OT: Dr Stone(Head), mother of 2019 nCov?

In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

In public, a great scientific break-thru.
In private, a perfect bio WMD.

After great criticism from the scientific community, her program
was terminated (or moved underground). But nobody know what
happened to the research materials and animals. Some were
adopted as pets. Some were breed and sold to meat market.
Some were raised in the lab for further work.

Immediately after the outbreak in late 2019. The WuHan P4 lab
identified the 2019 nCov gene sequence in record time and suggested
HIV antiviral drugs for treatment.

Some drugs targeting HIV and Ebola are partially effective against
some cases. Unfortunately, with huge human hosting environment and
multi (4+) generation mutations. 2019 nCov will be with us for
some time.

Official estimate is now 20,000. But many carriers are unable
to win the lottery of this group. So, as much as 10x more
are send home to join their family. Another 20x might be carriers
without symptoms.

So, we will reach millions in no time.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 2:41:40 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

You don't "inject" gene coding into a virus. You edit it's genome to include a base sequence from some other virus.

Whatever deluded fantasist concocted this sentence advertised their hopeless ignorance in remarkably few words.

Edward is too dumb to have noticed.

<snipped the rest of the twaddle>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:11:23 AM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 2:41:40 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

You don't "inject" gene coding into a virus. You edit it's genome to include a base sequence from some other virus.

Whatever deluded fantasist concocted this sentence advertised their hopeless ignorance in remarkably few words.

Thank you. You have the exact right words. I am not a generic engineer. The end result is exactly what you said. She edited the base sequence from SARS to build ACE2 receptors.

> Edward is too dumb to have noticed.

Yes, i need some of your gene.

Go read about her work in 2015. Don't just pick on my wordings.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 9:14:53 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:11:23 AM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 2:41:40 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

You don't "inject" gene coding into a virus. You edit it's genome to include a base sequence from some other virus.

Whatever deluded fantasist concocted this sentence advertised their hopeless ignorance in remarkably few words.

Thank you. You have the exact right words.

Probably not.

> I am not a generic engineer.

You clearly aren't a genetic engineer or a molecular biologist, but then neither am I.

> The end result is exactly what you said. She edited the base sequence from SARS to build ACE2 receptors.

Probably not. SARS and other corona viruses all have human ACE2 receptors to lock onto the human cells they attack

Edward is too dumb to have noticed.

Yes, I need some of your gene.

It doesn't genius to detect when somebody doesn't know what they are talking about.

> Go read about her work in 2015. Don't just pick on my wordings.

A link to the paper you think you are talking about would make that easier.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00190-6

is more recent - 24th January 2020 - and talks about work that some demented conspiracy theory might have misunderstood to be malign.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Go read about her work in 2015. Don't just pick on my wordings.

A link to the paper you think you are talking about would make that easier.

No, read the science journey in 2015. Blame the US Gov for the "Gain in Function" research push. Dr StoneHead is not the only one working on these either.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00190-6

is more recent - 24th January 2020 - and talks about work that some demented conspiracy theory might have misunderstood to be malign.

He worry about the market being too small. He should be happy to see that the 2019-nCov infection is now 3 times that of SARS. My sources are saying that less than 1 in 10 seeking help is getting into the official database.

And
50 millions in 3 cities are in quarantine.
Most electronics and auto supply chains are shutting down.

Good news is that they are using less oil and coat, so the air is cleaner.
Bad news is that live stocks are starving to death, because nobody is transporting the chicken feed.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 5:32:03 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

Go read about her work in 2015. Don't just pick on my wordings.

A link to the paper you think you are talking about would make that easier.

No, read the science journey in 2015.

What science journal? Where? Post a link.

Blame the US Gov for the "Gain in Function" research push. Dr StoneHead is not the only one working on these either.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00190-6

is more recent - 24th January 2020 - and talks about work that some demented conspiracy theory might have misunderstood to be malign.

He worry about the market being too small. He should be happy to see that the 2019-nCov infection is now 3 times that of SARS. My sources are saying that less than 1 in 10 seeking help is getting into the official database.

Your sources seem to be just as demented as you are.

> And 50 millions in 3 cities are in quarantine.

China has a population of 1.386 billion. But there are only two cities with populations of more than 16 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_population

Admittedly Wuhan, which is locked down, is listed at 8.3 million while I found a estimate of 11 million when I looked for it directly. This does seem like a dubious statistic.

Most electronics and auto supply chains are shutting down.

Good news is that they are using less oil and coal, so the air is cleaner.
Bad news is that live stocks are starving to death, because nobody is transporting the chicken feed.

Seems unlikely.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

He worry about the market being too small. He should be happy to see that the 2019-nCov infection is now 3 times that of SARS. My sources are saying that less than 1 in 10 seeking help is getting into the official database.

Your sources seem to be just as demented as you are.

And 50 millions in 3 cities are in quarantine.

China has a population of 1.386 billion. But there are only two cities with populations of more than 16 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_population

Admittedly Wuhan, which is locked down, is listed at 8.3 million while I found a estimate of 11 million when I looked for it directly. This does seem like a dubious statistic.

Most electronics and auto supply chains are shutting down.

Good news is that they are using less oil and coal, so the air is cleaner.
Bad news is that live stocks are starving to death, because nobody is transporting the chicken feed.

Seems unlikely.

Check the news again. 30+ cities (hundred millions) are starting quarantine. Office number of 27k (because that's what they can handle in hospitals). Unofficial estimate id 1/4 to 1/2 million infection now.

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

In public, a great scientific break-thru.
In private, a perfect bio WMD.

After great criticism from the scientific community, her program
was terminated (or moved underground). But nobody know what
happened to the research materials and animals. Some were
adopted as pets. Some were breed and sold to meat market.
Some were raised in the lab for further work.

Immediately after the outbreak in late 2019. The WuHan P4 lab
identified the 2019 nCov gene sequence in record time and suggested
HIV antiviral drugs for treatment.

Some drugs targeting HIV and Ebola are partially effective against
some cases. Unfortunately, with huge human hosting environment and
multi (4+) generation mutations. 2019 nCov will be with us for
some time.

Official estimate is now 20,000. But many carriers are unable
to win the lottery of this group. So, as much as 10x more
are send home to join their family. Another 20x might be carriers
without symptoms.

So, we will reach millions in no time.

I don't disagree that the nCoV may well be a dangerous virus, but I can't find anything to support your claims of it being an engineered virus. In particular, it seems the virus family already has the gene for targeting the ACE2 receptor on cells.

https://massivesci.com/notes/2019-ncov-coronavirus-mers-sars-huanan-wuhan-china-who/

"This suggests that like the SARS-CoV, the 2019-nCoV may use the same receptor (called ACE2) to enter cells"

I think you don't really know anything about this, so let me give you some useful info. A virus typically attacks a cell by having genes that produce proteins to attach to the host cell at locations of a specific receptor. This receptor then is part of the process of injecting the viral RNA (or very uncommonly DNA) into the host cell. At that point the host cell machinery using the viral nucleic acid to produce viral proteins and ultimately new viruses complete with the viral genes.

Since the SARS virus from 17 years ago already had the gene for recognizing the ACE2 receptor, there was no need for anyone to add the genes needed to recognize that receptor.

If you provide your source for this information I would be happy to debunk it for you. I suspect it is full of scientific errors and mostly is made up crap with just enough name dropping and pseudo science to make it believable to those with little knowledge in the field.

My experience is limited to a sophomore class in microbiology and a couple of classes in biochemistry and this seems pretty clearly to be pure hog wash to me.

--

Rick C.

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On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 9:39:14 PM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

In public, a great scientific break-thru.
In private, a perfect bio WMD.

After great criticism from the scientific community, her program
was terminated (or moved underground). But nobody know what
happened to the research materials and animals. Some were
adopted as pets. Some were breed and sold to meat market.
Some were raised in the lab for further work.

Immediately after the outbreak in late 2019. The WuHan P4 lab
identified the 2019 nCov gene sequence in record time and suggested
HIV antiviral drugs for treatment.

Some drugs targeting HIV and Ebola are partially effective against
some cases. Unfortunately, with huge human hosting environment and
multi (4+) generation mutations. 2019 nCov will be with us for
some time.

Official estimate is now 20,000. But many carriers are unable
to win the lottery of this group. So, as much as 10x more
are send home to join their family. Another 20x might be carriers
without symptoms.

So, we will reach millions in no time.

I don't disagree that the nCoV may well be a dangerous virus, but I can't find anything to support your claims of it being an engineered virus. In particular, it seems the virus family already has the gene for targeting the ACE2 receptor on cells.

https://massivesci.com/notes/2019-ncov-coronavirus-mers-sars-huanan-wuhan-china-who/

"This suggests that like the SARS-CoV, the 2019-nCoV may use the same receptor (called ACE2) to enter cells"

I think you don't really know anything about this, so let me give you some useful info. A virus typically attacks a cell by having genes that produce proteins to attach to the host cell at locations of a specific receptor. This receptor then is part of the process of injecting the viral RNA (or very uncommonly DNA) into the host cell. At that point the host cell machinery using the viral nucleic acid to produce viral proteins and ultimately new viruses complete with the viral genes.

Since the SARS virus from 17 years ago already had the gene for recognizing the ACE2 receptor, there was no need for anyone to add the genes needed to recognize that receptor.

If you provide your source for this information I would be happy to debunk it for you. I suspect it is full of scientific errors and mostly is made up crap with just enough name dropping and pseudo science to make it believable to those with little knowledge in the field.

My experience is limited to a sophomore class in microbiology and a couple of classes in biochemistry and this seems pretty clearly to be pure hog wash to me.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 12:42:28 AM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 9:39:14 PM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2015, Dr Stone was studying CovonaVirus in bats and rats,
She felt that the virus was too dumb; so, she decided to give it
a helping hand. She injected the ACE2 gen coding into the virus,
and a star was born.

In public, a great scientific break-thru.
In private, a perfect bio WMD.

After great criticism from the scientific community, her program
was terminated (or moved underground). But nobody know what
happened to the research materials and animals. Some were
adopted as pets. Some were breed and sold to meat market.
Some were raised in the lab for further work.

Immediately after the outbreak in late 2019. The WuHan P4 lab
identified the 2019 nCov gene sequence in record time and suggested
HIV antiviral drugs for treatment.

Some drugs targeting HIV and Ebola are partially effective against
some cases. Unfortunately, with huge human hosting environment and
multi (4+) generation mutations. 2019 nCov will be with us for
some time.

Official estimate is now 20,000. But many carriers are unable
to win the lottery of this group. So, as much as 10x more
are send home to join their family. Another 20x might be carriers
without symptoms.

So, we will reach millions in no time.

I don't disagree that the nCoV may well be a dangerous virus, but I can't find anything to support your claims of it being an engineered virus. In particular, it seems the virus family already has the gene for targeting the ACE2 receptor on cells.

https://massivesci.com/notes/2019-ncov-coronavirus-mers-sars-huanan-wuhan-china-who/

"This suggests that like the SARS-CoV, the 2019-nCoV may use the same receptor (called ACE2) to enter cells"

I think you don't really know anything about this, so let me give you some useful info. A virus typically attacks a cell by having genes that produce proteins to attach to the host cell at locations of a specific receptor. This receptor then is part of the process of injecting the viral RNA (or very uncommonly DNA) into the host cell. At that point the host cell machinery using the viral nucleic acid to produce viral proteins and ultimately new viruses complete with the viral genes.

Since the SARS virus from 17 years ago already had the gene for recognizing the ACE2 receptor, there was no need for anyone to add the genes needed to recognize that receptor.

If you provide your source for this information I would be happy to debunk it for you. I suspect it is full of scientific errors and mostly is made up crap with just enough name dropping and pseudo science to make it believable to those with little knowledge in the field.

My experience is limited to a sophomore class in microbiology and a couple of classes in biochemistry and this seems pretty clearly to be pure hog wash to me.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

Yup, pure hog wash. Read my comments in your other thread. This article is just too stupid to read and comment on again. That would cost me IQ points I'm sure.

--

Rick C.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 3:53:29 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

He worry about the market being too small. He should be happy to see that the 2019-nCov infection is now 3 times that of SARS. My sources are saying that less than 1 in 10 seeking help is getting into the official database.

Your sources seem to be just as demented as you are.

And 50 millions in 3 cities are in quarantine.

China has a population of 1.386 billion. But there are only two cities with populations of more than 16 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_population

Admittedly Wuhan, which is locked down, is listed at 8.3 million while I found a estimate of 11 million when I looked for it directly. This does seem like a dubious statistic.

Most electronics and auto supply chains are shutting down.

Good news is that they are using less oil and coal, so the air is cleaner.
Bad news is that live stocks are starving to death, because nobody is transporting the chicken feed.

Seems unlikely.

Check the news again. 30+ cities (hundred millions) are starting quarantine. Office number of 27k (because that's what they can handle in hospitals). Unofficial estimate id 1/4 to 1/2 million infection now.

Alarmist nonsense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney