OT: Fox News vs. Fallujah

Rich The Philosophizer · Nov 8, 2004

So, I was looking for some kind of morning news besides the assault
on Fallujah, and surfed to Fox news, where they were saying, "Troops
are massing in a staging area..."

NBC, CBS, and ABC had stuff like live video of soldiers going into
buildings and stuff.

It made me think of a little gag song:

"Deck the halls with $INSERT_GAG_HERE,
Fa-la-la-la-laaaa, la-la-lu-jah!"

Cheers!
Rich

Rolavine · Nov 8, 2004

Insurgents have left, we are killing the civilians. They are fighting a
Guerrillia war with us they are too smart to stay and die. Every civilian we
kill grows a new insurgent.

Fox News = Rupert Murdock News. What is good for Murdock is the truth.

Rocky

Rich The Philosophizer · Nov 8, 2004

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:46:58 +0000, Rolavine wrote:

Insurgents have left, we are killing the civilians. They are fighting a
Guerrillia war with us they are too smart to stay and die. Every civilian we
kill grows a new insurgent.

I wonder what the US rulers think they're accomplishing. Does anyone know
if they've ever said, "We're going into Fallujah becuase _________", other
than, "To clean out the insurgents"?

If there wasn't any invasion, there wouldn't be any insurgents, because
there would be nothing to insurge against.

Kinda sad.
Rich

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Nov 8, 2004

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:46:58 +0000, Rolavine wrote:

Insurgents have left, we are killing the civilians. They are fighting a
Guerrillia war with us they are too smart to stay and die. Every civilian we
kill grows a new insurgent.

I wonder what the US rulers think they're accomplishing. Does anyone know
if they've ever said, "We're going into Fallujah becuase _________", other
than, "To clean out the insurgents"?

If there wasn't any invasion, there wouldn't be any insurgents, because
there would be nothing to insurge against.

It would make more sense just seal Fallujah to stop everything, inc food and
water, going in and starve everyone out. Pay the 200,000 inhabitants to leave.
$10,000 each would be $2billion - piss all compared to what's being spend already.
Might also really boost the Iraqi economy.

See how well and how long the insurgents 'insurge' when they are in any empty
city with no food. Leave them there.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
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Terry Given · Nov 8, 2004

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:46:58 +0000, Rolavine wrote:

Insurgents have left, we are killing the civilians. They are fighting a
Guerrillia war with us they are too smart to stay and die. Every
civilian we
kill grows a new insurgent.

I wonder what the US rulers think they're accomplishing. Does anyone know
if they've ever said, "We're going into Fallujah becuase _________",
other
than, "To clean out the insurgents"?

If there wasn't any invasion, there wouldn't be any insurgents, because
there would be nothing to insurge against.

It would make more sense just seal Fallujah to stop everything, inc food
and water, going in and starve everyone out. Pay the 200,000 inhabitants
to leave.
$10,000 each would be $2billion - piss all compared to what's being
spend already.
Might also really boost the Iraqi economy.

See how well and how long the insurgents 'insurge' when they are in any
empty city with no food. Leave them there.

They arent letting ANY men of fighting age (16-45) leave AT ALL.

Cheers
Terry

Paul Burridge · Nov 8, 2004

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:37:09 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
<dirk@neopax.com> wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

They arent letting ANY men of fighting age (16-45) leave AT ALL.

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that it is because they are
all going to be killed by the US - so better take this gun and fight back...

Sorry, but I'm confused. What suddenly occurs at the age of 45 that
prevents a man using a gun?
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

Paul Burridge · Nov 8, 2004

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:35:43 +0000, Mike Page
<mike@SCRUBeclectic-CAPSweb.BLAMEco.SWENuk> wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

So, I was looking for some kind of morning news besides the assault
on Fallujah, and surfed to Fox news, where they were saying, "Troops
are massing in a staging area..."

NBC, CBS, and ABC had stuff like live video of soldiers going into
buildings and stuff.

It made me think of a little gag song:

"Deck the halls with $INSERT_GAG_HERE,
Fa-la-la-la-laaaa, la-la-lu-jah!"

Cheers!
Rich

Try News 24 (BBC). It's all about a (no less tragic) train crash right now.

Big deal; what was it? 7 killed? If you're into *proper* train
crashes, check out India.

--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

Jim Thompson · Nov 9, 2004

On 8 Nov 2004 16:53:46 -0800, jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<70dvo0th5vko7mt4jljolt15doi8f9knf5@4ax.com>...
[snip]

Here, in Phoenix, on Cox Cable, Fox News has been showing shelling and
building-to-building fighting for several hours.

...Jim Thompson

It's called time shifting. CIPD "Cannabis Induced Propagation Delay".

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Ken Smith · Nov 9, 2004

In article <2vaaomF2i4badU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Dirk Bruere at Neopax <dirk@neopax.com> wrote:
[...]

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that it is because they are
all going to be killed by the US - so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are also shooting back.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

Clarence · Nov 9, 2004

"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
news:cmqrg9$n86$1@blue.rahul.net...

In article <2vaaomF2i4badU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Dirk Bruere at Neopax <dirk@neopax.com> wrote:
[...]
And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that it is because they
are
all going to be killed by the US - so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are also shooting back.

So much for the claims of "Innocent" women and Children being killed!

Winfield Hill · Nov 9, 2004

Clarence wrote...

Ken Smith wrote ...
Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
[...]
And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that
it is because they are all going to be killed by the US
- so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are
also shooting back.

So much for the claims of "Innocent" women and Children
being killed!

Sounds like Vietnam - they really don't want us there.

Iraq's official Sunni Muslim political party has quit the
US-backed government in protest over the assault on Falluja.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1239655.htm

--
Thanks,
- Win

Rich The Philosophizer · Nov 10, 2004

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:59:23 -0800, Winfield Hill wrote:

Clarence wrote...

Ken Smith wrote ...
Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
[...]
And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that
it is because they are all going to be killed by the US
- so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are
also shooting back.

So much for the claims of "Innocent" women and Children
being killed!

Sounds like Vietnam - they really don't want us there.

Iraq's official Sunni Muslim political party has quit the
US-backed government in protest over the assault on Falluja.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1239655.htm

Well, I hope when somebody out there decides to put a stop to
it, they have the common decency to minimize _their_ collateral
damage.

Thanks,
Rich

Fred Bloggs · Nov 10, 2004

Winfield Hill wrote:

Clarence wrote...

Ken Smith wrote ...

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
[...]

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that
it is because they are all going to be killed by the US
- so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are
also shooting back.

So much for the claims of "Innocent" women and Children
being killed!

Sounds like Vietnam - they really don't want us there.

Iraq's official Sunni Muslim political party has quit the
US-backed government in protest over the assault on Falluja.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1239655.htm

The Association of Muslim Clerics warned all Iraqi security to back off
the attack, and apparently quite a large number did just that- about
half. This is a turning point in the war in that all authority figures
in Iraqi society from secular sheiks, tribal leaders, politicians, and
clerics have declared that assisting the US military is treason against
their own people. Of course this explains why they show no outrage
against the massive number of Iraqi National Guard and Police
slaughtered by the insurgency. Looks like someone needs to get a clue-
the insurgency is the whole country.

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Nov 10, 2004

Paul Burridge wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:37:09 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
dirk@neopax.com> wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

They arent letting ANY men of fighting age (16-45) leave AT ALL.

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that it is because they are
all going to be killed by the US - so better take this gun and fight back...

Sorry, but I'm confused. What suddenly occurs at the age of 45 that
prevents a man using a gun?

In my case, nothing.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Nov 8, 2004

Terry Given wrote:

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:46:58 +0000, Rolavine wrote:

Insurgents have left, we are killing the civilians. They are fighting a
Guerrillia war with us they are too smart to stay and die. Every
civilian we
kill grows a new insurgent.

I wonder what the US rulers think they're accomplishing. Does anyone
know
if they've ever said, "We're going into Fallujah becuase _________",
other
than, "To clean out the insurgents"?

If there wasn't any invasion, there wouldn't be any insurgents, because
there would be nothing to insurge against.

It would make more sense just seal Fallujah to stop everything, inc
food and water, going in and starve everyone out. Pay the 200,000
inhabitants to leave.
$10,000 each would be $2billion - piss all compared to what's being
spend already.
Might also really boost the Iraqi economy.

See how well and how long the insurgents 'insurge' when they are in
any empty city with no food. Leave them there.

They arent letting ANY men of fighting age (16-45) leave AT ALL.

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that it is because they are
all going to be killed by the US - so better take this gun and fight back...

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Nov 10, 2004

Fred Bloggs wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:

Clarence wrote...

Ken Smith wrote ...

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
[...]

And no doubt the insurgents are explaining to them that
it is because they are all going to be killed by the US
- so better take this gun and fight back...

According to one radio report, women and children are
also shooting back.

So much for the claims of "Innocent" women and Children
being killed!

Sounds like Vietnam - they really don't want us there.

Iraq's official Sunni Muslim political party has quit the
US-backed government in protest over the assault on Falluja.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1239655.htm

The Association of Muslim Clerics warned all Iraqi security to back off
the attack, and apparently quite a large number did just that- about
half. This is a turning point in the war in that all authority figures
in Iraqi society from secular sheiks, tribal leaders, politicians, and
clerics have declared that assisting the US military is treason against
their own people. Of course this explains why they show no outrage
against the massive number of Iraqi National Guard and Police
slaughtered by the insurgency. Looks like someone needs to get a clue-
the insurgency is the whole country.

New M4 assault rifles - never fired, only dropped once.
An oldy but goody...

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

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