*OT* Dragnet Episode

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Duh_OZ

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Deals with repair service scams.

As 'bait, the used a Kaye-Halbert 16'' TV and shorted out 5u4g tube.
Estimated house visit and replacement of a 5u4g tube: $4.50.

http://www.archive.org/download/dragnet/Dragnet-Big_Screen.mp3
 
As bait, they used a Kaye-Halbert 16'' TV and shorted 5U4G.
Estimated house visit and tube replacement: $4.50.
The viewing quality... priceless.

I'm old enough to remember when a GP charged /five dollars/ for a house
call. Five dollars was a lot of money then (ca 1955).
 
I'm listening, and unfortunately (???), Stan Freberg permanently ruined
"Dragnet".
 
Just wondering whether that new brand of rosin-core solder ever took off...

Was there really a Kaye-Halbert TV? I assume that's one of the names changed
to protect the innocent.

I wonder if all those green dots the guy applied improved the picture and/or
sound quality...
 
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:34:32 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

Just wondering whether that new brand of rosin-core solder ever took off...

Was there really a Kaye-Halbert TV? I assume that's one of the names changed
to protect the innocent.

I wonder if all those green dots the guy applied improved the picture and/or
sound quality...

Yes, there was. Don't you ever do any research?

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-KAYE-HALBERT.htm

PlainBill
 
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:21:02 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

As bait, they used a Kaye-Halbert 16'' TV and shorted 5U4G.
Estimated house visit and tube replacement: $4.50.

The viewing quality... priceless.

I'm old enough to remember when a GP charged /five dollars/ for a house
call. Five dollars was a lot of money then (ca 1955).

I'd place the show as somewhat earlier - probably 1952 or 53. $100
would be a good month's pay at that time.

PlainBill
 
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:26:14 -0700, PlainBill47@yawho.com wrote:

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:21:02 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

As bait, they used a Kaye-Halbert 16'' TV and shorted 5U4G.
Estimated house visit and tube replacement: $4.50.

The viewing quality... priceless.

I'm old enough to remember when a GP charged /five dollars/ for a house
call. Five dollars was a lot of money then (ca 1955).

I'd place the show as somewhat earlier - probably 1952 or 53. $100
would be a good month's pay at that time.

PlainBill
Not really off topic. What one charges for repair service is
relevent.

Using an inflation calculator at:
<http://www.westegg.com/inflation/>
I find that $5 in 1952 is worth $41 in 2009. Not even close to what I
would charge for this type of service call today.

The best I can do for a field service call, to replace a single
component, is about $125 today. However, much of this added overhead
isn't from inflation. It's from increased tax burden, increased
overhead, insurance requirements, anticipated warranty funding,
inventory depreciation charges, and supporting my decadent and lavish
lifestyle.

Even the 5U4 has lost much of its value. Only $5.75 today:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260690412075>

As I vaguely recall, my first minimum wage job in the early 1960's was
for about $1/hr.
<http://www.dir.ca.gov/iwc/MinimumWageHistory.htm>
At the time federal minimum wage was about the same. Today, I charge
$75/hr for shop labor. As I vaguely recall, shop labor in the late
1960's (TV/Audio repair) was about $12/hr.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Yes, there was. Don't you ever do any research?
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-KAYE-HALBERT.htm
I do. I did a browser search, and nothing at all showed up.
 
The best I can do for a field service call, to replace a single
component, is about $125 today. However, much of this
added overhead isn't from inflation. It's from increased tax
burden, increased overhead, insurance requirements,
anticipated warranty funding, inventory depreciation charges,
and supporting my decadent and lavish lifestyle.
As Stan Freberg would say... a second dress for your wife.
 
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:35:28 -0800 "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in Message id:
<idm5q7$pu3$1@news.eternal-september.org>:

Yes, there was. Don't you ever do any research?
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-KAYE-HALBERT.htm

I do. I did a browser search, and nothing at all showed up.
Perhaps you should try Google instead of searching your browser?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1306&bih=862&q=Kaye-Halbert&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
 
Who are you, anyway? You don't have the guts to use your own name.
 
"Duh_OZ" wrote in message
news:b4c70d5e-e873-450a-95fc-709c8a1dc25c@p8g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...

Deals with repair service scams.

As 'bait, the used a Kaye-Halbert 16'' TV and shorted out 5u4g tube.
Estimated house visit and replacement of a 5u4g tube: $4.50.

http://www.archive.org/download/dragnet/Dragnet-Big_Screen.mp3


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Here's a Sam's for one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PhotoFact-Manual-KAYE-HALBERT-014-024-044-146-/360171633416?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item53dbe6fb08

And a video from someone that owns one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfkrkSgtOvw
 
And a video from someone that owns one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfkrkSgtOvw
What other obscure brands of television am I ignorant of (he asked, with
more than a touch of sarcasm)?

I should have realized the name was legit, when one of the characters
started bragging about his Leica IIIf, the penultimate of the Leica
screw-thread cameras.
 
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 02:46:39 -0800 "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in Message id:
<idnnm4$eit$1@news.eternal-september.org>:

Who are you, anyway? You don't have the guts to use your own name.
I'm assuming you're talking to me, but you didn't quote me. They're my
real initials. But since when was using one's name a requirement for
posting to Usenet?

In any case, lighten up - I was only teasing you a bit.
 
I should have realized the name was legit, when one
of the characters started bragging about his Leica IIIf,
the penultimate of the Leica screw-thread cameras.

The ultimate being a Canon 7S with f0.95 lens?
No, the Leica IIIg. Not that I wouldn't mind having one.
 
Who are you, anyway? You don't have the guts to use your own name.

I'm assuming you're talking to me, but you didn't quote me. They're my
real initials. But since when was using one's name a requirement for
posting to Usenet?

In any case, lighten up - I was only teasing you a bit.
I don't at all mind being teased, but your remarks seemed rather blunt. I
have been -- and sometimes still am -- guilty of such things, myself.
 
William Sommerwerck wrote:
I should have realized the name was legit, when one of the characters
started bragging about his Leica IIIf, the penultimate of the Leica
screw-thread cameras.
The ultimate being a Canon 7s with f0.95 lens?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.
 
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:51:33 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

I should have realized the name was legit, when one
of the characters started bragging about his Leica IIIf,
the penultimate of the Leica screw-thread cameras.

The ultimate being a Canon 7S with f0.95 lens?

No, the Leica IIIg. Not that I wouldn't mind having one.
I had a Leica IIIc, with almost all the accessories, lenses, and
enlarger many years ago. Nobody builds cameras like that any more. I
did some side by side comparisons with a common SLR of the time (Asahi
Pentax Spotmatic). The picture quality difference was really obvious.
I replaced the focal plane shutter, mirrors, and rebuilt the
self-timer several times. Unfortunately, I sold everything in the
late 1980's for peanuts. Sniff...

<http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?lang=3>
$500,000 for a Leica MP2. $200,000 ea for some others.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:00:45 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

And a video from someone that owns one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfkrkSgtOvw

What other obscure brands of television am I ignorant of (he asked, with
more than a touch of sarcasm)?

I don't know. Why don't you list the ones you DO remember, then go
here http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-ALL-USA.htm to fill in the
blanks? FYI: They list 104 TV manufacturers for the years 1950-1959,
running from A (Admiral) to Z (Zenith).

I should have realized the name was legit, when one of the characters
started bragging about his Leica IIIf, the penultimate of the Leica
screw-thread cameras.
PlainBill
 
I don't know. Why don't you list the ones you DO remember, then go
here http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-ALL-USA.htm to fill in the
blanks? FYI: They list 104 TV manufacturers for the years 1950-1959,
running from A (Admiral) to Z (Zenith).
Thanks for the ref. At least 20% of the names were unfamiliar.

The most-interesting was "Natalie Kalmus", the woman whose name appears as
"Technicolor consultant" on pre-1950 films. She was the once-wife of Herbert
Kalmus, the principal developer of Technicolor.
 

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