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Sylvia Else

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My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle
that anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were
worn out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the
waste pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the
innards is from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the
motor, press a plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting,
and it can be pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.
 
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
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My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.
Click to expand...
Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?
 
On 3/08/2010 5:10 PM, Noodnik wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8bpk53F3ibU5@mid.individual.net...
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.

Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?
Click to expand...
From the manufacturer's Australian office, amongst others.

There is a legal obligation on manufacturers and importers to make spare
parts available for a 'reasonable period'. They cannot refuse to supply
them to end users.

Well, not yet.

Though I'm sure that there's a regulator somewhere contemplating the
question of whether someone without formal qualification in washing
machine repair is competent to attach a couple of spade connectors,
press a plastic tab, and rotate a motor housing. Self-help is not highly
regarded in Australia these days.

Sylvia.
 
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:56:38 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:

On 3/08/2010 5:10 PM, Noodnik wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8bpk53F3ibU5@mid.individual.net...
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.

Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?



From the manufacturer's Australian office, amongst others.

There is a legal obligation on manufacturers and importers to make spare
parts available for a 'reasonable period'. They cannot refuse to supply
them to end users.

Well, not yet.

Though I'm sure that there's a regulator somewhere contemplating the
question of whether someone without formal qualification in washing
machine repair is competent to attach a couple of spade connectors,
press a plastic tab, and rotate a motor housing. Self-help is not highly
regarded in Australia these days.
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Nanny state thinking, they're trying to help you to not chop an arm
off with that spade terminal. Spades are dangerous. Terminal ones
presumably more so ;)

Grant.
 
On 3/08/2010 2:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle
that anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were
worn out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the
waste pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the
innards is from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the
motor, press a plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting,
and it can be pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.
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Mind you, it's a shame that the old pump now heads for the tip. I
dismantled it out of interest. It was easy to dissassemble and put back
together, and the bearings, which appear to be bronze, could easily have
been replaced. Nothing else is worn.

I must admit, I didn't ask F&P whether I could obtain just the bearings,
but I'd be very surpised if I could.

Sylvia.
 
On 4/08/2010 1:11 PM, terryc wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:10:52 +0800, Noodnik wrote:


Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?

Not uncommon. Many techs are happy if you do the chasing or parts rather
than them.
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Though perhaps less happy if you dispense with their services altogther ;)

Sylvia.
 
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:10:52 +0800, Noodnik wrote:


Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?
Click to expand...
Not uncommon. Many techs are happy if you do the chasing or parts rather
than them.
 
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:33:09 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 4/08/2010 1:11 PM, terryc wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:10:52 +0800, Noodnik wrote:


Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?

Not uncommon. Many techs are happy if you do the chasing or parts
rather than them.


Though perhaps less happy if you dispense with their services altogther
Click to expand...
I pay them for their diagnostic service and thus saving me from complete
or unnecessary replacements.
 
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:31:27 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:

I must admit, I didn't ask F&P whether I could obtain just the bearings,
but I'd be very surpised if I could.
Click to expand...
Go to a bearing shop and receive a surprise.
 
On 4/08/2010 9:58 PM, kreed wrote:
On Aug 3, 6:56 pm, Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
On 3/08/2010 5:10 PM, Noodnik wrote:



"Sylvia Else"<syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8bpk53F3ibU5@mid.individual.net...
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.

Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?

From the manufacturer's Australian office, amongst others.

There is a legal obligation on manufacturers and importers to make spare
parts available for a 'reasonable period'. They cannot refuse to supply
them to end users.

Well, not yet.

Though I'm sure that there's a regulator somewhere contemplating the
question of whether someone without formal qualification in washing
machine repair is competent to attach a couple of spade connectors,
press a plastic tab, and rotate a motor housing. Self-help is not highly
regarded in Australia these days.

Sylvia.

How much was the replacement motor Sylvia ?
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$90 plus $15 for delivery. Cheaper than I expected actually, spare part
pricing being what it is.

They can be had a bit cheaper from other suppliers.

Sylvia.
 
On 4/08/2010 8:46 PM, terryc wrote:
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:31:27 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote:

I must admit, I didn't ask F&P whether I could obtain just the bearings,
but I'd be very surpised if I could.

Go to a bearing shop and receive a surprise.
Click to expand...
Something like this?

http://www.smallparts.com.au/store/item/bsp00500012500100sb/bushesbronzesphericalsintered/

But this one has outside diameter 9mm, inside diameter 5mm, width 7mm.

Sylvia.
 
On Aug 3, 6:56 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
On 3/08/2010 5:10 PM, Noodnik wrote:



"Sylvia Else"<syl...@not.here.invalid>  wrote in message
news:8bpk53F3ibU5@mid.individual.net...
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.

Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?

 From the manufacturer's Australian office, amongst others.

There is a legal obligation on manufacturers and importers to make spare
parts available for a 'reasonable period'. They cannot refuse to supply
them to end users.

Well, not yet.

Though I'm sure that there's a regulator somewhere contemplating the
question of whether someone without formal qualification in washing
machine repair is competent to attach a couple of spade connectors,
press a plastic tab, and rotate a motor housing. Self-help is not highly
regarded in Australia these days.

Sylvia.
Click to expand...
How much was the replacement motor Sylvia ?
 
On Aug 4, 10:47 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
On 4/08/2010 9:58 PM, kreed wrote:



On Aug 3, 6:56 pm, Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid>  wrote:
On 3/08/2010 5:10 PM, Noodnik wrote:

"Sylvia Else"<syl...@not.here.invalid>    wrote in message
news:8bpk53F3ibU5@mid.individual.net...
My F&P washing machine was emitting a noise during its emptying cycle that
anyone here would recognise as meaning that the pump bearings were worn
out.

It turns out that the pump can be replaced without any tools whatsoever:
Unplug from the mains, disconnect the pipes from the taps, pull the waste
pipe out of sink and tip the machine on its side (access to the innards is
from underneath). Pull the two power lead spades off the motor, press a
plastic tab to let the motor/pump rotate in its mounting, and it can be
pulled out. Installing the new one is just the reverse.

I wish all repairs were that simple. Nice one F&P.

Sylvia.

Presumably then you can obtain the parts without being a registered
technician. Where are they available from?

  From the manufacturer's Australian office, amongst others.

There is a legal obligation on manufacturers and importers to make spare
parts available for a 'reasonable period'. They cannot refuse to supply
them to end users.

Well, not yet.

Though I'm sure that there's a regulator somewhere contemplating the
question of whether someone without formal qualification in washing
machine repair is competent to attach a couple of spade connectors,
press a plastic tab, and rotate a motor housing. Self-help is not highly
regarded in Australia these days.

Sylvia.

How much was the replacement motor Sylvia ?

$90 plus $15 for delivery. Cheaper than I expected actually, spare part
pricing being what it is.

They can be had a bit cheaper from other suppliers.

Sylvia.
Click to expand...
That isnt too bad. I replaced one on my machine about 10 years back
and it was $60 from the local service shop.
 
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