybody brighter than Jan Panteltje.

> I have said it many times: DIVERSITY.

You do say a lot of stupid things.

> We are going to need all the power generation methods we have.

No. We are going to need to be able to generate enough power. Investing in expensive power sources really isn\'t a good idea.

> But some green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I think.

Only an idiot would want to do that. Dumping a lot less new CO2 into the atmosphere by then would be very good idea, even if Jan Panteltje is too dumb to understand why.

> there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?

Hydrogen burns in air to produce water, which is a greenhouse gas, but not one that hangs about in the atmosphere for about 800 years. Three weeks is less of problem

> So WW3, a new generation with zero technical knowledge..

Jan Panteltje doesn\'t have as much technological knowledge as he needs, otherwise he wouldn\'t be such a gullible sucker for climate change denial propaganda

OTOH once everything radiates AND if humming beans survive..

After the Roman empire fell it took hundreds of years before technology even picked up again.

Technology was fine. Large scale social organisation wasn\'t.

> Solution: all green idiots to re-education camps.

Sending Jan Panteltje to an education camp wouldn\'t work. He thinks he knows it all already

> Fear mongering (for CO2 emissions) sells, so some companies selling snake oil solutions like heat pumps and other crap will support and keep the fairy tales alive to distort the kid\'s brains.

Jan knows exactly how he wants kids brains distorted, so they end up just as silly as he is, and equally willing to believe climate change denial propaganda.

Democrazy, Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Problem is that clowns like Jan imagine that they are technical experts.

> Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe in a few thousand years we can start over again.

The human race has lived through the transition from an ice age to an interglacial. Our close predecessors lived through the transition from the previous interglacial to the most recent ice age.

We\'ve had enough anthropogenic global warming to make a new ice age a pretty distant prospect.

Jan and his idiot mates are choosing quite the wrong strategy right now. They will probably die off faster if they succeed in wrecking our environment, but we can\'t rely on that to cull their defective genes from the gene pool.

> after they dig up the statute of gibberish and all them smartphones and wonder \'How did they ever make those?\'

Jan can generate gibberish without any effort at all. Smart phones aren\'t in the least smart if you can\'t recharge them.

> Like they now wonder about the pyramids.....

Nobody wonders about the pyramids. They were designed to look impressive, and they did that job very well.

> It is predictable in a way.

Or so Jan imagines.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote in
beb22edc-1f93-4938-81aa-f12ef141d1b6n@googlegroups.com>:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It
would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.
And Merkel was played (she likely is a CIA agent) by the US as the US does not want Germany to enrich uranium for a bomb..
So she used Fuckupshima to play the masses..

I have said it many times: DIVERSITY.
We are going to need all the power generation methods we have.
But same green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I think
there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?
So WW3, a new generation with zero technical knowledge..

OTOH once everything radiates AND if humming beans survive..
After the Roman empire fell it took hundreds of years before technology even picked up again.
Solution: all green idiots to re-education camps.

Fear mongering (for CO2 emissions) sells, so some companies selling snake oil solutions
like heat pumps and other crap will support and keep the fairy tales alive to distort the kid\'s brains..

Democrazy
Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Maybe not. Engineers and scientists are driven by ambition for power
and money too.

The best thing to do is let lots of enterprises compete and see what
works.

The best government is minimal government.

Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe
in a few thousand years we can start over again

Some countries will freeze some fraction of their population. Other
countries will do fine.

Germany seems to be trying to de-industrialize, and maybe de-populate.

Buy a Japanese car next.

 

[Liz Tuddenham]

Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

[...]

But same green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I
think there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?

They haven\'t realised that burnining hydrogen efficiently will generate
more NOX than diesel engines.

Our local council has created a \"Clean Air Zone\" with legislation to
reduce NOX by making heavy charges for any fuel-injected engine. This
mean that the more efficient the engine is, the more it is penalised.

At first they were only going to apply it to diesels, but there was such
an outcry that they did a last-minute change and exempted diesel cars,
but not vans or lorries. This had the effect of shutting down many
small shops in the city centre who relied on diesel vans for their
supplies and deliveries. The effect then spread to the suburbs when
distribution companies received fines for not paying the charges (which
have never been displayed on any of the signs) because their vans had
crossed the zone to get to customers on the other side.

Now the peripheral roads are full of vans and heavy lorries doing a
15-mile detour to avoid the zone. If the Council had wanted to increase
CO2 production, they could hardly have found a better way.

....But wait! They have found a better way. They are offering loans to
business to allow them to scrap perfectly good vehicles and buy more
modern ones (which are currently exempt but not guaranteed to stay so).
They have also said the current list of exempt vehicles will be revised
in about 2 years time. By then the revenue will be falling and the cost
of maintaining the cameras will be increasing, so they will either have
to extend the zone or apply it to more types of vehicle. As soon as
they start on domestic cars there will be one hell of a backlash.


Oh, I forgot to say: all the Council\'s own ancient diesel vehicles are
exempt.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the \".invalid\"s and add \".co.uk\" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:01:04 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
<umll3ihdv5k46hu61ol0a08kae485uum8m@4ax.com>:

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote in
beb22edc-1f93-4938-81aa-f12ef141d1b6n@googlegroups.com>:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It
would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.
And Merkel was played (she likely is a CIA agent) by the US as the US does not want Germany to enrich uranium for a bomb..
So she used Fuckupshima to play the masses..

I have said it many times: DIVERSITY.
We are going to need all the power generation methods we have.
But same green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I think
there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?
So WW3, a new generation with zero technical knowledge..

OTOH once everything radiates AND if humming beans survive..
After the Roman empire fell it took hundreds of years before technology even picked up again.
Solution: all green idiots to re-education camps.

Fear mongering (for CO2 emissions) sells, so some companies selling snake oil solutions
like heat pumps and other crap will support and keep the fairy tales alive to distort the kid\'s brains..

Democrazy
Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Maybe not. Engineers and scientists are driven by ambition for power
and money too.

The best thing to do is let lots of enterprises compete and see what
works.

The best government is minimal government.


Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe
in a few thousand years we can start over again

Some countries will freeze some fraction of their population. Other
countries will do fine.

Germany seems to be trying to de-industrialize, and maybe de-populate.

Buy a Japanese car next.

Yea, well I had a Japanese car for some years, very nice actually.
What we see now in Germany and also over here in the Netherlands is mass migration (or should say import) of people from
say Africa and countries where there are wars.
Blacks wanting apologies for slavery times of their ancestors while now coming here out of free will?
Should they have stayed in the mess where they were?
All mass hysteria, mass IQ dropping, indeed if your ancestors were goat herders there IS an IQ difference.
Lots of what we learn was passed on in genetics and in early childhood from parents and societies we lived in.
So, and when those low IQ become more and grab political power (demon-crazy dictates that) and make their own laws,
then it is back to the way of life they did flee from.
Fear of nuclear power, now the Ukrainian refugees here (there are thousands here now and more coming every day)
complain about the free food we give them!!!
What a world upside down! A beggar complaining about the food and shelter you give him!!!
I say: close all borders, no more import unless qualified education and speaking the language.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:01:14 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote in <beb22edc-1f93-4938...@googlegroups.com>:

<snip>

Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Maybe not. Engineers and scientists are driven by ambition for power and money too.

The best thing to do is let lots of enterprises compete and see what works.

Under supervision, to make sure that they don\'t cheat. The US has had anti-trust laws for more than a century, but Johm Larkin hasn\'t notoced

> The best government is minimal government.

Depends on the quality of the government. The US principle seems to be that the people who own the country should run the country for their own advantage, which tends to be a bit short-sighted.

Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe in a few thousand years we can start over again.

Some countries will freeze some fraction of their population.

Probably not. Anthropogenic global warming is making this increasingly unlikely

> Other countries will do fine.

Probably not. Anthropogenic global warming affects the whole planet.

> Germany seems to be trying to de-industrialize, and maybe de-populate.

I wonder why John Larkin thinks that. They export pretty much as much as the US with a third of the population.

The US is off-shoring most of it\'s industrial production to China and other places where labor is even cheaper. Germany concentrated on making its labour more productive

> Buy a Japanese car next.

They are also pretty good at getting more production out of the work force they have.

The US life expectancy has been falling for five years now.

https://www.worlddata.info/life-expectancy.php

Japan stands fairly high in that list 81.6 years for males, 87.7 for females. Germany is a good way down 78.6 and 83.4 years. The US is at 74.5 and 80..2 years.

Clearly the US isn\'t spending much on keeping its work force alive.

--
Bill Sloman., Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:33:26 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:01:04 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jjla...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in <umll3ihdv5k46hu61...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote in <beb22edc-1f93-4938...@googlegroups.com>:

All mass hysteria, mass IQ dropping, indeed if your ancestors were goat herders there IS an IQ difference.

Goats are smart. Cows aren\'t. Jan\'s ancestors herded cows. He isn\'t very bright.

> Lots of what we learn was passed on in genetics and in early childhood from parents and societies we lived in.

Knowledge isn\'t passed on it the genes,

> So, and when those low IQ become more and grab political power (demon-crazy dictates that) and make their own laws, then it is back to the way of life they did flee from.

None of them seems to have grabbed political power anywhere in Europe. The Dutch have their own home grown lunatic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

> Fear of nuclear power, now the Ukrainian refugees here (there are thousands here now and more coming every day) complain about the free food we give them!!!

You can get good food in the Netherlands, but it take an effort. Dutch and German cuisine is unimpressive.

> What a world upside down! A beggar complaining about the food and shelter you give him!!!

They are refugees rather than beggars. The Ukranian refugees are educated and willing to work - they seem to fit in fine in Australia

> I say: close all borders, no more import unless qualified education and speaking the language.

Bizarre. Who wants to learn Dutch? I did, but my colleagues discourage me from writing in Dutch - everybody can read English including the Russian graduate students and the overseas agents. Nijmegen University lecturers mostly lectured in English - they had enough foreign students that it made more sense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<423987af-e925-403b-9e37-3ab6ef3266cfn@googlegroups.com>:

>Knowledge isn\'t passed on it the genes,

Of course it is, that is why some animals can walk right after been born,
some even grow out of eggs and know how find their own food from the beginning
You are just an ignorant babbler.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 7:07:03 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
423987af-e925-403b...@googlegroups.com>:
Knowledge isn\'t passed on it the genes,
Of course it is, that is why some animals can walk right after been born,
some even grow out of eggs and know how find their own food from the beginning.

Habits are passed on in the genes. That isn\'t knowledge. It\'s just patterns of movement,

> You are just an ignorant babbler.

The ignorant babbler here is you.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/

An interesting coincidence, last night when the last nuclear reactors
were closed down in Germany, the same night in Finland the 1600 MW OL3
EPR reactor was finally commissioned. Unfortunately it was 14 years
behind schedule :-(

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-04-15 18:12, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote in
beb22edc-1f93-4938-81aa-f12ef141d1b6n@googlegroups.com>:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers.
It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.

Notice that the Germans did vote them. This government and those before.
The move to close the nuclear plants was a popular demand, which started
after the Fukushima disaster. Just happens that finally doing what was
planned years ago comes at difficult times.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Apr 2023 02:55:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<fe1cc0ca-3507-4893-93b8-d3dff401fc13n@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 7:07:03 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote=
:
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthon=
y
William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
423987af-e925-403b...@googlegroups.com>:
Knowledge isn\'t passed on it the genes,
Of course it is, that is why some animals can walk right after been born,=

some even grow out of eggs and know how find their own food from the begi=
nning.

Habits are passed on in the genes. That isn\'t knowledge. It\'s just patterns=
of movement,

Probably no use trying to modify the script embedded in your grey? matter...
But where do you think \'movement\' is stored?

From worm to butterfly, to flying to sucking honey from the right flowers...
Behavior orientation.
So many examples in nature, HOW do you think that evolved?
evolution.
Long before silly papers on ieee.org
No schools for those lifeforms.
Often not even parents around to teach or show.
Its all neural patterns passed on..
And neural patterns is all that our brain has, example in your ever reading the same babble.
...does not know ...

Seems fixed, but the chemistry for learning seems to lack in your case.
Learn to LOOK at - and from reality, observation.
Stop babbling your ROM crap.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:43:56 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Apr 2023 02:55:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in<fe1cc0ca-3507-4893...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 7:07:03 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote=
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in 423987afe925-403b...@googlegroups.com>:

Knowledge isn\'t passed on it the genes,

Of course it is, that is why some animals can walk right after been born,= some even grow out of eggs and know how find their own food from the beginning.

Habits are passed on in the genes. That isn\'t knowledge. It\'s just patterns of movement,

Probably no use trying to modify the script embedded in your grey? matter....

Since you are trying to corrupt useful knowledge with fatuous delusions, you aren\'t likely succeed. People who know what they are talking about can manage it,
but you don\'t have anything useful to offer.

> But where do you think \'movement\' is stored?

Peripheral nerves. It\'s not easy to change. Have you ever trued to learn a new way of walking?

From worm to butterfly, to flying to sucking honey from the right flowers....
Behavior orientation.
So many examples in nature, HOW do you think that evolved?

evolution.

Long before silly papers on ieee.org

Silly papers get criticised. I\'ve done it - mostly in the Review of Scientific Instruments, though there was one in an IEEE journal

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/75183

Knowledge can be corrected. Habits are harder to chance.
Evolution is a horribly wasteful system, and slow. Your silly ideas haven\'t got you killed yet, which is about the only way twits like you find out that they have got stuff wrong. It\'s also known as winning a Darwin Award.

> No schools for those lifeforms.

Sure there is. Do it right, or starve.

Often not even parents around to teach or show.

Its all neural patterns passed on..

But not explicit knowledge that can be spelled out and corrected.

> And neural patterns is all that our brain has, example in your ever reading the same babble.

There are a lot of different neural patterns.

..does not know ...

Seems fixed, but the chemistry for learning seems to lack in your case.

You do like to think so, because I can recognise and reject your nonsense as the half-baked twaddle that it is.

> Learn to LOOK at - and from reality, observation.

Been there, done that. You don\'t seem to have got that far.

> Stop babbling your ROM crap.

And listen to yours? You need to get a better ROM first.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 05:33:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:01:04 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
umll3ihdv5k46hu61ol0a08kae485uum8m@4ax.com>:

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote in
beb22edc-1f93-4938-81aa-f12ef141d1b6n@googlegroups.com>:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It
would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Been following it on TV: Bild and ARD and ZDF etc..
They say the majority of Germans is against closing these nuclear power plants.
I think they are trying to get enough votes for a referendum?

But the world is infested by brain dead green idiots these days.
And Merkel was played (she likely is a CIA agent) by the US as the US does not want Germany to enrich uranium for a bomb..
So she used Fuckupshima to play the masses..

I have said it many times: DIVERSITY.
We are going to need all the power generation methods we have.
But same green idiots want to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 I think
there is now an exception for hydrogen ones or something?
So WW3, a new generation with zero technical knowledge..

OTOH once everything radiates AND if humming beans survive..
After the Roman empire fell it took hundreds of years before technology even picked up again.
Solution: all green idiots to re-education camps.

Fear mongering (for CO2 emissions) sells, so some companies selling snake oil solutions
like heat pumps and other crap will support and keep the fairy tales alive to distort the kid\'s brains..

Democrazy
Would not a technical experts based regime be better?

Maybe not. Engineers and scientists are driven by ambition for power
and money too.

The best thing to do is let lots of enterprises compete and see what
works.

The best government is minimal government.


Well if all freeze to death or whatever because they did chose the wrong strategies.. then maybe
in a few thousand years we can start over again

Some countries will freeze some fraction of their population. Other
countries will do fine.

Germany seems to be trying to de-industrialize, and maybe de-populate.

Buy a Japanese car next.

Yea, well I had a Japanese car for some years, very nice actually.
What we see now in Germany and also over here in the Netherlands is mass migration (or should say import) of people from
say Africa and countries where there are wars.
Blacks wanting apologies for slavery times of their ancestors while now coming here out of free will?
Should they have stayed in the mess where they were?
All mass hysteria, mass IQ dropping, indeed if your ancestors were goat herders there IS an IQ difference.
Lots of what we learn was passed on in genetics and in early childhood from parents and societies we lived in.
So, and when those low IQ become more and grab political power (demon-crazy dictates that) and make their own laws,
then it is back to the way of life they did flee from.
Fear of nuclear power, now the Ukrainian refugees here (there are thousands here now and more coming every day)
complain about the free food we give them!!!
What a world upside down! A beggar complaining about the food and shelter you give him!!!
I say: close all borders, no more import unless qualified education and speaking the language.

Expect another wave of migration to the USA and maybe Australia. I\'m
here because my Irish and German ancestors came to the USA to escape
poverty.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:19:01 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.

Those plants were all end of life, and the government decided it wasn\'t worth the trouble and expense of trying to extend their operations. Everything they do in Germany is well calculated, it\'s not the U.S. Let the Germans run Germany.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:47:27 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 05:33:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:01:04 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jjla...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in <umll3ihdv5k46hu61...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:12:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote in <beb22edc-1f93-4938...@googlegroups.com>:

<snip>

> Expect another wave of migration to the USA and maybe Australia. I\'m here because my Irish and German ancestors came to the USA to escape poverty.

Most of the Irish left Ireland to escape starvation due to the potato famine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)

It wasn\'t poverty, but an epidemic of potato blight. Being poor enough that you starve if your main crop fails is poverty, but that didn\'t motivate migration on it own.
It took actual starvation to get people moving in large numbers. Your German ancestors may have been more enterprising, but I wouldn\'t bet on it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

søndag den 16. april 2023 kl. 17.44.56 UTC+2 skrev Fred Bloggs:

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:19:01 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct..
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.
Those plants were all end of life, and the government decided it wasn\'t worth the trouble and expense of trying to extend their operations. Everything they do in Germany is well calculated, it\'s not the U.S. Let the Germans run Germany.

the old plants were shutdown a long time ago, the plants that are shutting down now were build to run for a decade more.
But since the shutdown was decided everything checks, maintenance, personnel, parts, fuel have been planned for the end date,
so now it is too late, it could take 1-2 years to get them back up an running at full power

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 12:42:43 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

søndag den 16. april 2023 kl. 17.44.56 UTC+2 skrev Fred Bloggs:
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 9:19:01 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Politicians aren\'t listening to constituents if this article is correct.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/14/germany-shut-down-last-nuclear-plants-amid-warnings-new-energy-crisis/
Dutch politicians got their butts kicked out of office when they did their holier than thou thing regarding farmers. It would be a good thing if it happened in a lot of other places.
Those plants were all end of life, and the government decided it wasn\'t worth the trouble and expense of trying to extend their operations. Everything they do in Germany is well calculated, it\'s not the U.S. Let the Germans run Germany.
the old plants were shutdown a long time ago, the plants that are shutting down now were build to run for a decade more.
But since the shutdown was decided everything checks, maintenance, personnel, parts, fuel have been planned for the end date,
so now it is too late, it could take 1-2 years to get them back up an running at full power

They\'re just carrying out an agreement reached in 2011. The three plants are a very small fraction of Germany\'s energy use, it won\'t be the end of the world.

Typical German politics, Bavaria wants to take over operation of their closed plant:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bavaria-mulls-reopening-nuclear-plant-under-state-control/a-65336730