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Jim Thompson · Jun 12, 2005

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Joerg · Jun 12, 2005

Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jim Thompson · Jun 12, 2005

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:06:20 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

I suspect that's a typo... didn't Gore invent the Internet ?

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John Stewart · Jun 13, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:06:20 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

I suspect that's a typo... didn't Gore invent the Internet ?

I thought it was A. Hitler. He had spies everywhere, reporting back
(forward too).

JLS

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Clifford Heath · Jun 13, 2005

Joerg wrote:

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."
Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

HTTP and Mosaic was invented then. Obviously they wouldn't
have been any use without an Internet to connect them to...

Paul Hovnanian · Jun 13, 2005

Clifford Heath wrote:

Joerg wrote:
They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."
Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

HTTP and Mosaic was invented then. Obviously they wouldn't
have been any use without an Internet to connect them to...

Hmm. The abstract for RFC 1945 says, "HTTP has been in use by the
World-Wide Web global information initiative since 1990".

Of course, once the USPTO grants Microsoft a patent for it, that date
will have to be revised.

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Ian · Jun 13, 2005

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Perhaps MIT would like to check with Tim Berners-Lee or CERN.

Regards
Ian

Clint Sharp · Jun 13, 2005

In message <Md3re.278$NU5.179@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes

Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...
http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."
Time Berners Lee? CERN? 1989?

I hope they're making a joke...

http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/#Bio

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

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John Hudak · Jun 13, 2005

Hmmmmm inventing the web in 1994 huh..( I love these English majors spin
on reality)..Might want to check with my alma mater Carnegie Mellon
University - Computer Science dept...They didn't 'invent' the web, but
had a noticable hand in its developement. I was using the ARPA net in
1976, basis of www, and our research group did benchmarking and
refinements to TCP/IP under a number of DARPA contracts, UC Berkely also
had their hands in it..making it work with their various enhancements to
Unix V6 and V7... but oh well...we were also upstaged by Al Gore...lol
John

Jim Thompson wrote:

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

...Jim Thompson

Joerg · Jun 13, 2005

Hello Jim,

I suspect that's a typo... didn't Gore invent the Internet ?

ROFL!

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Jun 13, 2005

Hello Clint,

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Time Berners Lee? CERN? 1989?

I hope they're making a joke...

It was much before that. IIRC we had Compuserve even back then. Maybe
another service but it had its own web and then you could "jump" onto
the Internet from there and they charged a per minute fee. A pretty
steep fee, compared to today. IE or Netscape hadn't been conceived yet.
The nice thing was that most web space was strictly ASCII. That made
finding a flight and later even booking it so much easier than today.
Remember the old Sabre?

AFAIK it was a few Californian guys that wanted to be able to see the
surf yet work, or something like that. So they concocted what was to
become Arpanet, then the web. That was a lot longer ago.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su · Jun 14, 2005

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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Hello Clint,

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Time Berners Lee? CERN? 1989?

I hope they're making a joke...

It was much before that. IIRC we had Compuserve even back then. Maybe
another service but it had its own web and then you could "jump" onto
the Internet from there and they charged a per minute fee. A pretty
steep fee, compared to today. IE or Netscape hadn't been conceived
yet.
The nice thing was that most web space was strictly ASCII.

It wasn't web space. That's where you're confusing things. It was net
space, but _not_ web space. Web space came later with the invention of
HTTP.

That made
finding a flight and later even booking it so much easier than today.
Remember the old Sabre?

I had to wire our SABRE lab for the "high speed" 9600 bps modem. Served
all 20 plus workstations.

This wkend I was reading the Project Whirlwind and SAGE story in "The
Invention That Changed The World" by Rob't Buderi, and he said SABRE was
developed on the concepts and hardware that SAGE used to connect the
various SAGE sites thru phone lines.

I had a 'free' account on Sprint, and as long as I received only, it
didn't cost anything. They tried to get me to send something so they
could bill for the outrageous dollars an hour charges. But I never did
have to pay anything.

AFAIK it was a few Californian guys that wanted to be able to see the
surf yet work, or something like that. So they concocted what was to
become Arpanet, then the web. That was a lot longer ago.

No, it was ARPANet, the the _Internet_. The _web_ was later when HTTP
became standard.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Jun 14, 2005

Hello Watson,

The nice thing was that most web space was strictly ASCII.

It wasn't web space. That's where you're confusing things. It was net
space, but _not_ web space. Web space came later with the invention of
HTTP.

Oops, yes. I was too young in them days for that kind of stuff.

That made
finding a flight and later even booking it so much easier than today.
Remember the old Sabre?

I had to wire our SABRE lab for the "high speed" 9600 bps modem. Served
all 20 plus workstations.

I meant the Sabre travel site (or net space...). Nice, simple and clean.
Most of all, a lot faster than the sites today because it was strictly
ASCII and no graphics whatsoever. Later they became loaded with glitz
and fancy graphics interfaces and then I started calling the airline
again to figure out itineraries and book my trips. Turned out their
people were using the same site, except that they still could access the
ASCII version.

AFAIK it was a few Californian guys that wanted to be able to see the
surf yet work, or something like that. So they concocted what was to
become Arpanet, then the web. That was a lot longer ago.

No, it was ARPANet, the the _Internet_. The _web_ was later when HTTP
became standard.

Yes, it wasn't HTTP yet in those days. But it worked in a similar
fashion, at least from a user's point of view.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Mac · Jun 15, 2005

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:03:44 -0400, John Hudak wrote:

Hmmmmm inventing the web in 1994 huh..( I love these English majors spin
on reality)..Might want to check with my alma mater Carnegie Mellon
University - Computer Science dept...They didn't 'invent' the web, but
had a noticable hand in its developement. I was using the ARPA net in
1976, basis of www, and our research group did benchmarking and
refinements to TCP/IP under a number of DARPA contracts, UC Berkely also
had their hands in it..making it work with their various enhancements to
Unix V6 and V7...

The web is MUCH newer than the Internet. I don't remember hearing much (or
anything) about the WWW in 91 and 92. I was sort of out of the loop in '93
and '94. But by '95 or so, it seemed to me that everybody had some idea of
what the web is, although my non-technical friends thought the web and the
Internet were the same thing. Since I had been using the Internet
regularly since '85, I found it amusing that they thought the Internet was
a new thing.

but oh well...we were also upstaged by Al Gore...lol
John

Gore really got a bum wrap on that whole "invented the Internet" thing.

Here is a URL that tells the full story:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Jim Thompson wrote:

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

...Jim Thompson

Mac · Jun 15, 2005

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:33:13 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:06:20 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

OT: Fun article about my alma mater...

http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-05/features/mit-nerds/

They claim "The World Wide Web was born at MIT in 1994."

Hmmm... I was on the web before that ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

I suspect that's a typo... didn't Gore invent the Internet ?

The full story on Gore:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

--Mac

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